~~Week 1 CFP poll~~

[JrM703]

they didn't really get snubbed bc week 9 rankings (or whatever week it is) don't matter. I feel like the committee does this chit every year with the first rankings. Like someone said earlier, come out with some outlandish rankings to get people to watch. And then just hope the season plays itself out

Gonna be great watching LSU DEMOLISH 2 top 4 teams. HHHHHNNNNNNGGGG

The ACC has more teams in the ESPN FPI than the PAC 12. Not to mention Washington's biggest win is against Utah, while Clemon beat Auburn, Florida State and Louisville.

Not rocket science brah.

[JrM703]

Because at the end of the day both teams are slightly different shades of ****

I understand you've got that B1G pride, keep repping, doesn't mean you're right though.

[Tears]

they didn't really get snubbed bc week 9 rankings (or whatever week it is) don't matter. I feel like the committee does this chit every year with the first rankings. Like someone said earlier, come out with some outlandish rankings to get people to watch. And then just hope the season plays itself out

Gonna be great watching LSU DEMOLISH 2 top 4 teams. HHHHHNNNNNNGGGG

What did the the committee do that was outlandish? A&M over Washington was really that ridiculous?

If anything, they'd want to avoid that due to the SEC.

[Godyssey]

they didn't really get snubbed bc week 9 rankings (or whatever week it is) don't matter. I feel like the committee does this chit every year with the first rankings. Like someone said earlier, come out with some outlandish rankings to get people to watch. And then just hope the season plays itself out

Gonna be great watching LSU DEMOLISH 2 top 4 teams. HHHHHNNNNNNGGGG

Yup LSU beats Bama. I called it pre season and I'm sticking with it

[JrM703]

What did the the committee do that was outlandish? A&M over Washington was really that ridiculous?

If anything, they'd want to avoid that due to the SEC.

I think people are forgetting Washington has no upper tier quality wins after Utah, and barely squeaked by them. Stanford isn't even ranked anymore, and barely beat a (3-5) Notre Dame team, so forget about that win Huskies.

[AriGhold]

I understand you've got that B1G pride, keep repping, doesn't mean you're right though.

I'm surprised you have the balls to as much as think about college football being a ND fan. Enjoy your **** ass season and leave the discussion to those that are ranked.

[UGK4lyfe]

what in the fuk
Tamu at 4? over Washington, Louisville, Ohio State?

not sure if srs

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/spo...ings/93134756/

I get your argument with Washington, maybe Louisville. But A&M's only loss is to Alabama. Ohio State lost to a then unranked team lol. Pretty self explanatory there.

[iZZmatic]

Completely forgot about this. Ayyyyyy we #2.

[AriGhold]

At home doesn't excuse us beating #12 by 40 lol. Home field isn't a 40 point advantage. It's trivial to argue over 3 vs 4 but OSU being 6 is a damn joke.

Washington goes undefeated and doesn't get in. The Penn State loss was essentially pointless to OSU. I'm not sure what the point of even playing a regular season is now lol

So penn st works as both a win against a tough team for Michigan and a loss to a bad team vs osu? You can't have it both ways. But you have yet to form a rational argument so I'm not sure I expected anything less.

[HoustonMiscer]

God damn these fuking A&M ******* fans on Twitter are insufferable. I want to fuking beat the chit out of all of them srs all they do is run their worthless mouths

[Godyssey]

So penn st works as both a win against a tough team for Michigan and a loss to a bad team vs osu? You can't have it both ways. But you have yet to form a rational argument so I'm not sure I expected anything less.

We beat them by 40. There was nothing tough about it. The only team that it was tough for was OSU bc they fukking suck. Keep following me around and quoting me. I don't care about you. Stay mad.

Move on.

[Averydabeast]

Errbody attacking tamu for going to overtime vs ucla but lets not forget it took a missed chip shot fg plus OT for clemson to beat nc state

[W1LLW]

Errbody attacking tamu for going to overtime vs ucla but lets not forget it took a missed chip shot fg plus OT for clemson to beat nc state

I don't care if clemson did squeak by louisville(6 point margin), auburn (6 point margin), and fsu (3 point margin). skeptical hippo is watching. would not be remotely surprised if syracuse upsets clemson saturday, but for now they stay i guess.

also the ranking through 8 virtually don't matter at all now, especiall B1G fanbases. it's really going to come down to the B1G championship to decide who goes, and as I like to tell people michigan been wrecking every team they face except wisconsin. a rematch in the b1g championship to decide who goes to the playoffs will be absolutely gold.

[AriGhold]

We beat them by 40. There was nothing tough about it. The only team that it was tough for was OSU bc they fukking suck. Keep following me around and quoting me. I don't care about you. Stay mad.

Move on.

years of the Buckeyes beating the **** out of you has really got you shook

[DeshaunWatson]

Errbody attacking tamu for going to overtime vs ucla but lets not forget it took a missed chip shot fg plus OT for clemson to beat nc state

It also took 4 Clemson turnovers in the redzone to let Nc St stay in that game.

[Calhexas]

It also took 4 Clemson turnovers in the redzone to let Nc St stay in that game.

You consistently bring up turnovers like it's ok

[DeshaunWatson]

You consistently bring up turnovers like it's ok

It's not. But it shows how much help the opposition needed to remotely have a chance.

[W1LLW]

We beat them by 40. There was nothing tough about it. The only team that it was tough for was OSU bc they fukking suck. Keep following me around and quoting me. I don't care about you. Stay mad.

Move on.

years of the Buckeyes beating the **** out of you has really got you shook

ahaha we playoff now

die alone

[buckeyenutz]

It's not. But it shows how much help the opposition needed to remotely have a chance.

Maybe I'm missing some context here--but the last I checked, mistakes like turning the ball over (a lot, in the red zone) are still leveraged when measuring how good a team is overall. Sure, being able to overcome those adversities are important too; but, the errors shouldn't be discounted. If not mitigated, mistakes like those will eventually cost a game.

[DeshaunWatson]

Maybe I'm missing some context here--but the last I checked, mistakes like turning the ball over (a lot, in the red zone) are still leveraged when measuring how good a team is overall. Sure, being able to overcome those adversities are important too; but, the errors shouldn't be discounted. If not mitigated, mistakes like those will eventually cost a game.

I understand 1 or 2 turnovers tops. If we don't turn the ball over 4 times against NC ST, we win by 21 and cover the spread. If we don't turn the ball over 5 times against UL, we win by 4 TD's. We would be putting up the same #'s as Michigan, except, it's against decent opponents.

[Grapist]

Ayyyyyyyy we in this

Washington is gonna be a nonfactor anyways after the pirate pulls of the upset. I can feel it in my bones.

[W1LLW]

Yup LSU beats Bama. I called it pre season and I'm sticking with it

unless you predicted going 2-2, and the firing of Les Miles as well no one is really trying to hear this.

I understand 1 or 2 turnovers tops. If we don't turn the ball over 4 times against NC ST, we win by 21 and cover the spread. If we don't turn the ball over 5 times against UL, we win by 4 TD's. We would be putting up the same #'s as Michigan, except, it's against decent opponents.

i think what everyone is getting at, is that you're using conditional statements to speculate what clemson could do. but are currently not doing.
for example, a viqueen fan in another thread said if it wasn't for our o-line we would be a superbowl contender. but you're not a superbowl contender.

so the opposing fanbases saying yes maybe you would be beating teams by michigan margins if you weren't turning the ball over. but you are.


all that said. clemson did go to the natty champs last year and played bama hard so no one in here is saying Clemson is horrible, just perhaps maybe your argument for why they aren't, is.

[buckeyenutz]

I understand 1 or 2 turnovers tops. If we don't turn the ball over 4 times against NC ST, we win by 21 and cover the spread. If we don't turn the ball over 5 times against UL, we win by 4 TD's. We would be putting up the same #'s as Michigan, except, it's against decent opponents.

I guess my point is lost on you--great teams, championship teams--do not consistently turn the ball over that many times, period.

If they do not get it addressed, eventually they'll find themselves in a situation that will result in a loss.

And arguing that a team should be putting up numbers similar to a team like Michigan except for [something they are doing badly] simply makes the case for them to be labeled a team among teams.

Any other program not doing what Michigan is doing can make that same claim--regardless of 8-0 or 0-8.

[rainieravesouth]

quality win over Prairie View A&M. good call CFP.

they're just doing this to get people talking. all hype.

If Washington wins out and are undefeated conference champs, the committee is taking that over a 1 loss sec team who arent conference champs.


besides, its just the 1st rankings of the season. this will change weekly....at least the #4 spot will

[Calhexas]

I understand 1 or 2 turnovers tops. If we don't turn the ball over 4 times against NC ST, we win by 21 and cover the spread. If we don't turn the ball over 5 times against UL, we win by 4 TD's. We would be putting up the same #'s as Michigan, except, it's against decent opponents.

You've turned the ball over 2 or more times in 5 different games. You have a -1 turnover margin.

It's a consistent problem, not a fluke. Stop implying otherwise

[Heaney]

Not sure why ppl care about 2/3 placing as it makes exactly zero difference if UM is 2 or Clemson is 2, they would play eachother either way. UM is the only team in the nation who has 3 top 15 wins, say what you want about them being at home

[Godyssey]

years of the Buckeyes beating the **** out of you has really got you shook

Yet again a pointless irrelevant "argument" .

No one cares about what you did. What you're DOING is being a chitty football team. You're obsessed with Michigan and you're obsessed with me.

You getting dominated by Penn State got you shook. Move on

[DeshaunWatson]

You've turned the ball over 2 or more times in 5 different games. You have a -1 turnover margin.

It's a consistent problem, not a fluke. Stop implying otherwise

See you in January. Hopefully you don't need a fluke onside kick to stay in the game.

[W1LLW]

See you in January. Hopefully you don't need a fluke onside kick to stay in the game.

i mean, not to be a dick or anything but unlike clemson's endless stream of turnovers and winning games by an unranked team hitting a goal post... the onside kick was planned.

[Godyssey]

unless you predicted going 2-2, and the firing of Les Miles as well no one is really trying to hear this.

I couldn't care less what you're trying to hear kid. I felt/feel LSU can and will beat Bama. Cry somewhere else