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    Is your company an equal opportunity employer, brah?

    Just sayin, race could've helped. Minority myself here and even though I don't like to think race matters it probably does with company initiative to have a diverse workforce.
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    I'm white brah lol

    Idk why he even brought that up bruh, you're clearly white. I'm feeling a little offended myself to be honest with you.
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    Originally Posted by lnvictus View Post
    Is your company an equal opportunity employer, brah?

    Just sayin, race could've helped. Minority myself here and even though I don't like to think race matters it probably does with company initiative to have a diverse workforce.

    If you get hired based on what you look like, you probably don't wanna work there anyways.
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    Originally Posted by lnvictus View Post
    The reality is there is affirmative action/positive discrimination when choosing candidates.

    I don't see anything about saying "Hey, this guy is this color, lets get him on-board!"
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    Does anyone else have as much trouble subnetting as I do?

    I can give you the hosts and networks of a cidr notation, but I can't do the network address part.
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    I don't buy the whole positive discrimination thing. While I'm not black, I do have a very obvious physical disability (Cerebral Palsy for anyone interested. If unaware, think Walt Jr. from Breaking Bad. Strong Username to post content ratio.) Anyway, if affirmative action was as someone said, I would've been employed a long time ago. Worked my ass off to get a CCNA, and the only thing it's gotten me so far is past the resume filter. Maybe my resume is ****ty, maybe my interview skills are ****ty. Nonetheless, it's been difficult to find an entry level position. I've also noticed that a lot of the entry level stuff is bitch work and heavy lifting, which I can't perform. Disability laws say you have to provide REASONABLE accommodation, but the word reasonable seems largely up to interpretation depending on the employer. As long as they don't mention a disability specifically to the point where it can be seen as possible discrimination their asses are covered.

    I love networking, and I'm going to continue to stay positive and I'm in the process of gathering materials that I'm going to use to try to get the CCNP. I just hope that an employer won't see me as just some paper cert because of it. While experience trumps all, I'm not one of those people who memorizes test dumps for a couple weeks and goes to get a cert. I'm considering retooling as a programmer because it's a job in which I could sit at a desk most of the day and not have to do strenuous physical activity. I guess I'll just continue to be diligent in the search. Crossing my fingers for someone to take a chance on me. We're all gonna make it brahs.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    Does anyone else have as much trouble subnetting as I do?

    I can give you the hosts and networks of a cidr notation, but I can't do the network address part.
    subnetting is annoying as phuck I only mastered it since I memorized all the common cidr. So if I get a question that ask for network with 255.255.255.252 subnet mask or /30 I immediately know there are only going to be 2 devices on that network.

    My suggestion is figuring out the subnet mask so you can find the amount of hosts within a subnet. Im on mobile at the moment ill write a little tutorial when I get home tonight if you want.
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    Originally Posted by SynapticCleft View Post
    subnetting is annoying as phuck I only mastered it since I memorized all the common cidr. So if I get a question that ask for network with 255.255.255.252 subnet mask or /30 I immediately know there are only going to be 2 devices on that network.

    My suggestion is figuring out the subnet mask so you can find the amount of hosts within a subnet. Im on mobile at the moment ill write a little tutorial when I get home tonight if you want.

    Yeah, /30 is definitely important considering we talk a lot about site-to-site connections. Ya know what it is, I know how to subnet. If you tell me any cidr notation and say "Tell me the hosts and networks in this" I'll be able to tell you. It's finding the broadcast that confuses me.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    I don't see anything about saying "Hey, this guy is this color, lets get him on-board!"
    It's real tho. I sat on the interview panel at a former job as an LEO and all else equal, they hire/promote females/minority races over a white male any day. We had a female who had been on patrol for less than a year and promoted to Sergeant (shift sup) skipping Corporal over guys who had been there for years + had leadership roles in the military. Another female skipped right to Lieutenant from Patrol (a step up from Sgt). All the other male leadership worked their way up the ranks. It's hard to ignore that kind of stuff when you see it on a first hand basis.

    In a field where white males are a dime a dozen, the diversity initiative is pretty prominent.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    Does anyone else have as much trouble subnetting as I do?

    I can give you the hosts and networks of a cidr notation, but I can't do the network address part.
    are you aiming to get your CCNA? if so i would strongly recommend you get CCNA Routing and Switching Study Guide - Lammle, Todd. Helped me master subnetting.
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    Originally Posted by mattrunks View Post
    are you aiming to get your CCNA? if so i would strongly recommend you get CCNA Routing and Switching Study Guide - Lammle, Todd. Helped me master subnetting.
    booked helped me master subnetting

    Nah, just doing it for networking. I think I got it a little bit last night via a poster from Spiceworks. Idk, I think I'll always have a little trouble with it. For security/network security, I should be more focused on the tip layers of the OSI model anyways.
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    Yeah, /30 is definitely important considering we talk a lot about site-to-site connections. Ya know what it is, I know how to subnet. If you tell me any cidr notation and say "Tell me the hosts and networks in this" I'll be able to tell you. It's finding the broadcast that confuses me.
    Late response but here it is:

    Lets say you're given an IP address of 10.10.100.117 /26, and you need to find the network and broadcast in which that IP lives on.

    Here are my steps.

    1. Write out the entire powers of 2: (too lazy to write it out so i pulled an image from google)



    2. This is where you will need to know how IP addresses work and classful networks. Since /26 isn't classful you need to figure how many bits were borrowed. A /24 or 255.255.255.0 is classful and we can calculate that 2 bits were borrowed and added to /24.

    We can look in the chart above and read it from left to right. Since we are borrowing 2 bit we are only using column 8 and 7. The last bit you borrow (column 7) will tell us how large the network is. So column 7 tells us it has 64 IP but 2 have to be thrown out and given for the broadcast and network ID. What you're left with are 62 usable IPs.

    3.
    Each network is 64 IPs large according to the chart. Anything in between the network ID and broadcast are the usable IP's in that range.

    Network ID Broadcast

    10.10.100.0 ------- 10.10.100.63
    10.10.100.64 ------- 10.10.100.127
    10.10.100.128 ------ 10.10.100.191
    10.10.100.192 ------ 10.10.100.255

    So 10.10.100.117 lives on the 10.10.100.64 network and the broadcast is 10.10.100.127.
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    Originally Posted by SynapticCleft View Post
    Late response but here it is:

    Lets say you're given an IP address of 10.10.100.117 /26, and you need to find the network and broadcast in which that IP lives on.

    Here are my steps.

    1. Write out the entire powers of 2: (too lazy to write it out so i pulled an image from google)



    2. This is where you will need to know how IP addresses work and classful networks. Since /26 isn't classful you need to figure how many bits were borrowed. A /24 or 255.255.255.0 is classful and we can calculate that 2 bits were borrowed and added to /24.

    We can look in the chart above and read it from left to right. Since we are borrowing 2 bit we are only using column 8 and 7. The last bit you borrow (column 7) will tell us how large the network is. So column 7 tells us it has 64 IP but 2 have to be thrown out and given for the broadcast and network ID. What you're left with are 62 usable IPs.

    3.
    Each network is 64 IPs large according to the chart. Anything in between the network ID and broadcast are the usable IP's in that range.

    Network ID Broadcast

    10.10.100.0 ------- 10.10.100.63
    10.10.100.64 ------- 10.10.100.127
    10.10.100.128 ------ 10.10.100.191
    10.10.100.192 ------ 10.10.100.255

    So 10.10.100.117 lives on the 10.10.100.64 network and the broadcast is 10.10.100.127.

    Yeah, guess I just need more work on it. It's just not clicking, lol. Or maybe it's Sunday so I'm not paying attention to it. I'll re-read that tomorrow when it's Monday lol.
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    Originally Posted by lnvictus View Post
    VLSM subnetting is a bish and you gotta keep on top it because you will forget how to do with without regular practice. I sorta did.

    Yeah, I don't really think subnetting is for me lol. In the real world you use a subnet calculator anyways. I'm not planning on getting my CCNA or anything anyways.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    Yeah, guess I just need more work on it. It's just not clicking, lol. Or maybe it's Sunday so I'm not paying attention to it. I'll re-read that tomorrow when it's Monday lol.
    Lol must be the Sunday funday kind of deal. Im probably not explaining everything since this is my shortcut method.

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    Originally Posted by SynapticCleft View Post
    Lol must be the Sunday funday kind of deal. Im probably not explaining everything since this is my shortcut method.

    Here is a good in depth write up about this with videos on the bottom:
    http://www.danscourses.com/CCNA-2/vlsm-and-cidr.html

    I get it to a certain extent. For some reason, it's just not FULLY sticking. I'm trying to force myself to learn it, idk. In the real world you use subnet calculators anyways, lol.

    I might just pick up a CCENT book. Idk, I'm just stressed right now. I was a Sysadmin and really enjoyed it. Now all of a sudden my job wants to move me to the SOC because we got down-sized in the one department. So now I have to learn all this new chit that I'm simply not use to.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    Yeah, I don't really think subnetting is for me lol. In the real world you use a subnet calculator anyways. I'm not planning on getting my CCNA or anything anyways.
    Yeah, if it weren't for subnet calculators I'd be up sh!t's creek, I remember it being the only thing I hated about my networking classes.

    That being said, I've whipped out a subnet calculator less than 5 times in my entire career.
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    Originally Posted by Ace Thedics View Post
    Yeah, if it weren't for subnet calculators I'd be up sh!t's creek, I remember it being the only thing I hated about my networking classes.

    That being said, I've whipped out a subnet calculator less than 5 times in my entire career.

    Because you do it on paper? Or because you barely see yourself subnetting in general? You felt okay with networking even though you didn't know subnetting?
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    Because you do it on paper? Or because you barely see yourself subnetting in general? You felt okay with networking even though you didn't know subnetting?
    Never had an application for it, never needed to do it. If it ever came up it was because I was assisting a client with a product deployment and they had already specified ranges, etc. In fact, with things like product deployments you pretty much never just deploy based off of networks anyway, usually endpoint based.

    Anyway, my new job is starting very shortly and I have to admit, I don't like the idea of working from home 90% of the time.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    I get it to a certain extent. For some reason, it's just not FULLY sticking. I'm trying to force myself to learn it, idk. In the real world you use subnet calculators anyways, lol.

    I might just pick up a CCENT book. Idk, I'm just stressed right now. I was a Sysadmin and really enjoyed it. Now all of a sudden my job wants to move me to the SOC because we got down-sized in the one department. So now I have to learn all this new chit that I'm simply not use to.
    Yea it's true you don't use it I even have a cheat sheet on my desk lol.

    However it's good to know the basics and how to identify valid IP's on a network on the fly.
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    Originally Posted by Ace Thedics View Post
    Never had an application for it, never needed to do it. If it ever came up it was because I was assisting a client with a product deployment and they had already specified ranges, etc. In fact, with things like product deployments you pretty much never just deploy based off of networks anyway, usually endpoint based.

    Anyway, my new job is starting very shortly and I have to admit, I don't like the idea of working from home 90% of the time.
    How come man?
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    Originally Posted by SynapticCleft View Post
    Yea it's true you don't use it I even have a cheat sheet on my desk lol.

    However it's good to know the basics and how to identify valid IP's on a network on the fly.
    True. Hopefully it'll just start coming to me once I start seeing it at work.
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    Originally Posted by jerzyfit View Post
    True. Hopefully it'll just start coming to me once I start seeing it at work.
    You'll get use to the common ones in about a month. After a month in the NOC I figured out the subnet masks on the fly when I was just given a cidr.
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    How come man?
    I've been working in offices forever, heck, I didn't even really like the times where I worked a week at home. Just never really feels like I'm "at work".
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