$27.00 an hour with A+ ? I call extreme b.s unless its an IT job in like a major us city, and the cost of living off sets the price
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Also Programming > IT Certs. Fight me.
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02-04-2019, 10:30 PM #31★cVc★ OEFx2
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02-04-2019, 10:34 PM #32
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02-04-2019, 11:57 PM #34
I wish I could land a job with my A+. I've been unemployed for two months. I got my A+ in December and have only gotten a phone interview and a call from a recruiter. Both have ghosted me since. I revised my resume yesterday to see if it would help. Only time will tell.
Meanwhile *******s on reddit are landing entry level/tier 1 help desk gigs with no certs.
"All you need is customer service and people skills hurrrrr"
Then the smug ******* managers wanna chip in...
"Certs aren't worth anything. A+ was a waste of time, and means nothing on a resume hurrrrrr" Then tell that to your chitbag HR team and resume filters.
Then HR chips in.
"Entry level? Deep understanding of Windows server 2012, 2016. 3-5 Years of technical experience. Advanced knowledge and experience with DHCP, DNS, TCP/IP. Bachelors degree in a related field preferred.....
Starting at $12.50 hourly"
Fuk you.
How much "experience" do I NEED for a fukn TIER 1 help desk job? For fuk sakes.
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02-04-2019, 11:57 PM #35
Join us in the IT thread boyo, I work in Cyber Security and just started posting there myself
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02-05-2019, 01:11 AM #36
every job / cert expects to know a whole ton of schit. Studying for the NET+ now and you need to know all sorts of shyt that you will never even encounter on a job, brb need to know about factory automation, brb need to know about cell phones, man, fuk off with that garbage. Thankfully I'm 'grandfathered' with my A+
I used to do IT and I'm just getting back into it (no other choice, I actually fukking HATE IT) and it amazes me how garbage and saturated things areAP5 / PRO-Fap
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02-05-2019, 01:22 AM #39
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There is so much stuff they make you memorize (tons of stupid acronyms for example) that is just pointless. Half the stuff consists of things you would just google if you really needed to know. The Linux+ is a little ridiculous with the command line switches and arguments. And none of it matters if you can't problem solve in real life. Which is what these exams/certs should focus the most on but don't."There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle." -Gym Jones
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02-05-2019, 02:11 AM #40
In the IT field, once you've got a Bachelor's degree, MAYBE a Master's degree as well, all you've really have available to you for showcasing relevant and ongoing skillsets is work experience and certifications. CompTIA is specifically one of those brands that give a well-rounded coverage of fundamentals for their applicable certifications. There are other brands too that are deemed prestigious such as GIAC (though multiple times more expensive). IT is one of those fields where things are constantly evolving, with new technologies, operating systems, languages, etc. as the years go by, you need to show that you are up to date on the latest fundamentals and principles when you're trying to go career shopping. It's not like other professions where once you're done with the education and systems, you're just working until you die and trying to keep out of trouble. IT requires a special kind of mindset where you're willing and excited about learning and progressing year after year after year.
In general there are two types of certifications:
1) Certifications that showcase acquired knowledge of fundamentals and specific principles in the discipline (CompTIA, GIAC, (ISC)2).
2) Certifications that showcase acquired knowledge of specific tools (AWS, Splunk, Microsoft, etc.).
One of the neat things about the IT industry is you're not glued into whatever position you end up getting, and prior knowledge from other related sub-fields always translates into useful intuition for another. You can always hop from sub-field to sub-field if you apply yourself to learning and acquire corresponding certifications.
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02-05-2019, 08:19 AM #46
Makes total sense to me to target your knowledge to what employers want. I think we should have more high schools/educational institutions that cater to specific skill sets rather than give an alll encompasing liberal arts education.
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02-05-2019, 08:36 AM #53
When I say media I mean the different cable types that transmit the data. So, for example, I'll use the chart below, but they want you to memorize all the forms of media that can be used (fiber optics comes to mind, but there are a ton more), as well as the amount of data it can transfer at the most effective lengths.
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02-05-2019, 08:37 AM #54
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It is until you get to a higher level and work on many projects. If you generally like technology it can get pretty interesting. I like running my own business but sometimes I'm curious what it's like to do super high level enterprise stuff. Have a couple friends doing it but it would mean a pay cut.
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02-05-2019, 08:57 AM #56
Ok, gotcha', yeah, for the most part those are easy to remember for the most part, anything copper/commonly used, but then you get into some of the legacy crap and the various flavors of fiber and what kind of connectors they use, speed and their varying distances, God, I hate these people so much. So much junk to remember.
I've had some CHOICE jobs in I.T. before, when I was fresh out of high school I used to work at the CCNP level, I'm not going to say how long ago that was, but let's just say the industry was NOT saturated and you would get paid beau-coup money for picking your nose at one of those jobs. I monitored the network for a small ISP in the north east doing the graveyard shift, it has got to be one of the best jobs I ever had, I rarely ever dealt with anyone that wasn't a network admin/engineer and then I had another job working at HQ for a recruiting company, which had the most laid back management I've ever worked with and I made a lot of dough. That chit is another world though, things have changed drastically. When they decided to consolidate I decided to pursue contacts in the entertainment business and get into that, but the dick head I ended up working with was nothing but a flimflam artist and wasted my time and time is money...so anyway, back to I.T. and I remember jack shyt, although it wouldn't matter anyway since tech moves so quickly.
We also had a NOC when I was doing work monitoring the ISP and I wired most of it and the high level configuration that needed to be done at the time was done by the two **** guys that mentored me during my time there. The high level stuff can be fun, if you consider that high level these days, but when the shyt hits the fan it can be stressful, especially when people are breathing down your neck. You say you run your own business, so I'm guessing you can handle that stuff, I was good at working under pressure, because I simply didn't give a shyt, but that's what made me good in those situations.
edit: I should add, these days I don't give a shyt about technology, I may as well be a Luddite, but it was always easy for me to understand quickly, the problem is I find it so painfully boring that it makes things difficult, if that makes any sense.AP5 / PRO-Fap
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02-05-2019, 09:25 AM #57
OP if you're looking into networking it's a solid field. I got my start by getting a lowly CCENT, which landed me my first interview and from there I changed companies for a huge pay bump. I'm not gonna lie though the only reason I got the interview is because my buddy worked at the first company and vouched for me.
Managers were super relaxed and basically said they try to hire referrals exclusively because the new employee will not want to make their friend look bad so they'll try. It was a NOC support job where we had to get certified in different firewalls and other technologies, like F5.
Advice is find someone who already has a job that you'd like and get some basic stuff, like the CCENT I mentioned or CCNA. That should land you interviews at least and utilize all of the companies resources such as physical or virtual labs, company paid training and company paid certifications to make the move to your next, higher paying job.Lurking since '05 - the days of VS gorilla/cloud/goku threads
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02-05-2019, 10:18 AM #58
A+ is good to get while you're studying for IT in college, outside of entry level positions it's pretty much worthless. If a job has a requirement for it, it's most likely entry level.
Net+ should be skipped, you should go straight to CCENT/CCNA, Cisco is still the top dog in networking, maybe not in the future but definitely for now, most networking equipment and CLI commands are based off Cisco iOS.
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02-05-2019, 10:39 AM #60
Job boards are always full of coding positions. If you can learn to code in a language you see jobs for in your area quite a bit you're set with a middle to upper-middle class job for life if you're a decent employee.
"IT" is a pretty broad blanket and you will want to explore every realm\branch\discipline to figure out what you like the best and what jives with how you like to work. With that said I think it's a little tougher to get into since the requirements are lower for the entry positions.
A helpdesk job is the usual route but those are at best 40k a year jobs and for a career change you may not be able to take that gamble.
Instead learn linux administration or networking. Windows support is full, don't need anyone else.
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