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    Eating over maintenance

    Typically, how many calories can you eat over maintenance without going up in BF%? I'm sick of cutting for now and would like to slow bulk for a month or two? I'll probably stay within 200 cals of maintenance. I shouldnt really gain any fat right?
    I'm 203, ~13.5%. 6'
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    There is no way to prevent fat gain while bulking unless you have outstanding genes or taking some sort of drug/hormone. Your best bet is to eat at a slight surplus, 10% above maintenance to be exact, but even then you will still put on a small amount of fat.
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    Originally Posted by lVlaKaVeLi View Post
    There is no way to prevent fat gain while bulking unless you have outstanding genes or taking some sort of drug/hormone. Your best bet is to eat at a slight surplus, 10% above maintenance to be exact, but even then you will still put on a small amount of fat.
    But will the muscle gains outrun the fat in proportion?
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    You can minimize fat gain but you can't prevent it. Just monitor your weight and gain slowly.
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    Originally Posted by GettinCutup View Post
    But will the muscle gains outrun the fat in proportion?
    The point of a slight surplus is to gain mostly muscle with minimal fat gain so yeah..
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    Originally Posted by GettinCutup View Post
    Typically, how many calories can you eat over maintenance without going up in BF%? I'm sick of cutting for now and would like to slow bulk for a month or two? I'll probably stay within 200 cals of maintenance. I shouldnt really gain any fat right?
    I'm 203, ~13.5%. 6'
    200 sounds reasonable. Ultimately though, it's up to experience to see how much your body can tolerate w/o getting fat
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    Originally Posted by jh4 View Post
    200 sounds reasonable. Ultimately though, it's up to experience to see how much your body can tolerate w/o getting fat
    he will gain nothing but fat with a 200 calorie surplus, there just isnt enough calories to make adaptations without sufficient nutrients, calories, etc...
    OP if you are going to bulk, a month to two is spinning your wheels, you will also need to eat at maintenance for a brief period depending on how long you were on a deficit. If you are 6 foot, id aim for 3/4 lb a week on average.

    cut another 5 lbs and then bulk for half a year.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    he will gain nothing but fat with a 200 calorie surplus, there just isnt enough calories to make adaptations without sufficient nutrients, calories, etc...
    OP if you are going to bulk, a month to two is spinning your wheels, you will also need to eat at maintenance for a brief period depending on how long you were on a deficit. If you are 6 foot, id aim for 3/4 lb a week on average.

    cut another 5 lbs and then bulk for half a year.
    Yeah, don't have to be an expert to know that is complete crap.
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    Originally Posted by GettinCutup View Post
    Yeah, don't have to be an expert to know that is complete crap.
    ok.
    Many people have tried to beat the system getting minimal calories over maintenance and end up wasting time. If you could do that you would stay lean year round and gain nothing but muscle. Good luck doing that naturally because it wont happen.
    i went from doing that garbage to gaining around 3/4 lb a week and noticed drastic recovery and actually adding muscle, adding weight to the bar a lot quicker, very low over maintenance is a waste of time.
    There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?
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    Originally Posted by Serpentarius View Post
    ok.
    Many people have tried to beat the system getting minimal calories over maintenance and end up wasting time. If you could do that you would stay lean year round and gain nothing but muscle. Good luck doing that naturally because it wont happen.
    i went from doing that garbage to gaining around 3/4 lb a week and noticed drastic recovery and actually adding muscle, adding weight to the bar a lot quicker, very low over maintenance is a waste of time.
    And many people have done it with great success. Besides, I'm not trying to bulk a lot, just taking a break from cutting and want to eat more.
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    If you were to do everything to the T, perfect diet, exercise etc. the most muscle you can gain in a year is around 20-25lbs plus 5-10lbs of fat. So eating clean for a bulk is the way to go.

    A lot of guys do dirty bulks thinking their gaining a Ton of muscle when in reality, their putting on more fat then anything. Result, taking a lot of time cutting to get rid of fat and to revile what little muscle you gained.
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