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    Want to look good for summer what do i do

    do i cut

    or bulk for a month then cut...

    or something else

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    Originally Posted by Mikey Fraser View Post
    do i cut

    or bulk for a month then cut...

    or something else

    cheers lads
    not much time. . .for summer cut

    then after summer bulk over the break until next summer
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    do some HIIT training for fat loss while on alternate days hitting the weights to gain muscle. I would say 3 times a week for each. At the same time do some carb cycling. You have about 10 weeks before summer hits ( June 1).

    I think you can add some muscle while reducing fat doing this. At your age the fat will melt off if you do this correctly, and you will add some lean mass at the same time. Be careful, don't watch the scale, it will probably dip a little bit but maybe not as much as you would like and it could move up a bit at times. Measure your waist, and take other body measurements, and watch the mirror.

    Go to the 'contest prep" forum and find Layne's sticky for contest prep for more info.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne36.htm
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    Originally Posted by cuhockey View Post
    do some HIIT training for fat loss while on alternate days hitting the weights to gain muscle. I would say 3 times a week for each. At the same time do some carb cycling. You have about 10 weeks before summer hits ( June 1).

    I think you can add some muscle while reducing fat doing this. At your age the fat will melt off if you do this correctly, and you will add some lean mass at the same time. Be careful, don't watch the scale, it will probably dip a little bit but maybe not as much as you would like and it could move up a bit at times. Measure your waist, and take other body measurements, and watch the mirror.

    Go to the 'contest prep" forum and find Lance's sticky for contest prep for more info.
    Great advice bud. I'm sure OP appreciated it, cause I sure do!

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    Originally Posted by cuhockey View Post
    do some HIIT training for fat loss while on alternate days hitting the weights to gain muscle. I would say 3 times a week for each. At the same time do some carb cycling. You have about 10 weeks before summer hits ( June 1).

    I think you can add some muscle while reducing fat doing this. At your age the fat will melt off if you do this correctly, and you will add some lean mass at the same time. Be careful, don't watch the scale, it will probably dip a little bit but maybe not as much as you would like and it could move up a bit at times. Measure your waist, and take other body measurements, and watch the mirror.

    Go to the 'contest prep" forum and find Lance's sticky for contest prep for more info.
    um. . .no.

    recomps are crap

    id start cutting asap if were you op
    So it goes...
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    Originally Posted by Emarti17 View Post
    um. . .no.

    recomps are crap

    id start cutting asap if were you op
    Layne's precontest article (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne36.htm) is not crap, it's some of the most solid free advice you'll ever come across regarding fat loss.
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    Originally Posted by Emarti17 View Post
    um. . .no.

    recomps are crap

    id start cutting asap if were you op
    I agree, basically you can only pull of a successful recomp with noob gains or gear. If none of the above, just do a cut or a bulk.
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    Originally Posted by Vaporize View Post
    I agree, basically you can only pull of a successful recomp with noob gains or gear. If none of the above, just do a cut or a bulk.
    Are you considering Layne's article a recomp? I don't.....I consider it a general fat loss plan.
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    Originally Posted by Mached View Post
    Are you considering Layne's article a recomp? I don't.....I consider it a general fat loss plan.
    I was commenting on just what I quoted. I didn't read the whole thread so I don't know what you guys were debating but I just wanted to shed some light on the "recomp" idea. Yes, Layne's article is purely fatloss (I am using a lot of ideas now as I am prepping for a show).
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    Mikey wants to be lean for summer. I think he is fat and lacks muscle. If he just diets he will lose muscle; if he bulks he'll be even fatter. If he does 5 weeks of each then he will have a bit more muscle but end up just with the same amount of body fat.

    I suggest he 1) eats so that he doesn't lose muscle mass, that he 2) does HIIT to lose body fat, and 3) lifts heavier to add muscle ( heavier than he is doing per his log.) If he does all that he can be leaner and have more muscle mass. Layne's article can help with all that without me writing a whole article just for him. He can tweak Layne's process for his needs, and he could do much worse than that advice.
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    Originally Posted by cuhockey View Post
    Mikey wants to be lean for summer. I think he is fat and lacks muscle. If he just diets he will lose muscle; if he bulks he'll be even fatter. If he does 5 weeks of each then he will have a bit more muscle but end up just with the same amount of body fat.

    I suggest he 1) eats so that he doesn't lose muscle mass, that he 2) does HIIT to lose body fat, and 3) lifts heavier to add muscle ( heavier than he is doing per his log.) If he does all that he can be leaner and have more muscle mass. Layne's article can help with all that without me writing a whole article just for him. He can tweak Layne's process for his needs, and he could do much worse than that advice.
    Sounds solid to me. Newbie can gain muscle and lose fat simultaneously, but obviously at a slower rate. I'm an advocate of HIT cardio no matter what the experience consists of.....it's extremely helpful for fat loss and overall cardiovascular health.

    My take on it....

    He doesn't have enough muscle mass to just try to lose fat....he'll look sickly

    He's carrying too much fat to strictly bulk....he'll look REAL BAD

    My advice is to implement a solid weight training program along with a solid diet and moderate cardio plan.
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    im really thinking of doing diet cuhockey said

    iv been lifting for about 2 months now so i will not really get newbie gains

    that journal was from a while back but i stopped lifting for about half a year

    now my sessions are a lot more intense

    cuhockey seems to be making a lot of sense
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    Just got out of the hospital? when?

    2 months of lifting? You're still a newbie. Now you're just in good enough shape to lift heavy and intense.


    Be sure to do the HIT cardio.

    Do you do barbell squats? Deadlifts?
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    work harder.
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    ok so will eating just under my maintence high protein moderate carbs and fat make me look leaner?

    obv hiit 3 - 4 a week and heavy lifting aswell

    keep in mind i have a ****e diet ect
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    Bodybuilding takes time.

    If you are happy with your muscle mass, cut.

    If you are unhappy with your muscle mass, bulk and screw a summer time deadline.
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    Do free weights with VERY brisk cardio daily - 20 mins tops.
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    ok i think i will cut lol then slowly clean bulk after
    Yass man out of hospital can get my bb life back on track...need 2 find a good cut diet though :)
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    Go on a diet and start lifting
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