The whistleblower complain has been released

[FoxMcCocks]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/u...gtype=Homepage

Some serious allegations in there - potentially more transcripts that the Trump WH hid because they knew they could be incriminating

Tick.

Tock.

[BFast55]

"I have no firsthand knowledge"

[JoshSP1985]

Can anyone outline to me what Presidents are and aren't allowed to say to other foreign leaders?

[semitope]

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...nt_unclass.pdf

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/liv...hment-inquiry/

trump folks won't understand why this is bad since its not hillary or obama doing it. They cried about her emails for so long but can't figure this one out.

[FoxMcCocks]

Can anyone outline to me what Presidents are and aren't allowed to say to other foreign leaders?

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...dition:prelim)

Here's the law.

"It shall be unlawful for a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national" (a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value,)

It's really not rocket science - you can't ask a foreign leader to investigate your political opponent for your own political gain.

[DeshaunWatson]

Can anyone outline to me what Presidents are and aren't allowed to say to other foreign leaders?

Well the VP was allowed to threat Ukraine and withhold aid for personal gain.

[FoxMcCocks]

"I have no firsthand knowledge"

His accounting of the call lines up exactly with the transcript released by the White House itself

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[Iczer]

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...dition:prelim)

Here's the law.

"It shall be unlawful for a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national" (a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value,)

It's really not rocket science - you can't ask a foreign leader to investigate your political opponent for your own political gain.

So let me get this straight. If Biden was not running for president, it'd be fair game? But since he is, off limits? Even if it was illegal?

[Drinman]

His accounting of the call lines up exactly with the transcript released by the White House itself

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the call which was revealed to have no crime so....

[Vito-C]

"I learned from multiple US officials, that senior White House officials had..."

This is the strongest 3rd hand information I've ever seen. No wonder the FBI and DOJ dismissed this claim.

I'm impressed that this is actually even weaker than Russiagate.

[FoxMcCocks]

So let me get this straight. If Biden was not running for president, it'd be fair game? But since he is, off limits? Even if it was illegal?

If Biden was not running for president, then no it would not violate this specific campaign finance law.

It would still be troubling and potentially impeachable (because an impeachable offense =/= crime) because it can be seen as an abuse of power, but that's obviously subject to debate and not black and white.

[chaunce54]

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...dition:prelim)

Here's the law.

"It shall be unlawful for a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national" (a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value,)

It's really not rocket science - you can't ask a foreign leader to investigate your political opponent for your own political gain.

So we're talking about a campaign finance violation at worst?


OMG, why aren't they impeaching Omar?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/polit...nce/index.html

[N0rds]

[BFast55]

His accounting of the call lines up exactly with the transcript released by the White House itself

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Do you seriously think this is damning evidence?

His complaint doesn;t even qualify him to be labeled a "whistleblower" so even that is factually incorrect. But hey, most libs want Trump out so bad, it really wont matter how little evidence they have.
Hope is not a strategy.

[Iczer]

If Biden was not running for president, then no it would not violate this specific campaign finance law.

It would still be troubling and potentially impeachable (because an impeachable offense =/= crime) because it can be seen as an abuse of power, but that's obviously subject to debate and not black and white.

I'm honestly having trouble understanding how the president asking someone to look into a potential illegal activity is a crime. I guess my issue here is the swamp just gets deeper. Who the fuk is going to look into this stuff then? Or is Trump the only person that matters at this point?

Unless I missed the quid pro quo part?

[dabbmw2002]

Hearsay is now evidence to impeach a President?

What a clown show the Democratic party has become.

[metroins]

I'm honestly having trouble understanding how the president asking someone to look into a potential illegal activity is a crime. I guess my issue here is the swamp just gets deeper. Who the fuk is going to look into this stuff then? Or is Trump the only person that matters at this point?

I'm kinda iffy on that stuff, but it is shady af to have Rudy Giuliani talking to foreign leaders and doing State Department work.

Giuliani is the Donald J. Trumps personal attorney.

Why the **** is he talking to foreign countries? He's like the new Michael Cohen.

[chaunce54]

Hearsay is now evidence to impeach a President?

What a clown show the Democratic party has become.

Hearsay about a potential campaign finance violation at that...

[semitope]

yeah yeah. "its not clinton, biden or obama so nothing to see here"

[leafs43]

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...nt_unclass.pdf


Second main point: “I was not a direct witness”


If you think that this is evidence to unseat a president, let alone a parking ticket, you’re a clown.

[Drinman]

Tried to restrict a call that was later released and proved to have nothing incriminating in it....

[Dan_S]

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...dition:prelim)

Here's the law.

"It shall be unlawful for a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national" (a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value,)

It's really not rocket science - you can't ask a foreign leader to investigate your political opponent for your own political gain.

Cool, except he'd be derelict in his duties as the current President if he didn't pursue it. Congress made a treaty with Ukraine and delegated that authority to the President. I feel like I just need to post this in every single retarded thread about this call. You people are idiots.

This gets worse each hour for the Democrats.



Article 1 sets forth a non-exclusive list of the major types of assistance to be provided under the Treaty, including taking the testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records and other items of evidence; locating or identifying persons or items; serving documents; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to immobilization and forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and, rendering any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the Requested State. The scope of the Treaty includes not only criminal offenses, but also proceedings related to criminal matters, which may be civil or administrative in nature.

Edit: For our dumbs, this means Congress even granted the authority to the President to do it. Everything was on the up and up. Sorry guys.

[BeReRkER]

extremely weak case, another nothing burger. Libtards taking more and more Ls, 2020 is going to be so delicious

[BFast55]

I think you brah's are looking at this all wrong. Maybe OP and the left are just REALLY YUGE Mike Pence fans.

[chaunce54]

yeah yeah. "its not clinton, biden or obama so nothing to see here"

lol, if this was presented in a court of law, the lawyer presenting it would be laughed out of the courtroom.

[HannoCometh]

Just as I suspected. A lot of drama, little substance, little damage.

Yawn. Again.

[semitope]

"its not clinton, biden or obama so nothing to see here"

[x-trainer ben]

Why does this guy keep on outsourcing dirt digging things to Russia and the Ukraine, what is his fixation with them?

[AriGhold]

Trumpcucks: tHiS iS fInE

[dabbmw2002]

Hearsay about a potential campaign finance violation at that...

And that is idiotic, as the action has to be solely for campaign purposes. Corruption and investigating potential crimes is within his purview as Potus pursuant to the treaty we have with Ukraine. It is not a campaign violation if it happens to benefit him