i never hear this one come up. sure they are 20 pounds off. but f it.
do you think fedor can keep liddell on the ground??
how long will fedor stand up with liddell?
if fedor doesnt keep him down hes not winning. liddell will catch him eventually.
ufc should have some sort of open weight division. anybody can fight anybody. doesnt go towards you record.
whose winning this fight? reason something up, dont just say fedor because you S2 S2 him.
ps. i know fedor doesnt fight in the ufc.
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Thread: Fedor Vs Liddell
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01-18-2007, 09:27 PM #1
Fedor Vs Liddell
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01-18-2007, 09:29 PM #2
Fedor's standup is probably atleast as good as anyone Chuck has faced. Fedor stood with Mirko, who is a far better striker than Chuck is. That's not to say Liddell coudn't catch him and KO him, but if Fedor has stood with Cro Cop for a long period of time and survived, it speaks volumes about how good he is at avoiding taking "the big one."
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01-18-2007, 09:34 PM #3
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01-18-2007, 11:09 PM #9
Yes but Mirko is also a much more accurate puncher than Liddell, and although he probably doesn't have as much one-punch KO power as Chuck does in his hands, his punches are much faster and more crisp. Honestly I think Chuck is more accurate than most give him credit for, but Mirko's boxing is on a whole different level. He could KO plenty of guys with his fists if he wanted, but his trademark is the high kick.
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01-18-2007, 11:11 PM #10
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Yes, Fedor can keep liddell on the ground. If Fedor can keep the worlds top *heavyweights* on the ground, what would possibly stop him from keeping Chuck Liddell on the ground?
Like BPP said, Fedor will stand as long as it takes to get him to the ground, I imagine with Fedor's takedowns it wouldn't take too long.
If you can make a comment like "Chuck will catch him eventually" then I can safely make a comment of "Fedor WILL take him down"
Fedor will win this fight, with absolute ease. Basic logic. Fedor has shut down the worlds best heavyweights time and time again, including a striker who is much, MUCH better than Liddell. Chuck would lose. Weren't people expecting Wandy to take out Chuck? Or at least put up one hell of a fight? The same Wandy that got horribly beat by Cro Cop? Who in turn got beat by Fedor? I know this "he beat him" stuff doesn't apply well as it's different fighting styles, but it's kinda hard not to do that given the proven calibur of each fighter. I see Fedor winning by GnP or a very, very easy decision.
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01-18-2007, 11:13 PM #11
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01-18-2007, 11:57 PM #12
mirko is a better striker, but his hands arent anywhere near as heavy as chucks are.
for the record i think chuck is a terrible fighter other than good take down skills, heavy hands, and steal jaw.
he has proved that he can take hits from anyone. If fedro had great cardio like rampage did then maybe. But he doesnt. I think chuck would knock him out 3rd round. plus chuck would probably weigh the same if he didnt cut for 205
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01-19-2007, 12:18 AM #13
How can you say Fedor doesn't have great cardio? The guy went three rounds with Noguiera and has never gassed out in a fight. Chuck hasn't proven he can take hits from anyone, BTW. Honestly, aside from Alistair Overeem and Quinton Jackson, he hasn't fought a whole lot of guys with much punching power at all, mostly grapplers; and even the aforementioned two guys aren't anywhere near the top. Fedor has fought guys like Mark Hunt, Cro Cop, and Semmy Schilt; all are top-level K-1 guys with proven KO power.
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01-19-2007, 12:24 AM #14
Tito, randy, jackson, overeem, belfort, randlemen, even vernon white is a respectable striker.
and babalu isnt a striker but if you watch the fight you will see chuck took about 10 straight shots in that first minute or so and didnt get phased.
you are clearly a pride nut hugger. unlike you see i dont take sides in this ****. both have their perks. different fighters have different qualities AND flaws that will match up differently against different fighters. MMAth doesnt work my friend.
fedors cardio is nowhere near guys like silva and jackson.
im not a chuck fan at all. i hope ill get a chance to fight him before he gets too old. but in this particular match up i think chuck would take it.
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01-19-2007, 12:25 AM #15
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01-19-2007, 12:34 AM #16
I am clearly a Pride nuthugger huh?
You are clearly out of your element and have no clue about the argument at hand. Randy, Tito, and Babalu are maybe above average by MMA standards, but to compare them to Mirko is just stupid. Those guys use their standup for mostly defensive purposes and to avoid not getting KO'ed and to get a fight to the ground ASAP, whereas Mirko uses his standup to knock sons-of-bitches out. Rampage's standup is decent, but still far from as good as Cro Cop's.
Also, I have no clue why you mentioned MMAth, because I never even brought it up, I was just comparing styles. Way to mention the obvious in the second half of your second paragraph, BTW. I had no idea that styles make fights!
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01-19-2007, 08:10 AM #22
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I thought that the UFC recently gave the "go ahead" to Wandy v Chuck. Don't know whent it'll happen though.
The way I see it Chuck has gained status as one of the best fighters (hence the belt). I'm not saying he's the best, but you have to realize that most people that are considered better than him are in a higher weight class. Fedor, Crocop, Arlovski, and Sylvia(yes I said it!) are all heavyweights.
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01-19-2007, 08:20 AM #23
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01-19-2007, 08:55 AM #25The whole world is gonna know who I AM!
Left kick hospital, Right kick cemetery!
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01-19-2007, 08:58 AM #26The whole world is gonna know who I AM!
Left kick hospital, Right kick cemetery!
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01-19-2007, 10:39 AM #27
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01-19-2007, 10:41 AM #28
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HAHA, it's funny, this guy negs me (didn't do anything) and calls me ignorant for claiming the worlds number one fighter would beat Chuck.
You said it yourself buddy, Mirko is a better striker, and I believe Mirko has a better sprawl than Liddell as well. If Mirko couldn't get the job done what could possibly convince you Liddell could? Re-read your words, here, let me quote them for you:
"mirko is a better striker"
"for the record i think chuck is a terrible fighter other than good take down skills, heavy hands, and steal jaw."
You acknowledge that Mirko is a better striker, and you go on to say yourself you think Chuck is a terrible fighter. So are you trying to tell me, that the worlds number one fighter, who has beaten ALL the top competition is going to lose in the third round to a "terrible fighter" who plans on landing a lucky shot with those heavy hands of his? And you have the balls to call me ignorant? Wow.
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01-19-2007, 12:02 PM #29
same reason tank abbott used to knock people out man
he hits hard and doesnt get knocked out EVER!
nearly everyone chuck has faced has been a better fighter than him. he just the ability to take shots to the face without being phased. while he is being his he lines up a hard shot and knocks you out. hes like homer simpson.
and you are ignorant.
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01-19-2007, 12:03 PM #30
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