Preventing PEA insomnia.

[Purge]

I've never been much of a coffee drinker and take stimulants like PEA on an empty stomach in the morning, but every once in a while it makes it damn near impossible to sleep without a healthy dose of melatonin. Is there any way to "cut it short"? I think I recall reading that fruit juice helps.

[VaughnTrue]

I've never been much of a coffee drinker and take stimulants like PEA on an empty stomach in the morning, but every once in a while it makes it damn near impossible to sleep without a healthy dose of melatonin. Is there any way to "cut it short"? I think I recall reading that fruit juice helps.

PEA has an insanely short half life. If you're taking it in the AM, it is not causing sleeplessness at night.

what other stims are you using?

[emergency]

decrease the amount you are taking.

[Purge]

PEA has an insanely short half life. If you're taking it in the AM, it is not causing sleeplessness at night.

what other stims are you using?

I take it with caffeine. Should I just ditch the caffeine altogether?

[VaughnTrue]

I take it with caffeine. Should I just ditch the caffeine altogether?

both when taken in the AM really shouldn't be effecting your sleep at night. Caffeines half-life is about 4 hours, and PEA's is about 10-15 minutes.


I'd lower your caffeine dosage and go from there.

[kbayne]

I've never been much of a coffee drinker and take stimulants like PEA on an empty stomach in the morning, but every once in a while it makes it damn near impossible to sleep without a healthy dose of melatonin. Is there any way to "cut it short"? I think I recall reading that fruit juice helps.

Like Vaughn said, PEA and caffeine in the morning shouldn't be disrupting sleep.

Prior to bed, how does your night go?

[AMeyer9]

I take it with caffeine. Should I just ditch the caffeine altogether?

No, ditch the PEA.

[BenBlue]

Considering PEA has a half life of something like 15 minutes, I think you're problem is something else entirely.

Caffeine half life is around 5 hours, so don't drink within 5 hours of bed and you're likely fine. If you have trouble sleeping, it's probably something else. Honestly, depending on how much caffeine, I can ingest caffeine fairly late in the day and have no problem sleeping, everyone is different, but there are your generic numbers to go by.

[Purge]

My nights are usually just fine.

I take hordenine with the PEA to help it along (natural MAOI). I'm thinking I might be going too long without eating after taking it and that food or fruit juice might help "settle" it.