October Surprise - Trump Tax Return Leak - 916 Million Loss in 1995

[Lolip0p]

NYT did the same thing in 2014, close to 1 billion... *facepalm*

[FlexLex]

The issue is not Trump doing anything wrong, its whether or not our current tax code makes sense. Trumps tax plan cuts taxes at a much higher percent for rich people.

Thats the message here, someone who under the law doesnt pay taxes but is woeth billions is pushing for even less taxes on the rich.

You can disagree with the policy here and think the rich pay enough, but dont deny that there is an argument to be had with this entire thing.

[CalmWind]

The issue is not Trump doing anything wrong, its whether or not our current tax code makes sense. Trumps tax plan cuts taxes at a much higher percent for rich people.

Thats the message here, someone who under the law doesnt pay taxes but is woeth billions is pushing for even less taxes on the rich.

You can disagree with the policy here and think the rich pay enough, but dont deny that there is an argument to be had with this entire thing.

Trump's tax plan makes it so the poor and lower income brackets pay NO tax.

Everyone saves under Trump's plan.

[CalmWind]

oh and for the record, Trump doesn't say "bigly"

he says "Big league"

It's an old fashioned saying influenced by Major League Baseball. Even today we have Little League Baseball for little kids. When you're an amateur, a little kid, you're in Little league. If you made it to the MLB, you were in the "big league".... the pro's.

So.... If you did something "big league", it means you did something at the level of an expert, a professional.


If you were an American loving patriot, you would know this. Instead of you America-hating liberals who have no idea about American culture and criticize Trump for words he isn't even using. Trying to make him look stupid.

[Venom08]

lol that's it? ok.
Meanwhile Assange is going to release info that'll put Hillary in jail.

[CodeMajic]

We're talking about a period where monkeys were becoming paper millionaires picking stocks.

so your parents are millionaires? Or are they dumber than monkeys?

[CodeMajic]

Lmao at arguing that a BILLIONAIRE isn't good with money.

Liberal 101

[Cuchulainn]

Lmao at arguing that a BILLIONAIRE isn't good with money.

Liberal 101

Yes, arguing that someone who loses a billion dollars in a single year when there was no market crash/recession probably isn't great with money.

[NYPat]

oh and for the record, Trump doesn't say "bigly"

he says "Big league"

It's an old fashioned saying influenced by Major League Baseball. Even today we have Little League Baseball for little kids. When you're an amateur, a little kid, you're in Little league. If you made it to the MLB, you were in the "big league".... the pro's.

So.... If you did something "big league", it means you did something at the level of an expert, a professional.


If you were an American loving patriot, you would know this. Instead of you America-hating liberals who have no idea about American culture and criticize Trump for words he isn't even using. Trying to make him look stupid.

Fuking lol.


And if Trump thought he was so smart not paying any taxes, why didn't he show all his tax returns proving how smart he was?

[moksha16]

Just watching an interview with the Reporter who released this.

first.. the reporter got this info weeks ago and has spent weeks investigating and verifying it.


Second.. and bigly more interesting.. she was asked if she had any other documents.. she could barely contain herself but said
"we continue to do more reporting around this.. but no comment" with a yyyyuge smile

then was asked if she knows the source of the leak

"No comment" also with a yyyyyyuge smile

[Stizzel]

Yes, arguing that someone who loses a billion dollars in a single year when there was no market crash/recession probably isn't great with money.

Most business owners fail at some point. And all of them go out of their way put as little income on their tax returns as possible.

Unlike hillary, and all the retarded welfare leeches voting for her, trump did not have legions of IRS agents collecting his income under threat of arrest. Its like someone sitting in the bleachers telling an actual player how awful they are.

The whole fcking point of markets is that peope can fail. Its more about loss than it is about profit. If trump fails he should eat a loss. What repercussions did hillary ever face for her mistakes?

[NYPat]

Most business owners fail at some point. And all of them go out of their way put as little income on their tax returns as possible.

Unlike hillary, and all the retarded welfare leeches voting for her, trump did not have legions of IRS agents collecting his income under threat of arrest. Its like someone sitting in the bleachers telling an actual player how awful they are.

The whole fcking point of markets is that peope can fail. Its more about loss than it is about profit. If trump fails he should eat a loss. What repercussions did hillary ever face for her mistakes?

Fuking lmao.

Jesus. Fuking. Christ. LMAO!

[MinisterOfLust]

Most business owners fail at some point. And all of them go out of their way put as little income on their tax returns as possible.

Unlike hillary, and all the retarded welfare leeches voting for her, trump did not have legions of IRS agents collecting his income under threat of arrest. Its like someone sitting in the bleachers telling an actual player how awful they are.

The whole fcking point of markets is that peope can fail. Its more about loss than it is about profit. If trump fails he should eat a loss. What repercussions did hillary ever face for her mistakes?

Is this real life? WTF mane

[moksha16]

retarded welfare leeches

jizzel and trump think roads pave themselves and soldiers are fed and armed from a fairy tree.

[GhenghisPWN]

How can we vote for someone who understands the tax code and follows it?

Trump's CPA is not running for President.

[Jimagine88]

Compromising national security and breaking the law > calling someone fat and trying to pay less tax.

Do not bring W. Bush into this!

[SillieBazzillie]

Most business owners fail at some point. And all of them go out of their way put as little income on their tax returns as possible.

Unlike hillary, and all the retarded welfare leeches voting for her, trump did not have legions of IRS agents collecting his income under threat of arrest. Its like someone sitting in the bleachers telling an actual player how awful they are.

The whole fcking point of markets is that peope can fail. Its more about loss than it is about profit. If trump fails he should eat a loss. What repercussions did hillary ever face for her mistakes?

I don't even...the whole point of markets is that people can fail? Trumpers gonna Trumper.

[SillieBazzillie]

Trumpers explain one thing. So people who are on welfare are leeches while a rich guy who pays no taxes is applauded as your lord and savior? You realize that welfare isn't a lot, right? And you realize that it's likely a large part of his $1B of losses were paper only and bs? And that he in fact made quite a bit of actual income that he paid no taxes on?

But you genius's are all good with this, yes?

[Foe1605]

Trumpers explain one thing. So people who are on welfare are leeches while a rich guy who pays no taxes is applauded as your lord and savior? You realize that welfare isn't a lot, right? And you realize that it's likely a large part of his $1B of losses were paper only and bs? And that he in fact made quite a bit of actual income that he paid no taxes on?

But you genius's are all good with this, yes?

I'm not sure why you can't grasp this simple concept. Trump carried forward losses, therefore, by law, he was not required to pay income tax. The same rule would apply to a small business owner like you or me. Also, when you own commercial real estate you pay property tax in addition to federal income tax, so he has in fact contributed large amounts of tax dollars over the years. You know all of this... so I'm not sure why you are still blundering on.

And I don't think anyone is saying all people on welfare are leeches. I just think it's pretty clear that providing someone with subsidized housing, an EBT card, and a welfare check every month, while offering no incentive to make a life change is a poor allocation of resources.

[JakeB27]

Srs question.

How do you lose a billion dollars during a booming economy?

You had chit for brains janitors & dishwashers making money in dot com stocks in '95, while this retard was losing money.

Idk *******, you sound like you have it figured out though. Sure can't wait to see your business take off since you're clearly more business savvy

[ScottTil]

And he made an epic comeback just like Americas comeback will be epic!

MAGA

[Bushmaster]

Trumpers explain one thing. So people who are on welfare are leeches while a rich guy who pays no taxes is applauded as your lord and savior? You realize that welfare isn't a lot, right? And you realize that it's likely a large part of his $1B of losses were paper only and bs? And that he in fact made quite a bit of actual income that he paid no taxes on?

But you genius's are all good with this, yes?

I have rental property and do the same thing. 9% effective tax rate of peace. Don't hate the player son, hate the game.

[GhenghisPWN]

That's absurd. My hungry stomach doesn't create a job. It creates a need. There has to be an enterprising person who is willing and capable of fulfilling that need. If no one is able to fulfill that need by producing a product to feed me while being able to turn a profit I go hungry or I have to try and feed myself. Without these enterprising people we all try to fulfill our own needs and we are stuck in third world country status. Job creators are important and in a sense they are wizards. If you have ever seen the sacrifice many of them go through to get a company off of the ground you should be grateful people like this exist.

I was being extreme to highlight the fallacy that many people with low self-confidence have:

"I could never run a successful business, that's why we have entrepreneurs. THEY create jobs and keep people like me employed. It's in our best interest to appease them at all costs or they'll quit using their magic to make jobs appear."

Demand is necessary just as having the ability to meet those demands at a profit is necessary (planning, processes, execution, timing, etc.). No demand, no incentive to capitalize an idea, then no job is "created". If there is demand, but the execution to capitalize is piss poor then that business will fail.

It pisses me off greatly there is no middle ground here. The fact the middle class is getting squeezed is going to be a huge deal when incomes cannot sustain the thirst for growth.

[moksha16]

And he made an epic comeback just like Americas comeback will be epic!

MAGA

An epic comeback on the back of the investors and contractors that he screwed losing a billion dollars, and on the back of the tax payers that had to pick up the slack for HIS COLOSSAL FAILURE..

all the while those tax payers payed for the roads, paid for the military, paid for schools and trump flew around in his jet paying nothing while bragging about "success" after everyone else bailed him out.

[moksha16]

And I don't think anyone is saying all people on welfare are leeches. I just think it's pretty clear that providing someone with subsidized housing, an EBT card, and a welfare check every month, while offering no incentive to make a life change is a poor allocation of resources.

Not only are welfare moms with 8 kids and don't pay taxes not leeches, THEY ARE GENIUSES. They've legally used the laws of the land to benefit themselves.


What incentive does donald trump have to not be a tremendously chitty business man if the only people that suffer a loss after his horrendous management are the contractors, investors, and banks that got screwed and the middle class tax payers that picked up the slack for 20 years while trump kept living in penthouse and flying around on a jet yet paid nothing. Poor allocation of resources indeed.

[ack33]

An epic comeback on the back of the investors and contractors that he screwed losing a billion dollars, and on the back of the tax payers that had to pick up the slack for HIS COLOSSAL FAILURE..

all the while those tax payers payed for the roads, paid for the military, paid for schools and trump flew around in his jet paying nothing while bragging about "success" after everyone else bailed him out.

Too bad a politician hasn't done something to stop those types of tax laws from existing. I mean, I know those laws have existed since about 1918, but surely some President or someone in government could've stopped it by now, right?