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I negged him brah.
Yes I have for my entire time in college. I can tell you I had many great shifts with a ton of tips and some bad shifts with awful tips. It is just part of the job and I learned that quickly. I would have gone mad if I felt like that entitled whore single mother. I kept telling myself this is my first job out of high school and laying the ground work for what it takes to work hard and endure bad times as well for my professional career after college.
Half the time I was messing around with my co-workers as those of us that have ever worked at a restaurant know the culture between servers is fun and a lot of socializing goes on. I was never 100% with my tables and I will admit that. Some customers didn't give a chit and still tipped me well while others would be so anal they'd tell me right away when I greeted them. "We will tip you according to your service."
Me: "fuark it I don't need your bullchit and I hope my service screws up your experience." LOL
I didn't care because I was an 18-20 year old kid making money to pay for my cell phone, gas money and partying money while still living with my parents.
For that single mom...she should have swallowed instead or taken the morning after pill. Her life would have been a helluva lot easier than it is now.
Jakes on her! LOL
damn, so brutal yet so true
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06-06-2018, 02:56 PM #301
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06-06-2018, 03:06 PM #303
I tip typically 15%; more if the service was great, but travelling to other countries you get just as good, if not better service without tipping for the same cost. just lmao at people bitching about tips. i sank 150k and 8 years of undergrad and professional school to make a decent wage. I agree people should be pain a livable wage, no sympathy for people who complain.
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06-06-2018, 03:16 PM #304
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06-06-2018, 03:42 PM #307
Tips based on % of the bill is just bad logic.
Example -
Guy#1 orders 1 plate of fries... costs $10, 20% would be a $2 tip.
Guy#2 orders 1 plate of cavier... costs $100, 20% would be a $20 tip
In both examples, all the waitress did was carry 1 plate to the table 1 time... and never needed to do anything else for the customer.
Explain to me why guy #2 should pay a $20 tip, and not a $2 tip?Fak U say? Cheeky kent ya, i'll fakin fak ya, ya lil sloot
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06-06-2018, 03:48 PM #308
I think it's just a highly generalized concept, in the sense that a higher bill on a very general level would infer more server work. It certainly doesn't hold up on a case by case basis.
To the main point though, why should it be the responsibility of the customer at all to pay the waiter according to how much work he/she does?
The tip should purely be based on exceptional or extraordinary service. If a server does nothing except bring my food to the table, that should actually be a $0 tip in all circumstances. If they go out of their way (i.e. not work to rule), then I'll recognize it and tip accordingly.𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖈𝖍𝖊𝖈𝕶, 𝖓𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖆 𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍
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06-06-2018, 04:01 PM #309
I’m a server. I’ve worked Farming and make twice as much serving. Half of these servers don’t have a ****ing clue what kind of a joke the job is. Easy af, no risk of injury, you don’t get tired, you make decent pay, your co workers speak English and aren’t criminals, the list goes on. They would make decent tips if they learned some humility and checked their ego at the door to their entry level job.
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06-06-2018, 04:24 PM #311
Yeah, it's just not smart to have an unclear system...
For example, I don't think carrying a plate, or plates from a kitchen to a table is worth more than $10 an hour total
Not sure how servers work, but aren't they serving like 5+ tables at the same time?
Brb expecting to pull in $200+ per day for carrying plates from a kitchen to a table
Manual labor on a building site is gruelling stuff, and where i'm from it's a minimum wage, or there abouts kind of job... and you're carrying heavy as fuk stuff all day long, bad work conditions (it's a building site), etc...
Yet waitresses think they deserve to be making more than minimum wage?
Even using her in this example, apparently they get paid $2.63 per hour by the employer... and in this case she got a $5 or whatever tip... there's $7.63 right there, what is minimum wage in the usa? google says $7.25 per hour... now factor in that she's likely serving a bunch of different people/tables at once... times that by x2, x3, x4, x5
The servers should take it up with their employers, and ask for minimum wage, and no tips (and give all tips to their employer as a fair trade for getting minimum wage)... but they would never do this, because most of them are making at least double minimum wage, that's going by the low end of my estimations
They need to realise that sometimes they will get low tips, or no tips at all... and that's a choice they made by accepting that job... at the benefit that the expectation of $ made will be much greater than minimum wage over the course of the day/week/month.
It's not like anyone is forcing them to do a server job, they could quit and go get an actual minimum wage job if they don't like the fact that sometimes they don't get tipped.Fak U say? Cheeky kent ya, i'll fakin fak ya, ya lil sloot
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06-06-2018, 04:38 PM #312
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Server checking in.... This happens all the time. There is absolutely no reason to get mad for more than 5 seconds, let alone take the time to make a post about it...
Tips always even out, I guarantee someone else that night tipped her too much and evened it out.
Ill be honest, its a HARD job (most nights) and you wouldnt know unless youve done it before, but most servers still make more money than they should... I paid my way through college, able to write a personal check every semester for the full amount of tuition + paying rent + I was able to save up enough to pay closing costs (~$9000) on a house in the ghetto by senior year. 95% of your servers are grateful and know how good they have it, 5% are whores like this.
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06-06-2018, 04:55 PM #314
There are people that will argue with you that at least 15/20% of the bill should always be tipped, regardless of work involved
Never once seen a good reason for why
Like there are examples of how a $20 bill/customer could require the server to do more work than someone who had a $100 bill... yet they still think the $100 guy should tip 20%
It's just illogical, and they're either silly for not being able to recognise that, or they're just selfish and have blinded themselves from looking at things rationallyFak U say? Cheeky kent ya, i'll fakin fak ya, ya lil sloot
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06-06-2018, 05:43 PM #315
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strong ignorance.... you know about taxes right? tip out?
10% of the bill gets taxed as an assumed tip (Unless paid on card and more than 10% tip, then 100% of the tip is taxed) so $100 bill, $10+ is automatically taxed, so gov't automatically takes $3. You tip out busser 10-15% of sales at the end of the night, so thats another $1.00-1.50. Bartender gets 10-20% of alcohol sales. Lets say $0.50 just to make things even.
So do the math, she had to tip out $5 of the tip from that table, so she broke even
Not saying the whore was right to rant, serious case of first world problems... im just trying to inform the misc on how the restaurant business works since most never have to do it and get through college on mommy and daddys dime.
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06-06-2018, 06:53 PM #317
the logic is that if you can afford to spend more on eating out, you can afford to be more generous to your servers, or busboys, or limo driver, or whomever
i don't agree, because what if you're fresh out of high school, saved up for months to treat your hbb gf and future wife to a nice dinner - what, now they want me to fork over $50 in tips? fuk right off
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06-06-2018, 08:16 PM #319
At my serving job I made $2.15 an hour, but if my tips didnt equal minimum wage for the hours i worked than my employer was legally required to up it to being minimum wage in my state. With that being said, I made on average like $20/ hour when calculated. But i also worked at a nice restaurant at a hotel and not waffle house
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06-06-2018, 08:34 PM #322
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Foreign brahs may laugh at our tip system, but it’s suppose to incentive better work ethic and service instead of like an Aussie said “paying servers $28 an hr” and then getting bad service. Also I’m betting your meals are much more expensive to make up for that labor cost so either way you’re paying.
Now as for the topic at hand, bish should never complain about low tips period end of story.
As for some of the American comments. All servers are not making out like bandits/making >$30 an hr. It can very much be feast or famine and 1 good day of making $20 an hour wage+ tips can be countered the next day making $5 an hour wage+tips.
Only servers I know making $45-65k a year are working at nice restaurants. Most fall in the $25-35k range. While that is significantly better than the $17k minimum wage would earn for a job that requires no formal education (hence girl shouldn’t be complaining) it is still a far cry from living the good life.
I know this from being a server, having a niece who’s been a server, and having 20+ friends that were servers and a couple who remained servers for high end.
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06-06-2018, 08:38 PM #323
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06-06-2018, 08:43 PM #324
I wonder how much she thinks these guys deserve for carrying thousands of 50lb sacks out of multiple sea containers every day.
Should they be paid per sack? Or a % of the sack's retail value?
Oh, my bad, I forgot it's not a "service" job.
Learn the value of hard work and putting in an honest effort and stop looking to rationalize free hand-outs and looking for extra monetary incentives to do your job's baseline requirements.
How about when ppl say: "But I wouldn't provide good service if there were no tips."
Yeah so in other words you're a stuck up kunt who takes no pride in their work and has zero work ethic. Do you tip the receptionist for being nice to you as well or did you just expect that of their job?
Pls respond to all these new posts.Last edited by BostonRockets; 06-06-2018 at 08:52 PM.
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06-06-2018, 09:42 PM #325
I usually leave a buck as a thank you to a person for picking up my dirty tray and wiping the table after me, nothing more. But seeing this entitlement attitude makes me want to leave a zero. I'll gladly keep that $1 in my pocket if they don't appreciate it. This is actually one the reasons why I stay away from such restaurants and stick to a simple fast food, so I don't have to deal with this crap. See how much they like it if they don't have any customers at all. Single mom, 2 kids, and she acts like she's "sucking up her pride". Bitch please, you got no pride, your kids have no father and you're an irresponsible hoe.
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06-06-2018, 09:55 PM #326
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06-07-2018, 07:15 PM #330
Surely the higher tips make up for some of the lower ones? I have lived in the US and visited a few times too- wouldnt American's prefer jsut getting rid of the ridiculous tipping system, even if that meant the ~15% is just absorbed intot he menu prices? Annoying as chit as everyone has has their hand out.
I've also hand friends from Aus get harrassed nad exploted by service workers in the U.S in places like NYC where theya re targeted as tourists and 'chased out of bars' by angry staff for daring to tip ONLY 20%.
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