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    This is so blatantly planned by the government it's crazy, they aren't even hiding it anymore.

    If Syria rebels ACTUALLY stole ELEVEN COMMERCIAL JETS there would already be UAV's and fighter jets blowing those things up. NATO would INSTANTLY take action against that and drop a some hellfire on that airport.
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    we could so easily disable that airport and all 11 planes with one bomber. Why not call up Libya and be like "we can bomb these planes to hell right?". Then again, Libya would probably tell us they don't want our help.
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    I agree with just about everyone in this thread; I don't have the tiniest doubt if these DO hit anywhere, it's because the government ALLOWED it
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    Originally Posted by rtljmc17 View Post
    LMAO. You really think air traffic control wont notice 11 planes with no Squawk codes or filed flight plans heading into heavily controlled european airspace, well before they even get a chance to make it to the UK.

    Please, the french and brits would have Eurofighter Typhoons scrabbled to intercept the jets while they were still over open water.

    Not to mention you need PILOTS, you really think a bunch of rebels will be able to control a civilian aircraft through engine start, push back, taki and then take off, climb, set course and cruise.
    Please tell us more about this foreign concept of "taki"...

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    I'm very concerned about you becoming a pilot if you don't have the manual dexterity or precision to distinguish between "k" & "x" on a conventional keypad / keyboard.

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    lmao. ISIS pilot training camp.

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    Originally Posted by SadBoys View Post
    Yeah right, if your average civilian can follow every airplane in the air worldwide from a commercial internet site, I am quite sure the number 1 military in the world can do much more. They know about everything that's going on, nothing can go unseen and nothing will enter USA unless they want it. Just another propaganda
    They wouldn't even shoot down the planes on 911 AFTER they KNEW for a fact they were hijacked and what was going to happen with them.....Don't overestimate our government. Nobody is going to protect your family but you.

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    Originally Posted by FrontDoublePie View Post
    They wouldn't even shoot down the planes on 911 AFTER they KNEW for a fact they were hijacked and what was going to happen with them.....Don't overestimate our government. Nobody is going to protect your family but you
    Wait what? So you're saying they should have shot down and killed hundreds of Americans because of what might happen? In which case you'd still be saying you can't overestimate our government, because they're that brutal
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    Originally Posted by Stealth12 View Post
    I agree with just about everyone in this thread; I don't have the tiniest doubt if these DO hit anywhere, it's because the government ALLOWED it

    this, another 9/11 style attack will allow them to strip away the rest of our freedoms in the name of security
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    They wont let any airliners hit any buildings.

    Wouldn't want the world to see what would actually happen if they did...
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    Originally Posted by kingskipper View Post
    this, another 9/11 style attack will allow them to strip away the rest of our freedoms in the name of security
    This, repped
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    Originally Posted by protocol96 View Post
    I am starting to feel the world was safer with Saddam and Gaddafi, they were just shouting their mouth off but keeping a tight reign on these nutjobs.
    Have heard a few people say this and that dictatorship is what those regions need to remain semi-stable.

    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Operable jetliners don't go missing

    Guarantee some U.S. government agency knows exactly where they are.
    Ok brah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Bo..._disappearance

    No government agency could ever locate that 727!

    Originally Posted by rtljmc17 View Post
    Radar doesnt zoom in on the tail number, the aircrafts transponder will have that information. you dont need to actually see the aircraft to identify it.
    Lol. Transponders are easily turned off as per 9/11 and MH370.

    Originally Posted by icemancl1 View Post
    Why join the military? To die for some rich cawksucker who sits behind and desk and is a billionaire? War is no longer about fighting for American ideals and our countries future or for our freedom. It is strictly for the control of power, resources, and money by the elite.

    War is strictly about control of resources and exploitation of the poor (our countries poor enlist in the military are sent off to die in a desert somewhere in the name of corporate profit)
    This. You are a smart cookie.

    Originally Posted by Ronnie87 View Post
    lmfao if anyone thinks a plane could enter European or American airspace without correct identification and not get shot down. Literally it is routine to scramble fighters at any aircraft that don't identify themselves correctly, even before they enter British airspace
    Were you even around in 2001 and 2005?

    Originally Posted by pakfa View Post
    Narrow Body jets don't have range long enough to fly extra long haul routes, it would be impossible to reach US and Australia non-stop, however UK remains at risk.
    Who said they were narrow body jets? They had A330s etc there, which are wide-body long-range jets.
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    The guard actually started equipping fighters with missiles on the ground during standby. Before 9/11 they were disarmed on the ground. They got the call to send them up when the attacks were taking place and realized they weren't even armed. They sent them up to literally ram the airliners and knock them out of the sky.
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    clearly they painted on giant wooden boards pictures of these planes and set them up in front of the plane while they towed the real planes away and no one was the wiser

    if it works in cartoons its gotta work IRL with 11 of them missing? lol
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    Originally Posted by RScary15 View Post
    Worlds becoming a scary place if 9/11 goes down again…

    Would probably just drop everything and join the military if it happens.

    Would want to help out this country. Srs

    But fuk Obama
    This. I feel fairly safe living in Ohio because there's nothing worthwhile here but it's like Damn if they have 80078 planes they can do a lot of damage. Luckily if they don't have a bunch of passengers on them though we can just blast those bitches out of the sky murica style
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    Originally Posted by NotANun21 View Post
    What is it with these fcking planes going missing

    We spend all this money building stealth fighters and it turns out that we wasted our time because as it turns out it's hard enough to find a 100m long plane even without all the stealth technology
    This, don't even need secret base, just tarps n chit.
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    Originally Posted by Stealth12 View Post
    Wait what? So you're saying they should have shot down and killed hundreds of Americans because of what might happen? In which case you'd still be saying you can't overestimate our government, because they're that brutal
    It would have been the unfortunate right call, and it has been speculated that may have been what happened in Pennsylvania.


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    WASHINGTON, Sept 16 (Reuters) - Immediately after the attacks on New York and Washington, President George W. Bush ordered U.S. military pilots to shoot down hijacked commercial airliners over Washington if they did not divert, Vice President Dick Cheney said on Sunday.

    "The president made the decision ... that if the plane would not divert, if they wouldn't pay any attention to instructions to move away from the city, as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to take them out," Cheney told NBC's "Meet the Press" program.

    "People say that's a horrendous decision to make. Well it is," Cheney said.

    But he said the United States "absolutely" would have been justified to act on those orders if it could have prevented the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon outside Washington that left more than 5,000 dead or missing.

    "You've got an airplane full of American citizens, civilians, captured by terrorists and are you going to, in fact, shoot it down, obviously, and kill all those Americans aboard?" Cheney said.

    "Well, you have to ask yourself, if we had had combat air patrol up over New York and we'd had the opportunity to take down the two aircraft that hit the World Trade Center, would we have been justified in doing that? I think, absolutely, we would have."

    "As it turned out, we did not have to execute on that authorization," Cheney said. "But there were a few moments when we thought we might."

    Cheney did not say exactly when the president issued the orders to shoot down any planes that were not responding.

    Pentagon spokesman Adm. Craig Quigley said the rules that govern U.S. military pilots' actions had been reviewed since Tuesday's attacks but declined to discuss any changes.

    "Our pilots are very thoroughly briefed on the rules of engagement. Our air crews had been given -- and continue to be given -- specific rules of engagement as to how they are to handle themselves in the air," he said.

    The nation's military air defense command received word from the Federal Aviation Administration that a hijacked airliner was heading toward Washington 13 minutes before it hit the Pentagon, a senior defense official told Reuters.

    Two F-16 fighter jets were scrambled immediately in response to the FAA warning. They took off from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia, about 130 miles south of the Pentagon, 10 minutes later, at 9:35 a.m. Three minutes after they made it into the air the hijacked American Airlines Boeing 757 crashed into the U.S. military headquarters.

    Cheney said the U.S. military had in effect implemented a "flying combat air patrol" over Washington, putting up F-16 fighter jets, AWACS radar planes and tanker aircraft.

    It would be up to Bush to decide if that policy would be made permanent, Cheney said.

    He noted he had strongly urged Bush, who was in Florida at the time of the attacks, to delay his return to Washington because the situation was so uncertain.

    Bush flew to a military base in Louisiana and then another in Nebraska under tight security and near total secrecy on Tuesday as the White House scrambled to protect him after the attacks.

    Flying at times with a fighter at each wingtip, Bush's Air Force One aircraft later on Tuesday took him back to Washington, where he spoke to the nation on television as the government tried to keep him safe using combat troops, an armored vehicle and an underground bunker.

    Cheney described the decision to authorize a shoot-down of hijacked commercial airliners as "the toughest decision" made by the administration the day of the attacks.

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    That's exactly what they called for. One airplane full of people vs. thousands on the ground. It sounds terrible but it's true
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