Early birds fantasy football discussion v.2

[Impurityz]

no one will be holding the broncos, cowboys, Vikings, steelers, packers, ravens, bengals all year.

They will be available during certain weeks of the year, none of them are strong enough to hold through their bye weeks IMO

There will be a few teams that hold more then 1 defense.
say u take the top 12 teams by adp

the following teams are in the top 12
broncos
packers

ravens are 13
dallas 15
cinci 16
minn 17

and well I dont really think the steelers will be drafted, but some people still hear the name steelers and think they have a great defense for some reason

but back to your original point, yes the 49ers can be one of those teams u stream against, but there are also plenty of other teams you can stream against as well. As you know it is all dependent on who is available and what week we are in.

[y0lked]

no one will be holding the broncos, cowboys, Vikings, steelers, packers, ravens, bengals all year.

They will be available during certain weeks of the year, none of them are strong enough to hold through their bye weeks IMO

Cowboys defense is going to suprise some people. Hardy and D Lawrence on the ends (not to mention Randy Gregory in hardy's place first 4 weeks). Sean Lee, R Mcclain, Hitchens at LB. Then you got Scandrick, Byron Jones and Claiborne/Carr playing the corner spots, and JJ Wilcox/B Jones/Bary Church playing safety.... Cowboys could definitely have a top 12 defense this year to go with that high powered offense. Dont forget, Rod Merineli emphasizes takeaways one game last year I had my boys in during a bye and they got me something like 32 points off 3 picks, couple sacks and lkike 2 returned fumbles

[MurkinSeason]

anyone have a projection for J Randle. Certainly his stock isnt that high right now because he is unproven and we have mc fadden in the mix (who they were/are very high on when they signed him). The notion coming out of Oxnard right now is that Randle is going to be the #1 back but nothing is even close to set in stone.

Assuming Randle is going to get say 70% of the runs next year, what pick would you take him with? If he can put together a season, he will eat yardage all day long behind that line!

The running situation is still a little murky at this point and it's still early but I think he's a 4th round pick. If he keeps his starting job I think he will get 15 touches a game which is more than enough.

[Impurityz]

The running situation is still a little murky at this point and it's still early but I think he's a 4th round pick. If he keeps his starting job I think he will get 15 touches a game which is more than enough.

I see what you did there

[GingerBrah]

There will be a few teams that hold more then 1 defense.
say u take the top 12 teams by adp...

Damn, didn't realize this. In my league last year no one carried more than 1 defense.

Cowboys defense is going to suprise some people. Hardy and D Lawrence on the ends (not to mention Randy Gregory in hardy's place first 4 weeks). Sean Lee, R Mcclain, Hitchens at LB. Then you got Scandrick, Byron Jones and Claiborne/Carr playing the corner spots, and JJ Wilcox/B Jones/Bary Church playing safety.... Cowboys could definitely have a top 12 defense this year to go with that high powered offense. Dont forget, Rod Merineli emphasizes takeaways one game last year I had my boys in during a bye and they got me something like 32 points off 3 picks, couple sacks and lkike 2 returned fumbles

They do generally have a strong running game which helps with their possession time... when Dallas has the ball they can't be scored on and they tend to hold the ball a ton.

Edit: just looked it up. apparently they 'only' possessed the ball for just over 32 minutes a game last year. Not as dominate as I thought.

I see what you did there

[MurkinSeason]

Cowboys defense is going to suprise some people. Hardy and D Lawrence on the ends (not to mention Randy Gregory in hardy's place first 4 weeks). Sean Lee, R Mcclain, Hitchens at LB. Then you got Scandrick, Byron Jones and Claiborne/Carr playing the corner spots, and JJ Wilcox/B Jones/Bary Church playing safety.... Cowboys could definitely have a top 12 defense this year to go with that high powered offense. Dont forget, Rod Merineli emphasizes takeaways one game last year I had my boys in during a bye and they got me something like 32 points off 3 picks, couple sacks and lkike 2 returned fumbles

Dallas D relies on takeaways and they were monsters at that last season they had 31 trailing only the Texans in that category. The only problem is they give up a lot of points!! I'm exited to see what they can do this season for sure.

[GingerBrah]

Dallas D relies on takeaways and they were monsters at that last season they had 31 trailing only the Texans in that category. The only problem is they give up a lot of points!! I'm exited to see what they can do this season for sure.

What am I missing? the site im on says Dallas was +6 last year in turnover ratio

http://www.nfl.com/teams/dallascowbo...seasonType=REG

[MurkinSeason]

I see what you did there

[Impurityz]

What am I missing? the site im on says Dallas was +6 last year in turnover ratio

http://www.nfl.com/teams/dallascowbo...seasonType=REG

what does the ratio have to do with anything?

[MurkinSeason]

What am I missing? the site im on says Dallas was +6 last year in turnover ratio

http://www.nfl.com/teams/dallascowbo...seasonType=REG

They had 18 INTs and 13 fumbles totaling 31 takeaways. Houston had like 34 total. The give/take differential is 6 tho.

[GingerBrah]

what does the ratio have to do with anything?

Now that I've re-read your original post... nothing. My bad. I read it that Dallas was +31 in turnover ratio and my mind was nuked

[dhawkeye1980]

There will be a few teams that hold more then 1 defense.
say u take the top 12 teams by adp

the following teams are in the top 12
broncos
packers

ravens are 13
dallas 15
cinci 16
minn 17

and well I dont really think the steelers will be drafted, but some people still hear the name steelers and think they have a great defense for some reason

but back to your original point, yes the 49ers can be one of those teams u stream against, but there are also plenty of other teams you can stream against as well. As you know it is all dependent on who is available and what week we are in.

I like detroit and Min defense this year. Plus miami was good last year

[Ace28]

no need to reach for a qb at pick 3...all the elite ones will be gone


also
who would you rather have
Cobb or E Sanders?

Cobb had a break out contract year last year -

Personally like Sanders a bit more, Orange Julius out of Town and Davante Adams will eat into COBSS TD'S IMO.

[reverse79]

im targeting any afc east defense

stacked on the front lines and back end (except NE)

[PotKettleBlack]

im targeting any afc east defense

stacked on the front lines and back end (except NE)

I think they can all be useful tbf. New England on paper have the weakest-looking, but the strength of their offense likely dictating their opposition having to throw 1203093x a game works in their favour. I think they may surprise a few people with the youngsters they have.

[Impurityz]

Just joined an auction money league drafting tomorrow.

Figured this would be one way to force me into trying auction.
Gotta do some research tonight.

[P51]

why do you guys draft so early? I've never had a draft before the preseason games even.

[GingerBrah84]

How does everyone feel about Alfred Morris this year with Helu gone?

[Impurityz]

How does everyone feel about Alfred Morris this year with Helu gone?

I live in the DC area and I hear about how they love the rookie this year as a change of pace back.

I think all teams will tend to stack the box against rg3 and their run game more often then not until rg3 proves he can be a consistent passer

[dhawkeye1980]

I live in the DC area and I hear about how they love the rookie this year as a change of pace back.

I think all teams will tend to stack the box against rg3 and their run game more often then not until rg3 proves he can be a consistent passer

Yea but i think he will be a change of pace back along how mckinnon is APs change of pace, morris has a great YPC and I think morris will get his carries increased this year

[Impurityz]

Yea but i think he will be a change of pace back along how mckinnon is APs change of pace, morris has a great YPC and I think morris will get his carries increased this year

I have always been down on him.

He just has some complete horrible games.
Turns me off

[theACEofSPADES]

How do you guys feel about these RBs...

L.Murray
M.Ingram
C.Hyde
A.Ellington
L.Miller
J.Stewart

Who do you think is the best RB2?

[Impurityz]

How do you guys feel about these RBs...

L.Murray
M.Ingram
C.Hyde
A.Ellington
L.Miller
J.Stewart

Who do you think is the best RB2?

As ADP shows I would go Ingram

Hyde might be going around Ingram tho,but I go ingram

[meyer23]

How do you guys feel about these RBs...

L.Murray
M.Ingram
C.Hyde
A.Ellington
L.Miller
J.Stewart

Who do you think is the best RB2?

Ingram
Murray
Miller
Ellington
Hyde
JStew

[theACEofSPADES]

As ADP shows I would go Ingram

Hyde might be going around Ingram tho,but I go ingram

I'm kind of high on Murray for some reason. I just have a feeling he's gonna break out, but he does play for the Raiders and you never know with them. Ingram might finally live up to his 1st round status this year, assuming he stays healthy. I think the Saints are going for a more balanced attack with the addition of Unger and sending away Graham, not to mention an older Brees

[The_Albatross]

How do you guys feel about these RBs...

L.Murray
M.Ingram
C.Hyde
A.Ellington
L.Miller
J.Stewart

Who do you think is the best RB2?

Lamar Miller isn't an RB2 for starters

[Impurityz]

Lamar Miller isn't an RB2 for starters

Do you consider him a rb1?

[theACEofSPADES]

Lamar Miller isn't an RB2 for starters

That's what I originally thought but I see a lot of people riding his dick this year so I threw him in there

[The_Albatross]

Do you consider him a rb1?

Depends on how you definite RB1. Is he top 10 or top 12 at his position? The numbers say yes. He is also in the second best offense among the other RBs aceofspades listed there and has the fewest question marks surrounding his usage, health, and competition for touches among that group of RBs as well.

[The_Albatross]

That's what I originally thought but I see a lot of people riding his dick this year so I threw him in there

Miller is the one player on the Dolphins whose dick isn't being ridden this offseason. ADP of RB17 in standard scoring leagues so far.