Most underrated and overrated exercises

[ThickAsABrick]

Over-rated, under-rated or both?

I'd say it depends on your goals.

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Underrated - full squat. Most people believe that a full squat is bad for the knees, but scientific evidence has proven otherwise. But in my gym I am surprised to see people hit parallel when they squat.

Overrated - Seated calf raises. Standing calf raises are sufficient enough.

[im2manly]

Overrated - Seated calf raises. Standing calf raises are sufficient enough.

No.

[-Lucifer]

No.

Sorry, my man, but I agree with that chap. Doing standing calf raises with straight legs will hit the soleus as well. There is no need to try and emphasize them more unless you're a bodybuilder that wants to compete.

[ThickAsABrick]

Sorry, my man, but I agree with that chap. Doing standing calf raises with straight legs will hit the soleus as well. There is no need to try and emphasize them more unless you're a bodybuilder that wants to compete.

your legs aren't straight.

i am not going to compete and seated calf raises have been good to me over the yrs. limiting yourself to one movement is a dumb.

[im2manly]

Sorry, my man, but I agree with that chap. Doing standing calf raises with straight legs will hit the soleus as well. There is no need to try and emphasize them more unless you're a bodybuilder that wants to compete.

Cool so we can ignore emphasizing rear delts because they are worked enough in rows...unless we are competing of course.

[-Lucifer]

your legs aren't straight.

I keep mine locked and do single leg calf raises with a dumbbell.

i am not going to compete and seated calf raises have been good to me over the yrs. limiting yourself to one movement is a dumb.

My calves are growing nicely even without those seated raises. Thox.

Cool so we can ignore emphasizing rear delts because they are worked enough in rows...unless we are competing of course.

Yes. Some people I know don't do sh*t for their rear delts but they still look good.

[ThickAsABrick]

My calves are growing nicely even without those seated raises. Thox.

merry fcking christmas!

i guess that means no one else should ever do anything different.

[ThickAsABrick]

Yes. Some people I know don't do sh*t for their rear delts but they still look good.

We get it: you're trolling.

Aside from the obvious aesthetic benefit for many, I firmly believe rear delt work is important for injury prevention.

[-Lucifer]

merry fcking christmas!
i guess that means no one else should ever do anything different.

Thox again! Do what you want. I just stated my opinion. You know, they're like a$$holes.

We get it: you're trolling.

Yes.

Aside from the obvious aesthetic benefit for many, I firmly believe rear delt work is important for injury prevention.

Rear delt work is vital, but comparing them and rows to the gastroc and soleus was a bit off.

[ThickAsABrick]

Thox again! Do what you want. I just stated my opinion. You know, they're like a$$holes.

My opinions are far better than yours.

kthxbye

[-Lucifer]

My opinions are far better than yours.
kthxbye

Maybe, but my rep power is higher than yours, so I am right. Also, I'm prettier than you.

KThoxBai.

[mmafighter1294]

ITT: an intense argument about calf raises.

[ThickAsABrick]

Also, I'm prettier than you.

9 out of 10 women disagree. It was probably the extra soleus and rear delt development that gave me the edge. Better luck next time, champ.

[ThickAsABrick]

ITT: an intense argument about calf raises.

We're trying to salvage the idiotic thread you started.

You're welcome.

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Haha didn't know seated calf raises were so important to some.

[-Lucifer]

9 out of 10 women disagree. It was probably the extra soleus and rear delt development that gave me the edge. Better luck next time, champ.

Those weren't women, brother. They were ladyboys. Better luck next time.

[ThickAsABrick]

Haha didn't know seated calf raises were so important to some.

You probably also don't know that Lu and I ran the train on your Mom.

Sorry you had to find out this way.


























































































































































Just kidding. I'm not really sorry.

[mmafighter1294]

We're trying to salvage the idiotic thread you started.

You're welcome.

I appreciate it. Your argument brings me to my next overrated exercise. Calf raises. I see people do endless sets, starting on the leg press machine, moving to the seated calf raise machine next to it, then over a few more feet to the smith machine. Not to mention they are usually sets of 20+ reps.

[-Lucifer]

I appreciate it. Your argument brings me to my next overrated exercise. Calf raises. I see people do endless sets, starting on the leg press machine, moving to the seated calf raise machine next to it, then over a few more feet to the smith machine. Not to mention they are usually sets of 20+ reps.

I don't get this. Why do you watch what other people are doing? If they're not in your way, you should mind your own business and do your lifting.

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I appreciate it. Your argument brings me to my next overrated exercise. Calf raises. I see people do endless sets, starting on the leg press machine, moving to the seated calf raise machine next to it, then over a few more feet to the smith machine. Not to mention they are usually sets of 20+ reps.

Agreed. It's all the same motion and the angle doesn't vary much on the lower leg. Seated calf raises vs standing calf raises would have the greatest degree of difference, but you all know what I think about that.

[mmafighter1294]

I don't get this. Why do you watch what other people are doing? If they're not in your way, you should mind your own business and do your lifting.

Ive never understood when people say "mind your own business when in the gym." I don't lift with my eyes closed, im gonna notice if someone has been hogging 8 45 lb plates for half an hour while im waiting to bench or squat.

[medjen]

I appreciate it. Your argument brings me to my next overrated exercise. Calf raises. I see people do endless sets, starting on the leg press machine, moving to the seated calf raise machine next to it, then over a few more feet to the smith machine. Not to mention they are usually sets of 20+ reps.

1. Calves are a difficult muscle to grow for many people, and may need to be pummeled significantly before responding.

2. Calves often respond very well to high rep work.

3. This...

I don't get this. Why do you watch what other people are doing? If they're not in your way, you should mind your own business and do your lifting.

[mmafighter1294]

1. Calves are a difficult muscle to grow for many people, and may need to be pummeled significantly before responding.

2. Calves often respond very well to high rep work.

3. This...

if it was people that knew what they're doing i wouldnt be so butt hurt about it. 20 effortless reps with a horrible range of motion doesnt make the calves grow. In my gym people that spend the most time doing calf raises are the ones that lift "low weight, high reps" to get "toned."

[-Lucifer]

im gonna notice if someone has been hogging 8 45 lb plates for half an hour while im waiting to bench or squat.

So your gym only has eight 45 lb plates? lol. Tell them to buy moar plates.

if it was people that knew what they're doing i wouldnt be so butt hurt about it. 20 effortless reps with a horrible range of motion doesnt make the calves grow. In my gym people that spend the most time doing calf raises are the ones that lift "low weight, high reps" to get "toned."

We have a lot of those people at my gym too. Can't really do anything about it.

[ThickAsABrick]

I appreciate it. Your argument brings me to my next overrated exercise. Calf raises. I see people do endless sets, starting on the leg press machine, moving to the seated calf raise machine next to it, then over a few more feet to the smith machine. Not to mention they are usually sets of 20+ reps.

I am deeply interested in your perceived value of various exercises and I consider you a beacon of knowledge.

[mmafighter1294]

So your gym only has eight 45 lb plates? lol. Tell them to buy moar plates.

I have. But its not a lifters gym, its a jungle of treadmills, ellipticals, and bikes.

[chazzy1864]

We're trying to salvage the idiotic thread you started.

You're welcome.

ITT: There are two people I want to neg.

[KevJr88]

I work out at the Y, so I'm going to go ahead and say bicep curls. Half the time ppl are doing damn near a full body exercise, throwing their legs and shoulders into it trying to get the 25 lb dbs up for that mad pump.

[mmafighter1294]

I am deeply interested in your perceived value of various exercises and I consider you a beacon of knowledge.

I equate calf raises with forearm curls. A little isolation work is alright, but lets not go overboard. Ok, theyre not quite the same. But spending more time on calves than quads, hamstrings, and glutes isnt what I'd spend my time doing. But to each his own.