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    this is the So Cal branch of the CA Militia..http://www.********.com/S.C.S.M.militia

    have you seen these? it would be sick to train with them

    i forgot what i said but i got a lot of chit for correcting some dude on this video lol. guy was suggesting that these folks should be shooting in the woods and not in urban environments because russians bomb cities and everybody would flee to the woods they know nothing about, shoot less because 5.56 is master race .22 caliber death round and 1 bullet is good enough and that targets dont shoot back so logically should just be shooting things that shoot back. basically saying that anybody who shoots at this level is not gaining anything but just wannabe soldiers. im sure he was tier 1 operator LRRP company SEAL team 10 101st division SOCOM regimints huehure



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    Originally Posted by Brandon211 View Post
    this is the So Cal branch of the CA Militia..http://www.********.com/S.C.S.M.militia

    have you seen these? it would be sick to train with them



    This is a perfect example of why the government should fear its citizens, not the other way around. These guys are more proficient than a lot of LE and soldiers.
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    A shout out to Troy. I am sure everyone here knows about their great products. I have had a set of folding battlesights for a few years and during my last PCS move I lost one of the rail nuts for one of them. I reached out to Troy to let them know and they asked for my address and got the piece in the mail for me. Not a big deal, but they could easily have charged something for it.

    Edit: Having not purchased anything from Troy since 2008 (a pair of battlesights) I was unaware of any issues with the hiring practices of the company. Hopefully at some point in the future they correct their policies and release a statement that meets the requirements for those they have offended.
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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    A shout out to Troy. I am sure everyone here knows about their great products. I have had a set of folding battlesights for a few years and during my last PCS move I lost one of the rail nuts for one of them. I reached out to Troy to let them know and they asked for my address and got the piece in the mail for me. Not a big deal, but they could easily have charged something for it.
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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    A shout out to Troy. I am sure everyone here knows about their great products. I have had a set of folding battlesights for a few years and during my last PCS move I lost one of the rail nuts for one of them. I reached out to Troy to let them know and they asked for my address and got the piece in the mail for me. Not a big deal, but they could easily have charged something for it.
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    Originally Posted by blumpkin415 View Post
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    Is Relentless a fan of Troy?

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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    A shout out to Troy. I am sure everyone here knows about their great products. I have had a set of folding battlesights for a few years and during my last PCS move I lost one of the rail nuts for one of them. I reached out to Troy to let them know and they asked for my address and got the piece in the mail for me. Not a big deal, but they could easily have charged something for it.
    Srsly fuk Troy.


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    Originally Posted by hutch1999 View Post
    Srsly fuk Troy.


    The owner never apologized for hiring anti-freedom woman and child killers.
    Ah, must have missed that. Just googled it and assumed you meant Ruby Ridge. I see that they hired him as a spokesman in 2013, bad form.

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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    Is Relentless a fan of Troy?
    Yep. Even has their stickers on his semisubmersible barge house

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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    Ah, must have missed that. Just googled it and assumed you meant Ruby Ridge. I see that they hired him as a spokesman in 2013, bad form.

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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    Ah, must have missed that. Just googled it and assumed you meant Ruby Ridge. I see that they hired him as a spokesman in 2013, bad form.
    I was unaware of Troy shennanigans up until recently also. I dont own any of their products and dont plan on purchasing anything new or used in the future


    I did unknowingly buy their carbine from dicks back during that whole fiasco and ended up selling it 3 months later once the panic hit.
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    Originally Posted by hutch1999 View Post
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...oy-industries/


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    I bought my stuff back in 2008 and haven't had a need to purchase anything from them since. Interesting decision from them considering the bulk of their market, I wonder how much it has hurt them.

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    I was unaware of Troy shennanigans up until recently also. I dont own any of their products and dont plan on purchasing anything new or used in the future
    I have the pair of battlesights that have/had been the gold standard for folding sights. I guess I figured with "Troy Rails" in the subject line people were still fans, as I am sure lots of people still are (evidently Relentless). Anyway, I apologize if I offended anyone, the actions at Ruby Ridge are important to me as well.

    On another note, didn't a different company hire some of the parties from Ruby Ridge as a spokesman earlier last decade and it created a ****-storm?

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    Is Relentless a fan of Troy?
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    Originally Posted by JBjunior View Post
    I have the pair of battlesights that have/had been the gold standard for folding sights. I guess I figured with "Troy Rails" in the subject line people were still fans, as I am sure lots of people still are (evidently Relentless). Anyway, I apologize if I offended anyone, the actions at Ruby Ridge are important to me as well.

    On another note, didn't a different company hire some of the parties from Ruby Ridge as a spokesman earlier last decade and it created a ****-storm?
    Troy Rails is in the title because during the course of last thread Troy had a sale for something like 55% off their products due to an error in coupon stacking. Relentless bought a Troy Rail, causing several pages of posts.

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    I bought my stuff back in 2008 and haven't had a need to purchase anything from them since. Interesting decision from them considering the bulk of their market, I wonder how much it has hurt them.
    The majority of the online communities are aware.

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    And dead women and children
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Troy Rails is in the title because during the course of last thread Troy had a sale for something like 55% off their products due to an error in coupon stacking. Relentless bought a Troy Rail, causing several pages of posts.
    Ah, thanks for the information.

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    This is a perfect example of why the government should fear its citizens, not the other way around. These guys are more proficient than a lot of LE and soldiers.
    Indeed. These guys are far more proficient than any regular patrol cop and I bet they could give many SWAT teams a run for their money. Wish I had even a fireteam size group to train with. They could do some serious battle drills.
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    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post
    Indeed. These guys are far more proficient than any regular patrol cop and I bet they could give many SWAT teams a run for their money. Wish I had even a fireteam size group to train with. They could do some serious battle drills.
    How does a 4 man team clear a room properly?

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    Originally Posted by Brandon211 View Post
    How does a 4 man team clear a room properly?
    Step 1: Throw a Glock in the room
    Step 2: Wait for it to blow up
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    Originally Posted by Brandon211 View Post
    How does a 4 man team clear a room properly?
    It's actually very simple and can be done very quickly once you get it down. The number one man is never wrong and dictates the flow of the team. You also typically won't clear a room with more than a fireteam.

    7-196. On the signal, the team enters through the entry point (or breach). As the team members move to their points of domination, they engage all threats or hostile targets in sequence in their sector. The direction each man moves should not be preplanned unless the exact room layout is known. Each man should, however, go in a direction opposite the man in front of him (Figure 7-11). For example:

    - #1 Man. The #1 man enters the room and eliminates any immediate threat. He can move left or right, moving along the path of least resistance to a point of domination—one of the two corners and continues down the room to gain depth.

    - #2 Man. The #2 man enters almost simultaneously with the first and moves in the opposite direction, following the wall. The #2 man must clear the entry point, clear the immediate threat area, and move to his point of domination.

    - #3 Man. The #3 man simply moves in the opposite direction of the #2 man inside the room, moves at least 1 meter from the entry point, and takes a position that dominates his sector.

    - #4 Man. The #4 man moves in the opposite direction of the #3 man, clears the doorway by at least 1 meter, and moves to a position that dominates his sector.

    7-197. Once the room is cleared, the team leader may order some team members to move deeper into the room overwatched by the other team members. The team leader must control this action. In addition to dominating the room, all team members are responsible for identifying possible loopholes and mouseholes in the ceiling, walls, and floor. Cleared rooms should be marked IAW unit SOP.
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    Thanks, that is the one.

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    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post
    It's actually very simple and can be done very quickly once you get it down. The number one man is never wrong and dictates the flow of the team. You also typically won't clear a room with more than a fireteam.

    7-196. On the signal, the team enters through the entry point (or breach). As the team members move to their points of domination, they engage all threats or hostile targets in sequence in their sector. The direction each man moves should not be preplanned unless the exact room layout is known. Each man should, however, go in a direction opposite the man in front of him (Figure 7-11). For example:

    - #1 Man. The #1 man enters the room and eliminates any immediate threat. He can move left or right, moving along the path of least resistance to a point of domination—one of the two corners and continues down the room to gain depth.

    - #2 Man. The #2 man enters almost simultaneously with the first and moves in the opposite direction, following the wall. The #2 man must clear the entry point, clear the immediate threat area, and move to his point of domination.

    - #3 Man. The #3 man simply moves in the opposite direction of the #2 man inside the room, moves at least 1 meter from the entry point, and takes a position that dominates his sector.

    - #4 Man. The #4 man moves in the opposite direction of the #3 man, clears the doorway by at least 1 meter, and moves to a position that dominates his sector.

    7-197. Once the room is cleared, the team leader may order some team members to move deeper into the room overwatched by the other team members. The team leader must control this action. In addition to dominating the room, all team members are responsible for identifying possible loopholes and mouseholes in the ceiling, walls, and floor. Cleared rooms should be marked IAW unit SOP.
    Thanks brah, that really did make sense. But, if you look at the vid at 1:05 why doesn't the first man in take out the threat at 12?
    Vid also says they're 10th Mountain, dis you?


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    Originally Posted by Brandon211 View Post
    Thanks brah, that really did make sense. But, if you look at the vid at 1:05 why doesn't the first man in take out the threat at 12?
    Vid also says they're 10th Mountain, dis you?

    Path of least resistance. The door swung to the right, making the route to the left the easiest route to take. He's not necessarily supposed to take the threat that's at the 12 of the room, but his 12. Room structure (like corner door) dictates this as well. I was in Astan when that video was posted, not me lol.
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