**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION

[stockbruh]

You could have bought dividend stocks, which will pay better than a MMF and calls on NVDA lol.

You are carrying a lot of risk as there a good chance NVDA goes a lot lower than a lot higher.

Praying for you.

Nah bro he is making gains give him his due, and he posted screenshot to back it up

[stockbruh]

It's completely mad. So disconnected from reality.

Either things are about to get ugly with a big rug pull, or this is just the new normal....

Won’t be a rug pull in an election year

[Abzu]

Nah bro he is making gains give him his due, and he posted screenshot to back it up

I have and I hope he wins, was just trying to make him aware, I'm holding calls on NVDA so it's in my interest that he win lol.

[NestBrah]

I would rep you with the number but I need to spread some around before I rep you again lol.

Hahahaha yes please do. Always enjoy your analysis.

You see a crash coming soon?

[Abzu]

Hahahaha yes please do. Always enjoy your analysis.

You see a crash coming soon?

Yes.

Anyone looking at celcius? It’s been beat up the last month

Did you make a move on CELH when it went to ~$62?

Targeting ~60-62 to sell puts and buy calls.

[NestBrah]

Yes.



Did you make a move on CELH when it went to ~$62?

Give me your approx number and approx time frame please. Very curious.

[Abzu]

Give me your approx number and approx time frame please. Very curious.

I don't want to post it but I guess I can give a time frame so I'll say it should have bottomed no later than 07/31 if it is going to happen, if it doesn't then I would expect it to go to ~5750 and crash instead of correct.

[stockbruh]

Yes.



Did you make a move on CELH when it went to ~$62?

No I had to double down my amc position to get my cost basis down so I can get out , now holding 400 shares at $5.25

[NestBrah]

I don't want to post it but I guess I can give a time frame so I'll say it should have bottomed no later than 07/31 if it is going to happen, if it doesn't then I would expect it to go to ~5750 and crash instead of correct.

Thanks for the quick response man. Crazy you see a bottom in literally just 50 days. What do you see as the main catalyst for such a sudden dip?

I remember you saying in previous threads you see it dipping to mid 4000s, so that would be a 1000 point drop from here!

[kusok]

Bought 200p at market close and I'm ready to dbl down if AAPL wants ~210 tomorrow lol.

you guys have the balls to bet against big Tech, AI, and innovation/disruption? I would never buy puts on any of these companies even if they had a PE of 1 million 100% srs.

[usersignup2]

bros acknowledging their current plays are red.

not every trade is gonna be a winner so kudos to you guys for keeping it real. Hope your trade turns green.

[GeneralSerpant]

Soundhound just bought off all their debt.

[RobParks2M]

bros acknowledging their current plays are red.

not every trade is gonna be a winner so kudos to you guys for keeping it real. Hope your trade turns green.

Short term options are cheap for a reason and if your timing isn’t 100% perfect you’ll be looking at a red position at least for awhile. Just gotta hope the big wins balance out the losses you take. So far I’ve had some luck. Bought a NVDA $120p for Friday this morning. I thought maybe with fed announcing they aren’t doing a cut till next year or maybe 1 at the end of the year the markets panic and sell off overnight. Paid $40 so we will see if I’m right otherwise oh well. Looks like I’m wrong thus far.

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

you guys have the balls to bet against big Tech, AI, and innovation/disruption? I would never buy puts on any of these companies even if they had a PE of 1 million 100% srs.

Some people would rather get lucky and be "right" than to make money.

[kusok]

Elon: hey guys, how about this? If you invest in Tesla, I will help you 10x your money in a few years, so for every thousand dollars you will make $10,000, and if I achieve that you will pay me 10%, 1k. Sounds good?

Investors: Oh my ****ing God, that sounds amazing, yes!


A few years later…


Elon: Hey guys, I 10x’ed your money, can I have that 10% now?

Investors: 10% is too much, nobody should get paid that.

Elon: wot

[RobParks2M]

Elon: hey guys, how about this? If you invest in Tesla, I will help you 10x your money in a few years, so for every thousand dollars you will make $10,000, and if I achieve that you will pay me 10%, 1k. Sounds good?

Investors: Oh my ****ing God, that sounds amazing, yes!


A few years later…


Elon: Hey guys, I 10x’ed your money, can I have that 10% now?

Investors: 10% is too much, nobody should get paid that.

Elon: wot

This is so fuking true lmao “Sure you can pay yourself $1 a year and if you manage to double then quadruple, then x10 our shares you can unlock a huge prize for yourself otherwise you can stick with your $1.” *does it and makes them money* wat. No OnE ShOuLd MaKe ThAt MuCh MoNeY

[Abzu]

you guys have the balls to bet against big Tech, AI, and innovation/disruption? I would never buy puts on any of these companies even if they had a PE of 1 million 100% srs.

Some people would rather get lucky and be "right" than to make money.

Lol.

BROS, please, stop it and get some help.

I tried to be that help but what can you do?

Lol yup, I'm getting crushed right now =[ but I haven't dbl'd yet, I'm looking for 220 now.

Turns out the AAPL puts were a hedge to my NVDA calls lol =] <3.

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AAPL went from 220 today to a low of 212 and you know what I did?

I bought more puts at 220 and I bought some 215c at 212.

That means I can't lose but can win 2 times lol.

bros acknowledging their current plays are red.

not every trade is gonna be a winner so kudos to you guys for keeping it real. Hope your trade turns green.

You are my favorite financial poster that trades <3.

[Abzu]

Thanks for the quick response man. Crazy you see a bottom in literally just 50 days. What do you see as the main catalyst for such a sudden dip?

I remember you saying in previous threads you see it dipping to mid 4000s, so that would be a 1000 point drop from here!

~4400(-20%) is the bottom end of my target, ~4800(-12%) is the top end and will be my initial target, you shouldn't expect ~4400 but it could happen.

The S&P went down ~6% in 15 trading days from 03-28/04-19 so it's not a huge ask for 12% by 07/31.

There are many things that can cause it but it is harder to pin down due to Biden's America lol.

[stockbruh]

Lol.

BROS, please, stop it and get some help.

I tried to be that help but what can you do?



AAPL went from 220 today to a low of 212 and you know what I did?

I bought more puts at 220 and I bought some 215c at 212.

That means I can't lose but can win 2 times lol.



You are my favorite financial poster that trades <3.

Can we get the math on this?is this called a straddle? What did you pay for each contract?

[Abzu]

Can we get the math on this?is this called a straddle? What did you pay for each contract?

200p 07/26 first buy was ~2.60, second buy was ~1.10 and I plan on making a third/final buy if it gets back to 220 or above, I will also sell some/all calls here.

215c 06/21 for ~1.00, second buy if AAPL goes to 210 tomorrow, no third buy and no second buy if I don't do it at ~210.

I could have improved the trade by buying a longer date on the call but I don't think I need it.

[Abzu]

Targeting 200-197, 197-193, 187-180 to sell the 200p.

[kusok]

Targeting 200-197, 197-193, 187-180 to sell the 200p.

I’ve done multi leg options, it gets tiring, especially when I see my wife just hold and make $2000 or $4000 or whatever it went up to today for every 100 shares, doing absolutely nothing.

I’d be curious how your play works out. Seems like a good play. But market makers have a job: burn shorts and longs.

[stockbruh]

I’ve done multi leg options, it gets tiring, especially when I see my wife just hold and make $2000 or $4000 or whatever it went up to today for every 100 shares, doing absolutely nothing.

I’d be curious how your play works out. Seems like a good play. But market makers have a job: burn shorts and longs.

Doing these short term trades seems to be a smart move when you know there’s a crash coming but you don’t know when.bro will make money if it goes up or down and won’t be stuck in a stock if the market does crash

[kusok]

Doing these short term trades seems to be a smart move when you know there’s a crash coming but you don’t know when.bro will make money if it goes up or down and won’t be stuck in a stock if the market does crash

You’re overestimating the profitability of option buying, it’s very dangerous, especially the bearish and Short term options. Statistically anyone who buys any option loses 8 or 9 out of 10 times, and of course they’re not going to post their losses on the Internet.

When retail expects a big move up or down, marketmakers can see those bets being placed, and they can easily manipulate the stock to not move a single dollar at all, until people get burned and lose their money.