Testosterone booster or other supplements?

[ImHere2Gain]

Hi guys.
I'm 21 years old. Have been lifting for 3 months and gained 6kg, would like to gain a lot quicker.
I eat as much as possible but have poor appetite. To supplement I take 20g creatine, 250g of maltodextrin and 100g whey protein p/day.
On days I am lifting I take a standard measure of BCAAs + 10g creatine during workout and a maltodextrin/creatine/whey shake after.

I really want to gain muscle mass and strength quicker. Should I be taking any other supplements besides maltodextrin, protein, creatine and BCAAs?
Should I take a test booster? If so, any recommendations?

[mtownballer20]

Why are you taking so much plain malto?

What is your TDE? Are you tracking your macros?

A test booster won't do a whole lot for you at your age. Stacking ClearMuscle, PhosphaMuscle, PlasmaMuscle is a pretty beast stack for gains if you are training hard and at high volume. Or individually they are solid as well.

[Partyrocking]

I wouldn't gain weight any quicker than you are. 2kg/month is a pretty good pace. Go any faster and you'll likely just put on extra fat.

5g/creatine is enough. Why on earth would you need that much maltodextrin? Your whey has plenty of BCAAs in it already.

[bri88col]

Creatine overkill

[Mickfootie]

Hi guys.
I'm 21 years old. Have been lifting for 3 months and gained 6kg, would like to gain a lot quicker.
I eat as much as possible but have poor appetite. To supplement I take 20g creatine, 250g of maltodextrin and 100g whey protein p/day.
On days I am lifting I take a standard measure of BCAAs + 10g creatine during workout and a maltodextrin/creatine/whey shake after.

I really want to gain muscle mass and strength quicker. Should I be taking any other supplements besides maltodextrin, protein, creatine and BCAAs?
Should I take a test booster? If so, any recommendations?

At 21 there is no need for any T/Boosting supplements as your body is at its prime for building.
You need to be monitoring your macro's you ingest throughout the day and look at something along the lines of 35-40% Protein, 40-45% Carbs with 20% fats and make it as much real food as possible. Eating whole foods will help with digestion, gaining essential nutrients and aiding in building muscle much better than loading up with supplements.
Your Creatine intake is way too high and a waste as the majority you ingest will go straight out in your urine. 3-5g daily is more than sufficient for a guy your size.
If you are struggling to eat then i would suggest an appetite enhancer to supplement in as this will aid in a more efficient digestion and will help you to eat more food, but still keep within a decent macro limit and calorie intake.
You need to really be looking at what your body actually needs calorie wise at rest then add in some other factors on how much exercise you do or how hectic your lifestyle is to add calories. Basically eat around 500 calories more than what is required daily to enable steady mucle gain and so not to gain too much fat.
Can you list what you actually eat in throughout the course of the day if you dont mind?

[Outside backer]

^^^ at 21 youre levels are envious you'll be pissing away money

[Sixpack]

Like I tell everyone, increase your healthy fat intake and this should help, but really you should be fine at your age!

[Athletic Edge]

Check out our article Guide on testosterone and how diet and supplementation can impact it
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/guid...mentation.html

[fatboystick]

Why are you taking so much plain malto?

What is your TDE? Are you tracking your macros?

A test booster won't do a whole lot for you at your age. Stacking ClearMuscle, PhosphaMuscle, PlasmaMuscle is a pretty beast stack for gains if you are training hard and at high volume. Or individually they are solid as well.

This...

At 21, youre just fine bro. Continue to eat..A LOT!! Best way to gain quality weight.
If....IF...you were to try anything other than what you are currently doing, the stack Baller suggested is very good. I stack them as well...If you go with one...go with the PA, you wont be disappointed.

[AfroPope]

Why are you taking 250 grams of maltodextrin per day?

Why are you taking 30 grams of creatine per day?

What in the world makes you think you need a test booster?

What the **** are you doing?

[ImHere2Gain]

Thanks for all the replies guys, will take your advice into account - I've cut back to 5g creatine and 100g of maltodextrin p/day.

Why are you taking 250 grams of maltodextrin per day?

Why are you taking 30 grams of creatine per day?

What in the world makes you think you need a test booster?

What the **** are you doing?

Ahaha, thanks for making me laugh. I honestly didn't know I was taking too much creatine.
I was taking 250g of maltodextrin because I have a poor appetite and was eating less than maintenance, so I wanted to make sure I was getting enough calories.

I was just wondering if there are any other important supplements I should be taking, and testosterone boosters came to mind - will hold off them for a few years and take some of the advice given in this thread
thanks

[theunsunghero]

Thanks for all the replies guys, will take your advice into account - I've cut back to 5g creatine and 100g of maltodextrin p/day.
Ahaha, thanks for making me laugh. I honestly didn't know I was taking too much creatine.
I was taking 250g of maltodextrin because I have a poor appetite and was eating less than maintenance, so I wanted to make sure I was getting enough calories.

I was just wondering if there are any other important supplements I should be taking, and testosterone boosters came to mind - will hold off them for a few years and take some of the advice given in this thread
thanks

You've only been lifting 3 months? **** me and my bs genetics Your avi gots me jelly. Keep it up. Whole foods, heavy weights and rest! Supps for the fun of it.

There are no OTC supps you should be taking. But if your going to continue to go overkill on the amounts than have at it! When I'm feeling a little frisky I like over doing it with my beta-alanine and Tyrosine. Lol!

O and check back w us in three years you're going to be a beast if you keep it up

[snorkelman]

...- I've cut back to 5g creatine

^^ good

...- I've cut back to ... 100g of maltodextrin p/day.

^^ still about 100 grams too much.

...I was taking 250g of maltodextrin because I have a poor appetite and was eating less than maintenance, so I wanted to make sure I was getting enough calories.

Eat something that give you nutrients along with the calories. Malto is useless for that. Try peanut butter if you are lacking calories.

[dknatural74]

Dang....cut down on the malto! Take about 20gms after workouts. Trade the rest out for sweet potatos/oats/brown rice/plain cheerios. If u want to gain strength... lecithin granules may help. I love it; 1 tbsp 45 min b4 training with 1 tbsp coconut oil!!!

[AfroPope]

You want to get more calories in? Eat peanut butter. That amount of maltodextrin is doing NOTHING good for you, it's not even calorically dense.

[AMeyer9]

In terms of carb powder, I've been mixing Oat Powder (essentially whole oat flour) with protein of choice. Has protein & fat naturally as well. Not sure how you can stand malto, stuff mixes horrible.

[lucia316]

Thanks for all the replies guys, will take your advice into account - I've cut back to 5g creatine and 100g of maltodextrin p/day.
Ahaha, thanks for making me laugh. I honestly didn't know I was taking too much creatine.
I was taking 250g of maltodextrin because I have a poor appetite and was eating less than maintenance, so I wanted to make sure I was getting enough calories.

Why not just use table sugar if that's the case? Maltodextrin is just another polysaccharide. Save your money. Better yet, use fat for calories if that's all you need. The other piece here is just sucking it up and force feeding. That's part of the game sometimes. Further, 4 scoops of protein powder a day? You only weigh 146 and need ~108g a day to meet your macro. This is beyond easy to eat even if you don't have a strong appetite. Save your money on protein powder and just eat food.

It sounds like your problem is that you're not willing to eat enough to make your gains, so you just drink your calories. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that, but your hosed once you actually put on some size and need to increase your calories further.

I was just wondering if there are any other important supplements I should be taking, and testosterone boosters came to mind - will hold off them for a few years and take some of the advice given in this thread

Would not worry about supplements any further. You need to work on your diet. Your pace of gaining weight is fine.

You've only been lifting 3 months? **** me and my bs genetics Your avi gots me jelly.

Jelly of a buck forty-six? He's a skinny guy with a high metabolism and low bf% trying to gain weight.

[aaronuconn]

Eat something that give you nutrients along with the calories. Malto is useless for that. Try peanut butter if you are lacking calories.

Exactly. 250g of carb from fruit, grains, etc. will be much more beneficial.

And taste better