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    Hostess out of business: post your RIP pics

    Yes its true

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    Where they the ones who made those Zebra Cakes I've never tried in my life but thought they looked awesome walking down the bread aisle?

    Sad days I guess.

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    Originally Posted by RugbyTank View Post
    Where they the ones who made those Zebra Cakes I've never tried in my life but thought they looked awesome walking down the bread aisle?

    Sad days I guess.

    Nvm little debbies, i'm out
    no those are little debbie, so you still have a chance
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    According to reports, a nationwide strike by its workers crippled its ability to make and deliver its products, in turn, forcing them to shut down. As of press time, the Irving, Texas company has suspended bakery operations at all its factories, and said its stores will remain open for several days to sell already-baked products.

    Hostess previously warned employees that it would have to file for bankruptcy and sell assets if plant operations didn't return to normal levels by Thursday evening (November 15). Workers continued to strike
    , thus, giving the company no other option.

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    1. Go on strike
    2. Get told to come back or the place is going bankrupt
    3. Stay on strike, company goes bankrupt
    4. Lose your job

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    Originally Posted by Ghosting View Post
    LOL

    According to reports, a nationwide strike by its workers crippled its ability to make and deliver its products, in turn, forcing them to shut down. As of press time, the Irving, Texas company has suspended bakery operations at all its factories, and said its stores will remain open for several days to sell already-baked products.

    Hostess previously warned employees that it would have to file for bankruptcy and sell assets if plant operations didn't return to normal levels by Thursday evening (November 15). Workers continued to strike
    , thus, giving the company no other option.
    another reason to hate unions

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    what do they call themselves
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    While I think it's a shame that so many people lost their jobs, my commission is going to go up tremendously now.
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    SOJA is correct. I know people that worked for Interstate Bakeries. Two of them were desperately looking for other jobs (and found them) about a year ago, they saw what was coming. The others weren't operations people so didn't have as much insight as to what was going on in the company, but even production people have been trying to find jobs for months. They've watched management jump ship and figured out what was going on.

    But don't worry, I'm sure Kraft or nabisco will buy the hostess name brand and produce twinkies, etc.
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    ive never eaten anything hostess so not a single fuk was given





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    ive never eaten anything hostess so not a single fuk was given
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    The company was going bankrupt and would have shut down regardless of whether the workers came back or not. The CEO gave himself a 300% salary increase when the company was in economic despair.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz2CWB2kpcz

    People who whine about unions really don't understand how much they keep this country together. If it weren't for teachers unions, roughly 260 teachers would have lost their jobs this past year in my former school district. 90+ police officers would have been given a pink slip and wouldn't be able to find any jobs for months, factory workers would be grossly underpaid for the work they do, state healthcare workers wouldn't have a leg to stand on, nurses and doctors too, etc.
    If it weren't for unions, people would all be paid what they're truly worth - what the market says they're worth. If Hostess paid workers $10/hour but another company paid $12, then the best workers would go to the other company and Hostess would be left with the lower quality workers and have to increase wages to stay competitive. If 90 police officers would have lost their jobs and wouldn't have been able to find any others, then obviously we didn't need those 90 police officers to begin with. Cutting unions would cut a ton of waste.

    In the long run, many unions in today's world hurt workers, but people are too stupid to see it.
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    Your post makes no sense. A company isn't bound by law to keep a poorly trained worker around. Unions negotiate wages they believe their members deserve, and it's never a defacto rate. Unfortunately, police officers are always in need. It also allows them to keep the pay the deserve. A 10 year veteran deserves more than $60,000 a year when the hiring amount is only $10,000 less. The idea that unions are useless falls within the realm of people thinking that if we tax the rich more than they already are, they won't be able to create more jobs. If we got rid of unions and lowered public services to bare minimums to get over the financial crisis, we introduce austerity, which is a failure. Not a success. Austerity has rarely worked outside of a major world event, e.g. WWII. Don't serve me your bull****. You know full well that Hostess was going down months ago. Anyone who works in finance knew.
    LOL. How the hell would I have known that Hostess was going down?

    Do you know how long it takes to fire a union worker? All the bullsh!t involved? Unions promote complacency and remove competition. Two bad things, among many other bad things they do.

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    Walking through the grocery store last night I heard one of the workers say they sold out of twinkles right after it was announced and she saw boxes selling on eBay for over $100. I didn't check this for myself though. Either way I'm sure someone will buy the name and they'll be back.
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    The company was going bankrupt and would have shut down regardless of whether the workers came back or not. The CEO gave himself a 300% salary increase when the company was in economic despair.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz2CWB2kpcz

    People who whine about unions really don't understand how much they keep this country together. If it weren't for teachers unions, roughly 260 teachers would have lost their jobs this past year in my former school district. 90+ police officers would have been given a pink slip and wouldn't be able to find any jobs for months, factory workers would be grossly underpaid for the work they do, state healthcare workers wouldn't have a leg to stand on, nurses and doctors too, etc.


    9 Apr 2012:
    The chief executive of Hostess Brands Inc. said he is slashing executive compensation in the aftermath of creditor allegations that the company may have pushed management's salaries higher in the months leading up to its Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing in an effort to skirt bankruptcy rules.

    Gregory F. Rayburn, a restructuring expert who took the helm at Hostess last month, said in an interview that the top four executives working under him had agreed to cut their annual salaries to $1 until the company emerges from bankruptcy or Dec. 31, whichever comes first. The executives—Gary Wandschneider, John Stewart, David Loeser and Richard Seban—had seen their salaries increase by 75% to 80% last July, at a time when the baking company had already hired restructuring lawyers, according to creditors.

    Further down the totem pole at the Twinkie maker, four additional executives agreed to return to the salaries they were receiving before the July increase

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...976713584.html
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    They've been having financial troubles for years. And no, it isn't as difficult as you claim it is. Six cops were given a notice and booted in 2 months despite being in unions. They didn't receive compensation either. Competition is always there regardless of whether there's a union or not. I've never read or heard of a legitimate excuse to get rid of unions that isn't based on the common word spread around much like politics, e.g. Obama is a Muslim, by so many nutty right-wingers.
    Dude, you're an a-hole seriously. Stop turning every god damn little thing into politics. It's cool that you want to suck on Obamas pubes but calling people nutty right-wingers and using extremist Fox views like everyone must believe that in that since they don't share your political opinion is getting annoying. Accept that people don't like unions and move on. Better yet, go to the P/R section where people actually want to spend time debating it. A lot of lazy dips*its voted Obama (Obama phone woman and Obamas going to pay my gas to name a couple).

    Plenty of leeches on your side, yet I never see anyone in this section point it out. Get out of the delusion the Obama supporters are all good people that care about the welfare of the country and anyone opposed is a nutty right-winger. Knock it off.

    I don't care if people interject their political or religious beliefs, but with you it is pretty much every time and you are now making it vicious.
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    Originally Posted by sawoobley View Post
    9 Apr 2012:
    The chief executive of Hostess Brands Inc. said he is slashing executive compensation in the aftermath of creditor allegations that the company may have pushed management's salaries higher in the months leading up to its Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing in an effort to skirt bankruptcy rules.

    Gregory F. Rayburn, a restructuring expert who took the helm at Hostess last month, said in an interview that the top four executives working under him had agreed to cut their annual salaries to $1 until the company emerges from bankruptcy or Dec. 31, whichever comes first. The executives—Gary Wandschneider, John Stewart, David Loeser and Richard Seban—had seen their salaries increase by 75% to 80% last July, at a time when the baking company had already hired restructuring lawyers, according to creditors.

    Further down the totem pole at the Twinkie maker, four additional executives agreed to return to the salaries they were receiving before the July increase

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    Sawoobley back his post up with links. You on the other hand (like usual) make claims, don't back them up and ask people to debate your unproven claims.
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    lol @ Hostess. Vachon, bras:
    “Go back?" he thought. "No good at all! Go sideways? Impossible! Go forward? Only thing to do! On we go!" So up he got, and trotted along with his little sword held in front of him and one hand feeling the wall, and his heart all of a patter and a pitter.”
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    The damage was already done, Sawoobley. It doesn't matter if they returned and then rose again (inb4 southern remark). For manufacturing jobs, even if unions didn't exist and competition was fierce, do you people really think companies would keep work here or in other countries? Oh wait, they do. Hershey's moved some jobs to Mexico a few years ago. It doesn't matter, unions give some people peace and mind, and the ability to survive while the CoL index slowly rises.



    If I actually liked Obama, your post would make sense. He's too liberal for my tastes. Unions are politicized, dip****.
    Every post that isn't dead on is followed up with a "your post would make sense". What a whiny tard.
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    The damage was already done, Sawoobley. It doesn't matter if they returned and then rose again (inb4 southern remark). For manufacturing jobs, even if unions didn't exist and competition was fierce, do you people really think companies would keep work here or in other countries? Oh wait, they do. Hershey's moved some jobs to Mexico a few years ago. It doesn't matter, unions give some people peace and mind, and the ability to survive while the CoL index slowly rises.

    If I actually liked Obama, your post would make sense. He's too liberal for my tastes. Unions are politicized, dip****.
    Didn't the company say they would stay in business if everyone returned to work by a certain day? Sure they might be struggling but so are a lot of companies but they still stay in business. How much money did the company lose from the strike? I don't think most of us know how difficult it is to run a profitable and competitive business.

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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    I think the man in smart, but I also think he's a damn hippy.
    OMFG. Whatever. I'm also not going to sit here and analyze every post so I can argue with a nutty left-winger (the nutty left-winger was a joke, don't get all butthurt and point out how I used it too). I got better things to do then to go back and forth (or even care) with an extremist.
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    Sawoobley posted a link where they stated the pay was returned until an increase in July. A small gap in that time doesn't make it any less wrong. Less dick riding and calling people Obama tards. I think the man in smart, but I also think he's a damn hippy.
    It's not wrong for them to pay their executives a lot of money to stay working for the company. I know it stinks to have people making tons more than the rest of us but that is the way it is. If you had the same skills you could demand the same amount of pay.
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    Not when a company is failing hard financially. As for the last part, I do. Hence why I'm paid more than what 90% of adults make at my age. Then again I worked my ass off from the ****head I used to be as a kid to who I am now. A "barbaric *******" according to one nut miscer.
    What is your job?
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