i deadset haven't even thought to go and look at the pic again im too stressed out by it all. feel like just opening the convo on a phone is gonna somehow give me away. so no, no pics, sorry brah.
i really feel like i'm over reacting and stressing myself to death over here, there's just zero chance that she ever finds out i've seen the pic. the office closes over xmas as well, if i can get through the rest of the week then i've gotta be in the clear. i just can't see these two IT guys caring. people remote in all the time, and surely they haven't gone to the bother to set up automated systems to notify them if a user is remoting into a new computer for the first time or if a picture that resembles porn was visible on the screen. ...surely?
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12-19-2018, 03:03 AM #31
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12-19-2018, 03:06 AM #32
This is where you effed up... Even though it should not be open, you had no business of firing up ******** while on company resources, and even then, IF you did and saw her profile, you should have logged out immediately and told her that her FB was still open/auto-logged in. Thats partly her fault, combined with the fact you (might) have used her account to work on, even with her consent, it probably not accepted by your company policy either.. (auditing, log-trails, research if illegal **** happens).
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fk that..
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12-19-2018, 03:11 AM #33
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So OP goofed, wont accept it's his fault and save himself, and plans to hide until it blows over.
Until she finds out, an investigation goes in, they see he knew and didn't report it, and he burns.
Good plan OP.Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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12-19-2018, 03:12 AM #34
yes there's blocked sites, i think it's just certain words and urls that are blocked. i'm unsure if they get a notification that the specific user was trying to access that site or not, maybe i should find out. i guess the biggest flag would be if there was some screenshot thing or some how they could tell that a user deleted history. or if they see me remoting in using a different username. it seems like a pretty intense sort of system to be running for a 2 man IT team in a visual design office. then again, they've gone to the effort to block sites so who knows. i've logged in as another user before and nothing happened, and this exact same thing could have happened on those occasions, so i think i'm just stressing.
the side-thought: is it kept FOREVER? isn't there any sort of encryption or security measures to keep photos that i send from a logged in account away from public eyes? if i just guess the right characters at the end of a link then all of a sudden i'm looking at some nude the president sent to his lover?
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12-19-2018, 03:23 AM #35
no it's good, i needed to hear it, it's definitely a wake up call. even if this pans out alright in a way i feel like something was destined to happen if i didn't get a slap in the face.
and yeah def against company policy, i know if it gets picked up that i'm done. but i had a legitimate reason to log in as her (the records will show i tried to log in as me but couldn't), she has given me her password in the past, and i think the records will again show that pretty quickly after the picture was seen the account was logged out, the computer restarted, and history deleted.
not that they'll believe that. but at worst it's logging in without permission, snooping in a private account that was left open and logged in, and they'll fire me for looking at things i shouldn't have been looking at. tbh i get on well with her and while she'll def feel violated and prob want me sacked, all of the proof will show that nothing else was accessed, no other accounts opened, nothing saved, etc. etc. but i can probably recover from that. not so much criminal charges.
I DIDNT EVEN WANT THERE TO BE NUDES ON THE SCREEN BRAHS I WAS JUST DOING WORK AND GOT DISTRACTED BY ******** ughhh
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12-19-2018, 03:25 AM #36
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You do not understand how civil lawsuits for emotional damage work do you. 'I can't work there anymore, it's been terrible, I'm suing for my mental anguish and loss of pay from not working.'
And you will be roped in to this, every penny she can get (and it will be a lot), she will go for. The company wont help you, they will hang you out on your own and watch you go under.Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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12-19-2018, 03:26 AM #37
report it by saying, hey i was logged in as this chick and her fb was open and i saw her nudes? doesn't that end the exact same way as if i get flagged for it, and then give them the same story?
i guess i don't i mean, part of me sees it blowing up, being a huge story at work, ruining my career, but the other part of me is like surely that's not all going to happen cause i unintentionally saw her nude.
what would the emotional damage be though? no one would know about it, even if they found out, wouldn't they just fire me and say i was caught reading someone else's messenger, and the IT department would confirm with her that no one else saw the pics, they were not saved, and no one will ever see them?
edit: and i don't mean to ignore your advice or others advice about reporting it, like i feel so guilty and so phucked right now that i know i won't be able to work or sleep properly without saying something, my conscious has always nagged at me so hard so i think deep down this needs to be done. i'm just trying to not blow it out of proportion is all and maybe doing more harm than good if it's indeed something that is 99.99% going to go unnoticed.Last edited by AwFukBye; 12-19-2018 at 03:31 AM.
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12-19-2018, 03:30 AM #38
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No...
Hey I fcked up, here is what happened. - Yeah, you will probably get in trouble, but you admitted what went wrong, and came clean. You did what you could to make it right.
Hey, we caught you fcking up, and there is a lawsuit now, why didn't you report this immediately? - Failure to report, you will get canned, and be far more liable.
Seen this play out at old jobs all the time, someone sends a naked pic in text to someone, it gets passed around, and next thing you know a bunch of people in trouble, fired, company getting sued when realistically it wasn't their fault.
It's why I stayed the hell out of all of that, no co-workers had my number, work was work, private life private; if work needed me the manager could call me.Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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12-19-2018, 03:57 AM #39
So it's logged.
the side-thought: is it kept FOREVER? isn't there any sort of encryption or security measures to keep photos that i send from a logged in account away from public eyes? if i just guess the right characters at the end of a link then all of a sudden i'm looking at some nude the president sent to his lover?**Dutch Gardening Crew**
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12-19-2018, 04:07 AM #40
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12-19-2018, 04:15 AM #41
but all that's logged is that the PC accessed ******** at whatever time, correct? and given fb use is pretty common through the office, it will never be noticed?
then there will be the log of the actual picture link which will say PC accessed "image host website", and again, given fb use is pretty common i'm sure people have looked at pictures in messenger before in which case the log of the PC accessing the nude link would go unnoticed?
and if there are 80 PCs, and most of them browsing the internet throughout the day, that's a crapload of logging that 2 guys really wouldn't want to go through.
but are you telling me that technically, because it's logged, they could find the activity when messenger is being used, and then likely find the link for the hosting site as well. and that they could then theorectically isolate all logs of that site, and have right there in front of them the direct links to any and every picture that anyone in the office has ever opened on messenger? that's scary stuff. and actually sounds not that hard to do if the IT guy was so compelled... how is he looking at pictures people have been viewing on messenger really that much different to me opening her messenger and seeing them in there? (unless he was prompted for some reason to go digging)
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12-19-2018, 04:22 AM #43
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Well, I'm out, OP got good advice from posters in here and seems dead set on ignoring it and hoping this blows over. Best of luck bro, you might need it.
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12-19-2018, 04:38 AM #44
Hence setting up the appliance to flag traffic thats suspicious, block traffic they don't want to have.
Depending on the device/appliance they use, everything you do can be logged.
Timestamps, IP's, URL's, usernames, files downloaded, etc.
Most devices work with setting up rules on them and actions to take accordingly. They don't care about your connectivity to Walgreens to order your groceries online or whatever, and FB might very well be out of the question as well, as you say it's used by everyone. However..
but are you telling me that technically, because it's logged, they could find the activity when messenger is being used, and then likely find the link for the hosting site as well. and that they could then theorectically isolate all logs of that site, and have right there in front of them the direct links to any and every picture that anyone in the office has ever opened on messenger? that's scary stuff. and actually sounds not that hard to do if the IT guy was so compelled... how is he looking at pictures people have been viewing on messenger really that much different to me opening her messenger and seeing them in there? (unless he was prompted for some reason to go digging)
They can. But that also depends on the rules and regulations in regards to keeping logs (log retention) for laws etc. Some branches are required to keep 2 years worth of logging of all traffic in case something happens and evidence has to be provided (lets say a databreach where personal or customer information is leaked/stolen).
Other branches might only have 3 months that they need to save the logs. I can't tell you what your company does or should do.
In regards to him being able to open stuff, he should not be doing that either unless, as you say, he is expected/ordered to do so.
Neither of you should ever be going through her account without her clear approval, and even then I'd never do so.**Dutch Gardening Crew**
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fk that..
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12-19-2018, 04:48 AM #45
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12-19-2018, 05:20 AM #46
Your name fits this thread perfect, lmao.
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12-19-2018, 05:48 AM #47
I work in IT at a small company and there are only a few of us. While all sites visited are logged, its just a list of links in some file. To find it, they would have to go looking. And if they are like my IT dept they have no time and better things to do. Its likely no one will ever know. I would do nothing, if I were you. Nothing. If they bring it up, say "this guy sent me a link, I had no control over it." Its not really your fault unless they wanna fire you for using FB and they can definitely see ********.com in the list of logged sites. But again, to see this they would have to go look at this list, which here, we Never do. Because we do not care and have plenty to do already. Unless mgmt says "go look at "employees" history and find out what he is looking at". Without being told to, its likely they will never look and never see.
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12-19-2018, 08:05 AM #48
So what the fuk is the real story there?
Did you really get the pic from someone or were you just nosy and open her fb and here pics in the history?
You said in the beginning that the message popped up. Then later on you admitted logging in to her PC.
Your statements are sketchy.
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12-19-2018, 08:14 AM #49
too lazy to read thread but if you did not open it in a new tab and left it in the popup chat window, then it should not be in history. Theoretically if one was monitoring all incoming packets, then an image link could be constructed, but highly unlikely in this case imo.
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12-19-2018, 08:30 AM #50
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12-19-2018, 10:52 AM #52
You best defense would be to never, ever go on FB or any social media at work ever again. This will be your only go-to defense incase they find out and want an explanation.
You can clearly state "I no longer used social media at work due to this very incident and I was an unwilling party to what transpired". Or something similar.
This only works if you dont go on it again. No point saying your hands are clean and you were innocent when you kept going back for more. Oh and dont go to HR with this, ever.
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12-19-2018, 11:09 AM #53
I agree. I dont think id report it.
Possibly opening up a can of worms that dont need to be opened
I would bet they give you a warning about using social media on the comp unless you have absolutely ridiculous, egregious stuff on there
And opening up something someone else sent you is not "disseminating" porn
If you downloaded it and sent it to others, yea, it would be. You also cant control what other people send you
Edit: wait, i see you mentioned you logged into her pc? Thats pretty bad if true. I still would wait to see what they have on you before admitting to anything.Last edited by propreffered7; 12-19-2018 at 11:17 AM.
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12-19-2018, 11:38 AM #55
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Fkn LOL.
Honestly, since you did not actively download the image and if your sys admins actually do their jobs and actually go through logs then you should report the incident to save your butt.*** Extreme OCD crew *** (brb bench press not parallel to the ceiling beams)
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Depending on how their network is set up if they each have a user profile from a server domain then sysadmins can have access to their files to include pictures received through whatever protocol. It's generally a good practice for sysadmins to check *.jpg/*.png or whatever format to make sure people aren't doing anything nefarious in the network, although not many sys admins really do that nowadays because either they are lazy or just don't have the resource to be able to skim through.
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12-19-2018, 01:12 PM #58
IT wont go out of their way to verify your activity unless they have a reason to. opening an image from ******** is very, very, unlikely to turn heads.
what causes IT to verify account activity is malware, not following security procedures (e.g. downloading chrome, plugging in a personal usb stick), or unusually large amounts of data being exchanged between ur pc and another "intrusive" server.
other cases that are rarer include ATIP requests and scurity breaches.
in your case, what you did will likely go under their radar. if you dont do anything stupid, the only risks you run are external to your personal behaviour and unlikely in nature. IT would need to investigate your activity for an unrelated reason and happen to stumble upon your picture.
if they do stumble upon it by chance, they might not recognize the person in the photo (100 people is still a decently large company, and IT probably works separately from ur team), in which case it was an accident on ur part, it wasnt blocked by a firewall, and the logs will show that you closed the picture right away (im assuming u closed it right away, but as a miscer u may have fapped first lol).
so if i were you, i wouldnt get to worried. if you cant get over the anxiety, then it's time to get back on the job market.....Last edited by Lastro; 12-19-2018 at 01:19 PM.
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