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    Originally Posted by tothemaxwell View Post
    weed is better in terms of killing your natural test production and getting fat.
    Completely unfounded statement.
    Absolutely untrue.
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    Originally Posted by LordGryn View Post
    relax and enjoy - that is some advice ill take with pleasure

    hahaha and good point about some of the boys not being of legal age (im 20 but i live in Europe!!)

    I guess a lot of it has to do with how far you want to take your bodybuilding too. I used to party on the weekends from 17-22, but then it just got old and pointless. It was like why the hell am I doing this? I train too damn hard and eat too good to go F it all up with drinking alcohol. Once I stopped drinking, the progress I began to make and am still making will never let me go back. I still made gains when I drank, but no where near what they could've been. This is just what I want out of bodybuilding, I want to be the best that I can possibly be. Sure I might go out a night a week, but I don't have a drop of alcohol. It just does too many negative things to the hard working bodybuilder. Anyways though, to answer the question the other's posts pretty much gave you some goods...keep that water intake up, and what I always did was downed a protein drink as soon as I was done drinking.
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    **** it just smoke crack your way better off....wtf



    drink more water than usual you will be all set. it wont have any negative affect if you keep water uptake higher than usual and if your getting wasted dont take creatine until you can control drinking if its one night drink it up no biggie. good luck brother
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    Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    even though weed is not not jsut a bunch of empty calories? hell when was the last time someone got stoned ****ed some skank and caught an STD? or got stoned and drove off the road and totaled their car driving into a tree at 100mph?
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    what if u drink consistently every night. like 1-2 beers a night, but almost everynight..?
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    Creatine & Alcohol

    Interesting points -

    I'm relatively new to body building having just taken it up seriously at the beginning of this year. Always been scrawny with a metabolism that'll burn off the biggest meal just walking up a flight of stairs.

    Having taken a break from any supplementation at all I have just started on the creatine loading phase this week and got pretty drunk on a couple of occassions. From what I've read of protein synthesis it seems that this will essentially counter any positive effects the creatine may have had - not to mention put extra strain on live/kidneys already felt from creatine supplementation alone?

    Anyone had really successful weight gain on creatine, just started the course and have been 61-2kg for the last year and nothing seems to help me put the mass on!

    More importantly... do I really have to cut out alcohol completely to see any positive results?!
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    Originally Posted by biggysmalls324 View Post
    haha i love when people say grow up and cut alcohol out because your gains are gonna be hindered real bad. Yes your gains will be effected but very slightly. When i go out to eat i always see 240lb bodybuilder guys getting smashed at the bars doesn't seem to mess up their gains. On friday night i had half a bottle of brandy while on creatine. Before going to bed i drank 1 liter of water and my night shake. Every time i drink i make sure to bring a couple bags of peanuts with me and eat them throughout the night. When I woke up in the morning i was the same weight that my morning weight was the last morning. Just portion your alcohol with water and it will hardly effect any gains.
    +1 I've tried to cut back drinking as well. I try to just drink one night on the weekend and knock back 6 beers. I was thinking the same thing I see huge guys drinking at the bar all the time and they don't seem to be worried.
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    I think it isn't so bad if you limit your drinks just to beer and pace yourself. The great thing about beer is that it has a low amount of alcohol compared to water. As long as you aren't slamming them and giving your body a change to metabolize the alcohol as fast or faster than you're consuming it. So it's better to drink light beer because your body can spend more time burning the calories from the alcohol instead of the grain, or "liquid bread", as I like to call it. Definitely stay away from shots, bombs and mixed drinks.
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    two years ago i didnt drink for a full year even getting pressured by my friends who get wasted once or twice a week... it was tough to stay away but i did. my gains were huge. now having been in the gym and following the same routine and drinking every weekend my gains are not nearly as noticable im more less maintaining... going one step forward during the week and then takin one step back on the weekend... stupid? yes. i know
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    Originally Posted by solidmofo View Post
    two years ago i didnt drink for a full year even getting pressured by my friends who get wasted once or twice a week... it was tough to stay away but i did. my gains were huge. now having been in the gym and following the same routine and drinking every weekend my gains are not nearly as noticable im more less maintaining... going one step forward during the week and then takin one step back on the weekend... stupid? yes. i know
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    2. your cerum CP levels will still be boosted regardless of alcohol consumption and therefore shouldn't be a burden. You're just making excuses.
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    Originally Posted by solidmofo View Post
    two years ago i didnt drink for a full year even getting pressured by my friends who get wasted once or twice a week... it was tough to stay away but i did. my gains were huge. now having been in the gym and following the same routine and drinking every weekend my gains are not nearly as noticable im more less maintaining... going one step forward during the week and then takin one step back on the weekend... stupid? yes. i know
    i'm in yr position that you were in a year ago. sucks to say no to yr friends =(
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    Not a good idea, unless your gonna drink " lots " of water at the same time you drink the excessive alcohol. Other wise you will cramp up like a mother fcker. If your only drinking once in a while just skip the creatine that day. But if your a weekend warrior you might as well just not take it, or anything else for that matter until you can grow the fck up.


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    "until you can grow the fck up"... grow a dick you ***got.
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    Just took 5g of creatine with 50g of protien and 2 glasses of water, planning to have 2 beers max tonight... Looking cut. Had drinks last sat night too many felt like **** next day. Besides that been staying away from alcohol.
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    Originally Posted by NaturaLPumP View Post
    Not a good idea, unless your gonna drink " lots " of water at the same time you drink the excessive alcohol. Other wise you will cramp up like a mother fcker. If your only drinking once in a while just skip the creatine that day. But if your a weekend warrior you might as well just not take it, or anything else for that matter until you can grow the fck up.
    You won't cramp up like a mother****er. I drink once a week and I take Creatine. People will say you can't drink etc - if you lift bc you love lifting and to stay in shape enjoy your life go out and catch a buzz haw fun. Weight lifting isn't my life so I balance things out. Now if you compete you should probably count all the carbs and watch all bad stuff etc. Alcohol dehydrates you so you will be thirsty day after but I drink over a gallon daily anyways. Probably two after a night of beers
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    I see so much dumb stuff on the internet. Wow. If you go out and drink once a week it doesn't mess up all your gains that week. It doesn't kill your natural test levels. If you drink heavy daily alcohol isn't good. Don't be afraid to lift hard and enjoy a night out. Actually I have my best workouts 2 days after drinking. Again if your a roid user your livelihood depends on looks & bodybuilders that's different. Test levels come right back up for most people after that night and next day.
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    Originally Posted by jaw_belize View Post
    what if u drink consistently every night. like 1-2 beers a night, but almost everynight..?
    Then u will never catch a buzz lol.
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    Originally Posted by CodyK7 View Post
    +1 I've tried to cut back drinking as well. I try to just drink one night on the weekend and knock back 6 beers. I was thinking the same thing I see huge guys drinking at the bar all the time and they don't seem to be worried.
    Exactly actually I've made biggest gains when I have good amount of drinks once a week. It doesn't kill your hard work like so many believe. Depends how far you wanna take it I agree. I need balance in my life.
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    "Weekend warrior"

    All I'm saying is that I'm in college and this weekend warrior sh*t is stupid. If you're young and want to get drunk or tipsy you're not in the wrong. Also pointing out that I drink, and by drink I mean usually blacking out or close to it, 3 times a week and still have a pretty solid physique. Train hard and eat right and a beer isn't going to kill you. Yea pride on your body, but live a little.
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    Some of you guys are ridiculous. A night of drinking every now and then won't screw you up, let alone hinder the efficacy of creatine.
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    Originally Posted by NaturaLPumP View Post
    Not a good idea, unless your gonna drink " lots " of water at the same time you drink the excessive alcohol. Other wise you will cramp up like a mother fcker. If your only drinking once in a while just skip the creatine that day. But if your a weekend warrior you might as well just not take it, or anything else for that matter until you can grow the fck up.
    I just today never again Im hungover, dehydrated, sore and to make matters wore I take a multi creatine which has creatine ethyl ester so the creatine goes in your blood stream but the by product is ethanol so I dont know if it makes you more drunker but I wasn't sobering up at work today but Im about to down a gallon of Gatorade to hydrate and restore my electrolytes lost form alcohol. once I got drunk and took creatine & weight gainer because I had to go to work the next day that was an epic fail a ni**a puked at work that was embarrassing as F**k
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    Originally Posted by kobraman View Post
    I just today never again Im hungover, dehydrated, sore and to make matters wore I take a multi creatine which has creatine ethyl ester so the creatine goes in your blood stream but the by product is ethanol so I dont know if it makes you more drunker but I wasn't sobering up at work today but Im about to down a gallon of Gatorade to hydrate and restore my electrolytes lost form alcohol. once I got drunk and took creatine & weight gainer because I had to go to work the next day that was an epic fail a ni**a puked at work that was embarrassing as F**k
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    Originally Posted by NaturaLPumP View Post
    Not a good idea, unless your gonna drink " lots " of water at the same time you drink the excessive alcohol. Other wise you will cramp up like a mother fcker. If your only drinking once in a while just skip the creatine that day. But if your a weekend warrior you might as well just not take it, or anything else for that matter until you can grow the fck up.

    Ha! A bit easier to say when you live in Beaver Falls, PA, a town of 8k. I wouldn't go out on weekends there either, just not worth it... Taking yourself a bit too seriously bud.
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    I take creatine every day and drink excessively like 3 days a week. I'm in college and 21 haha. I have been doing it for 3 years and don't notice a difference, just drink water obviously!
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    All I'm saying is that I'm in college and this weekend warrior sh*t is stupid. If you're young and want to get drunk or tipsy you're not in the wrong. Also pointing out that I drink, and by drink I mean usually blacking out or close to it, 3 times a week and still have a pretty solid physique. Train hard and eat right and a beer isn't going to kill you. Yea pride on your body, but live a little.
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    If you're an excessive drinker [alcoholic], then you shouldn't be taking creatine. If you go out on occasion and drink with friends and have a little too much once in a while, then don't even worry about it. I didn't read the responses in this thread prior to posting out of laziness. So if this was already addressed, oh well.
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    Originally Posted by biggysmalls324 View Post
    haha i love when people say grow up and cut alcohol out because your gains are gonna be hindered real bad. Yes your gains will be effected but very slightly. When i go out to eat i always see 240lb bodybuilder guys getting smashed at the bars doesn't seem to mess up their gains. On friday night i had half a bottle of brandy while on creatine. Before going to bed i drank 1 liter of water and my night shake. Every time i drink i make sure to bring a couple bags of peanuts with me and eat them throughout the night. When I woke up in the morning i was the same weight that my morning weight was the last morning. Just portion your alcohol with water and it will hardly effect any gains.
    Why would you have to bring bags of peanuts with you ? I am curious to know. Thank you.
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