***New, In-Depth X-Factor Directions

[G.W. Hayduke]

X-Factor

Directions: Take 1000mg daily for 50 days even on days you don't workout. Split up your dosage and take the largest dosage 1 hour before you weight train.

Typical Gains:

• 1-2 lbs average per week in lean muscle mass gains
• fat loss
• strength gains
• great pumps

Avoid: Omega 3's (flax/fish oil supplements), high olive oil use, high fish intake (try to limit to 2 servings per week), high peanut butter intake (including peanut butter in protein bars), milk thistle, CLA, NAC, Tylenol, aspirin, Ibuprofen, or other anti-inflammatory drugs/supplements while take X-Factor.

Where to Get Dietary Fats: The majority of dietary fat while using X-Factor should come from animal sources such as whole milk, cream, cheese, fatty beef, and dark poultry meat. Extra Virgin Coconut oil is also a superb choice of fat to use while on X-Factor.

Side Effects: Most commonly users may experience more than normal levels of soreness from workouts and/or oils skin/pimples.

Additional Info: Although every user will respond differently, most users experience the soreness as early as the end of week 1 with noticeable gains in the 2-3 week range. If you don't see results be the end of week 3, contact us so that we may review your diet more closely to see if there may be something interfering with the product. Fat loss is pretty significant so monitor your calories based on your goals and needs.

X-Factor does stack well with other products including vasodilators, creatine, and androgens. However, we do recommend that X-Factor be taken by itself if taking it for the first time. In this way, the user can more easily distinguish the benefits of the product. Typically, users who use X-Factor during PCT from a hormonal cycle will not see the 1-2 lbs per week gains due to suppressed testosterone levels. However, the product may be effective in helping maintain more of the gains than if going through PCT without it.

Does X-Factor Require PCT? NO! NO! NO! X-Factor is not a hormone and does not require any kind of PCT or liver supplements and will not suppress natural testosterone.

[Mr. Aries]

why do people get acne and oily skin from x factor use?

[BringnIt]

Inflammation.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Inflammation.

I think it's more because of increased AR density which leads to increased testosterone expression therefore more acne.

[Phosphate bond]

Fat loss is pretty significant so monitor your calories based on your goals and needs.

Yeah this is true.

This is probably one of the most misunderstood supplements on the market. **Some** of these effects I think are due to beta 2 agonist type stimulation (I've got lots of abstracts pointing this out) . It makes sense too because if you look at the people who don't synthesize arachidonic acid (diabetics) they have upregulated beta 2 receptors.

I also know that fish oil does the reverse and blocks/upregulates beta receptors.

Maybe this also explains the reduced endurance caused by too much omega 3 supplementation?

Interestingly, any beta 2 down-regulated state also tends to lead to inflammation. Coincidence or part of the mechanism?

P.S. Aeter, How are these recs any different by the way? (lol) Has the intake of fish been changed? (two times per week)

[kupsjon]

So i take it i shuld change the way i am taking it, i am currently taking 1 tab 4 times a day evenly spaced. Should i now take it 3 times a day as in 1x in the morning, 2x one hour before training and the 3rd dose 1x 1 hour before bed.

[Oz Enhanced]

thanks
my stack should come in a week
this saves me writing a post about it

[kupsjon]

Bump

[giltob]

Awesome, I can't wait to start a run of this in the new year...

[Mr. Aries]

aeter, you seem to be a big fan of diesel test + x factor..

is this still correct or did you find a problem with stacking the two?

[Big_A]

Any stance on Chondroitin/Glucosamine/MSM and X-factor?

[Ephedra]

Thx for the directs man.

[Slimshady01]

I should have this stuff at my door today,

question though.

i am 183 lbs so i am going to take 3 tabs a day correct?

I will take 2 an hour before workout?

What time of the day should i take the last one?

[God In Ruins]

Interesting stuff. Got a bottle for free from a friend of mine at work. Plan on stacking it with Storm starting next week... We'll see what happens.

[G.W. Hayduke]

So i take it i shuld change the way i am taking it, i am currently taking 1 tab 4 times a day evenly spaced. Should i now take it 3 times a day as in 1x in the morning, 2x one hour before training and the 3rd dose 1x 1 hour before bed.

Continue taking 4 caps. Just take the biggest dose 1 houre preworkout.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Yeah this is true.

This is probably one of the most misunderstood supplements on the market. **Some** of these effects I think are due to beta 2 agonist type stimulation (I've got lots of abstracts pointing this out) . It makes sense too because if you look at the people who don't synthesize arachidonic acid (diabetics) they have upregulated beta 2 receptors.

I also know that fish oil does the reverse and blocks/upregulates beta receptors.

Maybe this also explains the reduced endurance caused by too much omega 3 supplementation?

Interestingly, any beta 2 down-regulated state also tends to lead to inflammation. Coincidence or part of the mechanism?

P.S. Aeter, How are these recs any different by the way? (lol) Has the intake of fish been changed? (two times per week)

Interesting.

The recs haven't really changed. Just consider this basically what the X-Factor label would say if it had the room.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Any stance on Chondroitin/Glucosamine/MSM and X-factor?

It's fine. But only those, no other joint supps are allowed.

[G.W. Hayduke]

aeter, you seem to be a big fan of diesel test + x factor..

is this still correct or did you find a problem with stacking the two?

I haven't had a problem stacking the two.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Interesting stuff. Got a bottle for free from a friend of mine at work. Plan on stacking it with Storm starting next week... We'll see what happens.

Remember, 1 bottles only lasts for 25 days... only long enough to just BEGIN to see the effects. You should pick up another bottle to do a full 50 day cycle.

[G.W. Hayduke]

I should have this stuff at my door today,

question though.

i am 183 lbs so i am going to take 3 tabs a day correct?

I will take 2 an hour before workout?

What time of the day should i take the last one?

No, take a full gram... 4 capsules.

[Younglifter16]

thanks for the thread, simple yet what people need to know

the only thing that bugs me is that you need 2 bottles, and it is a bit expensive (even at other cheaper sights), i like that
90% of the people lost fat and gain muscle at the same time though !

edit: I was looking around and the cheapeast I found it for was 45 bucks (you need 2), but you still have to pay shipping, and if your going to do that, then you might as well order from BB so you atleast get a shirt, 100 bucks really turns me off though

[Younglifter16]

I have a question, I remember reading something like you need to increase protein intake while on x-factor since it will increase protein synthesis a fair deal, Im pretty sure this was about x-factor although I could be wrong. Any thoughts Aeternitatis?

Thanks

[G.W. Hayduke]

I have a question, I remember reading something like you need to increase protein intake while on x-factor since it will increase protein synthesis a fair deal, Im pretty sure this was about x-factor although I could be wrong. Any thoughts Aeternitatis?

Thanks

Yes, you should increase overall caloric intake (unless you're cutting) with an emphasis on protein intake.

It may sound expensive, but remember that it lasts 50 days and it is very effective. This isn't some simple pump product... it is the real deal (if you catch my drift).

[391rippy]

It's fine. But only those, no other joint supps are allowed.

how about cissus? i was thinking about using bone boost

[baseballplayr71]

Hmm has anyone asked if X-factor and Red Acid would work together or are the fats in RA too many of the wrong fats in it?

[BiggJohn]

Would bulk AA work just as well as X-factor? Sourcing is not an issue for me as someone in my family works for Kraft foods.

[RepubCarrier]

any contraindictions with ALA or green tea?

[G.W. Hayduke]

Would bulk AA work just as well as X-factor? Sourcing is not an issue for me as someone in my family works for Kraft foods.

Kraft and AA? I would;ve never put the two toegtehr.

Yes, its the same thing. But take it to heart when I say AA is absolutely foul. I mean to the point of not being able to consume it unless it is capped.

[G.W. Hayduke]

any contraindictions with ALA or green tea?

Green tea: I doubt it
ALA: yes, for now.

[RepubCarrier]

Green tea: I doubt it
ALA: yes, for now.

ok, add ALA to your 1st post (for now), I'm sure someone else will ask you this in the future.

just out of curiosity, why the "for now"? Are you and Bill discussing this?