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    Good recommended product for stim free cycle?

    Need a good recommendation for a stim free cycle. In the recent past, I have used both PEScience High Volume and iForce Nutrition HemaV02 (Which now seems to be called HemaV02 Max so I wonder if it's a different product or maybe that's what it's just been called all along?)

    I liked both products for my stim free cycle but looking to mix it up and try something different. I already take Gaspari Nutrition SizeOn during my workouts (which includes creatine) so it doesn't need to include creatine.

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    If you got the first version of HemaV02 way back when it first came out, yes the current one is slightly different.

    If you want to try something different, check out Gaspari PlasmaJet
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    I'm currently running a log of RedCon 1's Big Noise. It's a pump based product but also has Nootropics which help out if you're going stim free.

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    I love both High Volume and HemaV02. Both are great products and have been a fan of Hemavol for years.

    MAN has Pump Powder if you like the pumps and also Body Octane (hnggg flavoring) that are stim free.
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    Thanks for the SizeOn support! Great product to use intra-workout. Since you've already tried two great options, check out Quake 10.0 caffeine-free and SAN Megatron. I'd also recommend Gaspari PlasmaJet but it's not completely stimulant free since it has about 50 mg of caffeine.
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    I'm currently trying Transparent Labs Stim Free pre workout which I like a lot. One of the only pre workouts I found that had everything that I was looking for in a pre workout.
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    San megatron and man noopump (discontinued) treated me very well. Had some sort of stim feels from them.
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    Thank you all for the replies! Yeah, I got the first version of HemaV02 when it first came out. I actually have taken the Hemavol original version before...maybe I should just try that again?

    I remember taking Gaspari Nutrition PlasmaJet years ago but yeah unfortunately since it has caffeine in it, I will pass just because I want something completely stimulant free.

    Man this is tough...I'll keep thinking.
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    Originally Posted by jagsfan05 View Post
    Thank you all for the replies! Yeah, I got the first version of HemaV02 when it first came out. I actually have taken the Hemavol original version before...maybe I should just try that again?

    I remember taking Gaspari Nutrition PlasmaJet years ago but yeah unfortunately since it has caffeine in it, I will pass just because I want something completely stimulant free.

    Man this is tough...I'll keep thinking.
    Hemavol is still one of my go-tos. It doesn't have the focus aspect like HemaV02 has, but still a great non-stim. Good enough to still be here about a decade after formulation.

    If you do go Hemavol, idk if you had Lemon Drop before, but if you haven't that is a must try.
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    Hemavol is still one of my go-tos. It doesn't have the focus aspect like HemaV02 has, but still a great non-stim. Good enough to still be here about a decade after formulation.

    If you do go Hemavol, idk if you had Lemon Drop before, but if you haven't that is a must try.
    Thanks, yeah I've tried Hemavol years ago and with the Lemon Drop flavor. So why is Hemavol different than this new HemaV02 Max? And why then does the Hemavol product have better reviews than HemaV02 Max on here? Only because it's been out longer? And how is HemaVO2 Max different than the the original HemaV02 I tried?

    Maybe I'll try the original Hemavol again. Was hoping to try a brand new product but maybe not.
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    Originally Posted by jagsfan05 View Post
    Thanks, yeah I've tried Hemavol years ago and with the Lemon Drop flavor. So why is Hemavol different than this new HemaV02 Max? And why then does the Hemavol product have better reviews than HemaV02 Max on here? Only because it's been out longer? And how is HemaVO2 Max different than the the original HemaV02 I tried?

    Maybe I'll try the original Hemavol again. Was hoping to try a brand new product but maybe not.
    HemaV02 was just a different approach the company wanted to take to try a new stim free product. It was reformulated slightly early on due to patent issues that prevented it from being carried by larger retailers (like here). KNO3 has always been a popular product for iForce between use in products and individual sale, so HemaV02 was combining KNO3 and HydroMax plus adding a focus complex. Hemavol is a great, well selling product. So rather than reformulating it, iForce did a separate product. Most of the reason for it having lower reviews is due to people giving it bad reviews for clumps. It has HydroMax in it, so clumping is to be expected. Hemavol also does have the advantage of a lot more reviews too.
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    im a big fan of HemaVO2 Max, love the Rainbow Sherbet flavor!

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    HemaV02 was just a different approach the company wanted to take to try a new stim free product. It was reformulated slightly early on due to patent issues that prevented it from being carried by larger retailers (like here). KNO3 has always been a popular product for iForce between use in products and individual sale, so HemaV02 was combining KNO3 and HydroMax plus adding a focus complex. Hemavol is a great, well selling product. So rather than reformulating it, iForce did a separate product. Most of the reason for it having lower reviews is due to people giving it bad reviews for clumps. It has HydroMax in it, so clumping is to be expected. Hemavol also does have the advantage of a lot more reviews too.
    Thanks for the reply but what are some differences between HemaV02 original and HemaV02 Max? And the difference between regular Hemavol and HemaV02 Max?

    Maybe I should just stick to the regular Hemavol again...don't really know anything about these products that others are recommending and I was hoping for more than one vote on a product. But it seems there is just one vote of different products I've never heard of.
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    I love both High Volume and HemaV02. Both are great products and have been a fan of Hemavol for years.

    MAN has Pump Powder if you like the pumps and also Body Octane (hnggg flavoring) that are stim free.
    I know how difficult it can be to pick a product, when everyone's throwing out so many options.

    I think the best thing would be, is to try to acquire samples of each product. This way you can try them, and then purchase whichever one you like best.

    The reason I quoted this post is because we actually sell samples of MAN Sports Pump Powder on our company website. They are about a dollar each.
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    I'm currently running a log of RedCon 1's Big Noise. It's a pump based product but also has Nootropics which help out if you're going stim free.

    Thus far I'm definitely enjoying it and may be worth taking a look at for you.
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    Thanks all. I ended up just going ahead and buying iForce Nutrition Hemavol. Again, I've used it in the past and just went with it because I was unsure of what else to try.
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    Thanks all. I ended up just going ahead and buying iForce Nutrition Hemavol. Again, I've used it in the past and just went with it because I was unsure of what else to try.
    You really can't go wrong with it. Time-tested and still a good, simple pump formula to this day.
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    You really can't go wrong with it. Time-tested and still a good, simple pump formula to this day.
    Yeah, the latest I have had is HemaV02 Max but before that I had the regular Hemavol years ago. When I was deciding between the two, I just noticed Hemavol was cheaper and had more servings, I know it's probably not as good though.

    And just couldn't decide with all the other products people were mentioning because there didn't seem to be a lot of votes for just one.
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    Originally Posted by jagsfan05 View Post
    Yeah, the latest I have had is HemaV02 Max but before that I had the regular Hemavol years ago. When I was deciding between the two, I just noticed Hemavol was cheaper and had more servings, I know it's probably not as good though.

    And just couldn't decide with all the other products people were mentioning because there didn't seem to be a lot of votes for just one.
    Good points, and while Hemav02 might have a better formula, Hemavol is great to add alongside an already well-dosed PWO and to just have on hand. Plus it's cheaper with more servings as you mentioned.. good value.
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    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    Good points, and while Hemav02 might have a better formula, Hemavol is great to add alongside an already well-dosed PWO and to just have on hand. Plus it's cheaper with more servings as you mentioned.. good value.
    Yeah thanks. I'm actually cycling off my stim preworkouts so I'll be taking Hemavol by itself before my workouts. Besides using my SizeOn still obviously.
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    Yeah thanks. I'm actually cycling off my stim preworkouts so I'll be taking Hemavol by itself before my workouts. Besides using my SizeOn still obviously.
    Good plan. Well of course! SizeOn crew checking in.
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