l-glutamine and 120g of protien a day high creatinine levels.

[RetroLegend]

Creatinine <=1.34 mg/dL 1.48
Glomerular filtration rate, nonAfrican American >=60 mL/min 55

I had this blood test done you guys know anything about this?

My Creatinine is high. is this bad?

[rhadam]

9 times out of 10, no. There are a lot of things that can skew that test, usually it's because you worked out too close to your test.

[Wolverine7613]

Serum or Urine Creatinine? Blood Pressure? Are you Diabetic? Eating a ton of meat?

[RetroLegend]

Serum or Urine Creatinine? Blood Pressure? Are you Diabetic? Eating a ton of meat?

Yea i eat a LOT of meat breakfest lunch and dinner no joke. I ate a huge meat meal 2 hours prior to the test.

SODIUM, SERUM - 140

Glucose, UA NEGATIVE NEGATIVE
Bilirubin, UA NEGATIVE mg/dL NEGATIVE
Ketones, UA 0 - 9 mg/dL 10
Specific gravity, UA 1.001 - 1.035 1.012
Hemoglobin,ur,ql NEGATIVE mg/dL NEGATIVE
pH, UA 4.5 - 8.0 5.5
Protein, UA NEGATIVE mg/dL NEGATIVE
Urobilinogen, UA 0.0 - 2.0 mg/dL <2.0
Nitrite, UA NEGATIVE mg/dL NEGATIVE
LEUKOCYTE ESTERASE, UA NEGATIVE Leu/ul NEGATIVE
Appearance, urine CLEAR CLEAR
Color, urine YELLOW YELLOW
Specimen source CLEAN

BP is 110 over 60

[DavidUnderhand]

Definitely interesting in this. I don't have my results anymore but long before I started working out or paying attention to nutrition my creatine levels were absurdly high according to tests. The doctor and my parents accused me of taking an insane amount of creaine daily, I never figured out what it was.

[RetroLegend]

ive been taking 10 - 12 g of l-glutimine a day

[RetroLegend]

Definitely interesting in this. I don't have my results anymore but long before I started working out or paying attention to nutrition my creatine levels were absurdly high according to tests. The doctor and my parents accused me of taking an insane amount of creaine daily, I never figured out what it was.

really ok, ive been looking into l-glutamine and have read it CAN raise creatine levels and can affect kidneys

[DavidUnderhand]

I've never taken any supplement (whey/casien aside) until creatine (3 months or so ago). In my case, it was not supplement related.

[RetroLegend]

I've never taken any supplement (whey/casien aside) until creatine (3 months or so ago). In my case, it was not supplement related.

hmm

[rhadam]

Supplemental glutamine does absolutely nothing for a bodybuilder, so think about that.

Here's a better response that hopefully closes this thread down for you:

High-ish levels of creatinine aren't abnormal for someone who uses creatine and eats large portions of meat. High creatinine levels are not automatically an issue. Your eGFR is above 60 so that's good, there shouldn't be anything to worry about. Kidney disfunction is not the result of eating a lot of meat or using creatine.

[DatMurse]

Supplemental glutamine does absolutely nothing for a bodybuilder, so think about that.

Here's a better response that hopefully closes this thread down for you:

High-ish levels of creatinine aren't abnormal for someone who uses creatine and eats large portions of meat. High creatinine levels are not automatically an issue. Your eGFR is above 60 so that's good, there shouldn't be anything to worry about. Kidney disfunction is not the result of eating a lot of meat or using creatine.

either way. GFR is not a way to properly determine kidney function, this is what went wrong with the original "protein is bad for you" study. Creatinine may be high in lifters. They can take a look at your BUN/creatinine clearance would be a better way to determine kidney function

[rhadam]

either way. GFR is not a way to properly determine kidney function, this is what went wrong with the original "protein is bad for you" study. Creatinine may be high in lifters. They can take a look at your BUN/creatinine clearance would be a better way to determine kidney function

GFR is indeed an accurate indicator of kidney function as it's not effected by supplements. BUN is good as well, not arguing that.

[RetroLegend]

this is the stuff i've been reading im going to stop the l-glutamine been taking 12 g a day for months.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/51...d-for-kidneys/

[rhadam]

this is the stuff i've been reading im going to stop the l-glutamine been taking 12 g a day for months.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/51...d-for-kidneys/

A: glutamine is useless for bodybuilding
B: you'd only need to stop if you have kidney issues

[RetroLegend]

A: glutamine is useless for bodybuilding
B: you'd only need to stop if you have kidney issues

what i've been reading is that it will cause kidney issues because my gfr in sep before i started taking it was a 92. and my creatine was a 1.26 only thing i changed was taking a lot of l-glutmine.

And yea i haven't noticed a lot only that my viens seem to pop a bit more then they used to.

[rhadam]

what i've been reading is that it will cause kidney issues because my gfr in sep before i started taking it was a 92. and my creatine was a 1.26 only thing i changed was taking a lot of l-glutmine.

And yea i haven't noticed a lot only that my viens seem to pop a bit more then they used to.

Dude, i'm going type this as sober as possible: glutamine, or any amino acid (creatine/proteins) DOES NOT CAUSE KIDNEY DAMAGE. If you still don't comprehend what i'm saying... i'm out.

[RetroLegend]

Dude, i'm going type this as sober as possible: glutamine, or any amino acid (creatine/proteins) DOES NOT CAUSE KIDNEY DAMAGE. If you still don't comprehend what i'm saying... i'm out.

I've read the opposite, including many many articles stating diets such as the Atkins diet can cause kidney stress. I'm not talking about irreversible damage I'm talking about stress.

[WonderPug]

I've read the opposite, including many many articles stating diets such as the Atkins diet can cause kidney stress. I'm not talking about irreversible damage I'm talking about stress.

Perhaps you should avoid reading the rants of folks who have no understanding of the topic they're writing about.

For a rational view on the subject, please see here.

[rhadam]

I've read the opposite, including many many articles stating diets such as the Atkins diet can cause kidney stress. I'm not talking about irreversible damage I'm talking about stress.

You obviously know more than i do. It's interesting you even bothered to ask a question here since you know more than the posters. Best of luck with your lifting and nutrition goals in 2014.

[RetroLegend]

You obviously know more than i do. It's interesting you even bothered to ask a question here since you know more than the posters. Best of luck with your lifting and nutrition goals in 2014.

been off l-glut for 3 days and feel better already going to go back in 3 weeks to get a recheck will post results. But i've been looking on other fourms were people were talking about it jacking there kidneys.

[health4life24]

been off l-glut for 3 days and feel better already going to go back in 3 weeks to get a recheck will post results. But i've been looking on other fourms were people were talking about it jacking there kidneys.

Quick question: Why is it you come onto the forums asking for advice and then try and prove to us that you know more than we do? You are looking for advice, yet when it is given to you it isn't sufficient enough?? You have been given some good advice in here and I suggest you utilize the links that people have given you and educate yourself on the topic.

[rhadam]

been off l-glut for 3 days and feel better already going to go back in 3 weeks to get a recheck will post results. But i've been looking on other fourms were people were talking about it jacking there kidneys.

You should get an IQ test while you're there.

[WonderPug]

been off l-glut for 3 days and feel better already going to go back in 3 weeks to get a recheck will post results. But i've been looking on other fourms were people were talking about it jacking there kidneys.

You've stopped eating protein???

[RetroLegend]

Got my test results back today last day I took L-Glut was the the day i posted this.

Creatinine <=1.34 mg/dL 1.22
Glomerular filtration rate, nonAfrican American >=60 mL/min >77
GLOMERULAR FILTRATION RATE - AFRICAN AMERICAN >=60 mL/min >60

Doctor said it was the l-glutimine that was irritating my kidneys

This is what i was taking jarrow l-glutamine powder
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formula...utamine+powder

was taking 10 - 12 grams a day.

was going to wait 3 weeks but i emailed him about the l-glut and he said stay off of it and wait a week for test. I'm sure some people can take it but not me.

[RetroLegend]

You should get an IQ test while you're there.

What more do you want moron. My kidney function has declined ever since i have been taking it. Within 7 days of being off of it my energy level is back up and my kidney function is restoring. If the l-glut wasn't affecting my kidneys then what else was it?

[rhadam]

Best of luck with your protein goals in 2014.

[RetroLegend]

Best of luck with your protein goals in 2014.

lol what bro science medical school did you go to.

[rhadam]

lol what bro science medical school did you go to.

School of Hard Knocks.

[RetroLegend]

School of Hard Knocks.

Everything I posted was true, and I got my advice from a Medical Doctor... How old are you, what's your background? My doctor told me he had 23 year old and a 27 year old come in for a kidney test both were off like mine, they had high creatine levels and a low gfr both stopped the creatine and both of there kidney tests normalized he said he didn't know a lot about l-glut but that it has been known to raise kidney levels and in powder form not water soluble...

Bro Science is dangerous bro... Good luck with your dying early goals of 2014!

[rhadam]

Everything I posted was true, and I got my advice from a Medical Doctor... How old are you, what's your background? My doctor told me he had 23 year old and a 27 year old come in for a kidney test both were off like mine, they had high creatine levels and a low gfr both stopped the creatine and both of there kidney tests normalized he said he didn't know a lot about l-glut but that it has been known to raise kidney levels and in powder form not water soluble...

Bro Science is dangerous bro... Good luck with your dying early goals of 2014!

I actually failed out of junior college but i did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.