That is low self esteem. Holding someone to such high estimation, that you feel it's ok for them to abuse the hell out of you. That is not love. As soon as you start holding someone else to unnaturally high levels of estimation, you are are likely to have some degree of self esteem issues.
Also like I said, women are far more susceptible to low self esteem than men are.
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To all the guys talking about how women should just leave if a guy gets abusive....and that if she stays, she's at fault....you have no idea the type of manipulation that goes on in a relationship that is abusive. In most cases, these abusers begin by emotionally manipulating and abusing their women before they ever put a hand on her. They'll convince her that she'd be nothing without him. They convince her that she is lucky to have him and if she ever left, bad things would happen. Its the exact same process that a lot of child molesters use to groom their victims before actually abusing. And sometimes, the abuse gets so bad that they fear for their lives if they were to leave.
I spent two years in an abusive relationship when I was 20-22yrs old. He was the first guy I lived with, things were great until a few months into us living together. It was a slow process and the first time he hit me, he seemed genuinely sorry after. He promised it would never happen again. So we continued, and gradually his abuse got worse, but his words got worse too. It eventually got to the point where he told me he would kill me and kill my entire family if I ever left him. And I believed him because there were a few times where he almost DID kill me. I was afraid to leave, I didn't want anything happening to my family. I eventually got out of the relationship because he attacked me in a public area of our apartment building (cracked my head off a washing machine in the common laundry area) and left me bleeding on the floor, but my landlord heard the entire attack and called the police. He was charged, convicted and I was able to get out because of her taking action and I am forever grateful.
But please don't ever think that a victim is to blame. Its not a black and white issue, so many times the woman is afraid to leave because she knows he will find her and kill her. Guys like that are monsters, and they have no sense of right and wrong. You wouldn't blame a child for being molested and not speaking up about it, because we all know that children are groomed to be afraid of the consequences of speaking up about it and women who are abused often are groomed as well.
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if someone turned out to be a massive douchenugget who abuses you while you were thinking that person was nice, you leave and report it to the police (whether they do something about it or not). if you don't, you got no right to cry when you get hit again. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. you're not responsible for the actions of others unless they are a reaction to your actions, and staying with them is your action. if you stay, you're subtly telling them that it's okay to continue doing what they do because you don't stand up for yourself and probably won't in the future.
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I disagree.
Consider this: It doesn't matter if he beats her every day for a year. If on day 366, she calls the cops, then he gets arrested. They don't show up and say "Well you stuck around, so you had it coming".
It may be hard for those of you who have not had mental issues, but this is a mental issue. I used to think that people who were depressed just needed to suck it up and get over it. Then my PTSD overwhelmed me and I got clinical depression. I realized that I couldn't just shake it off.
People who stay in abusive relationships are mentally damaged.Jesus is my lifting partner.
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05-04-2016, 01:29 PM #167
If you're stupid enough to hang out with a degenerate dirtbag and something bad happens to you--be it abuse, assault, theft, murder, etc.--I don't have any sympathy for you no matter who you are. Any sensible person can see red flags coming a mile away. Just like I don't feel sorry for Grizzlyman getting mauled by a bear because he was hanging out in bear territory. Good or bad, you can choose your relationships in life. Is that so hard to understand?
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It's more than just low self esteem like I said, other things like Trauma bonding, pair bonding and others factors that another brah pointed out like a abuse in childhood. All those factors combined.
Just reducing it to low self esteem oversimplifies things and ignores the emotional attachment that is independent of self esteem, and it ignores how these bonds can develop insidiously and subtly. It's like having a family member that is toxic, even people with high self esteem still feel a bond with that person (even if they cut them out of their life there is a sadness that the relationship couldn't have been positive).If You Don't Like To Talk About Your Feelings, This Might Help...
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These people are stupid as chit. LOL Kid racks up 400$ in mom's credit cards and she yells and kicks him out over Twitch.
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