There are tradies and there are tradies, just like there are white collar people and white collar people.
You have guys that bust their asses all day and guys that fk around, whether on a job site or WFH, doing the absolute minimum they can get away without being fired.
I respect anybody that busts their ass to put food on the table and a roof over their head.
I don't respect lazy kunts who whine that they deserve more money, respect, status etc when they sit there all day with their thumbs up their asses.
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05-01-2024, 04:51 PM #61Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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^^What an insufferable prick. Need I remind you, you have no value. These are words, this is your post:
Originally posted by Bodhy
I can speak from my own experience that my own work history is a desolate wasteland with specks of employment, literal specks, over the last decade. I've never had a job for longer than 2 weeks and I'm always fired or I need to quit becaue I'm so mentally overwhelmed. I usually just stop showing up and can't even manage to call the employer. I believe the executive dysfunction and-or the autistic burnout are the core contributors to unemployability. I know in my own case a week of full time work and I'm unable to sleep properly, cannot handle basic daily tasks, struggle with simple demands and am basically low-functioning. And without fail, the "two week mark" is the tipping point for when co workers and bosses realize something is wrong with me, I'm coming across as 'stupid and creepy' am too slow to complete tasks in a timely manner, and am basically too incompetent to participate in this seemingly most fundamental aspect of adult life.
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05-01-2024, 05:31 PM #75
I'm fortunate in that my job is mostly officecel with the occasional tradie stint. I make twice as much when I'm in tradie mode but I'm working 12+ hour days on a piece of steel out in the middle of the ocean away from my family. On the other hand, when I'm out here, I'm not working on 4 different projects for 3 different project managers who each think their project should be my top priority.
"Bones heal, pain is temporary, and chicks dig scars" - Evel Knievel
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05-01-2024, 06:00 PM #78
i have a few tradie friends that moved out of the field and into the office and management and they are dreaming of getting back into the field even though the money is great.
it's mostly because the people just above them are victims of the peter principle and don't know wtf they are doing or they guy they replaced fuk'd everything up so badly it took months just to figure out what they did and untangle it to get it working like crap.
uphill battle.
the problem with managers is most of them are plug and play. they just move around managing people and letting everything else go to sht.
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05-01-2024, 06:06 PM #80
Academia sucks ass. They exploit grad students, and it amounts to slave wages. There's a toxic culture of "I endured it, so should you!" as well, mostly enforced by boomer professors and admins whose last real encounter with the jobs economy was 20 years ago. We train more PhDs than there are jobs available. The university system needs reform, but that is a topic for a different thread.
Still, the blatant hostility towards universities these days is even more toxic, spearheading an era of anti-intellectualism and outright stupidity. "We don't need no edumacation" is a pretty harmful position to take. The things you tradies build have to stand. And that requires someone to understand engineering. And someone has to design the software and algorithms the engineers use and improve their methods. And that requires all the CS, math, and physics people. Someone has to figure out the materials. Now you have materials science and chemistry. Gotta keep these people alive and understand how their work affects nature. Now you have medicine and biology. Tradies need the educated. The educated need the tradies. We are a society.Last edited by GhostofCricket; 05-01-2024 at 06:12 PM.
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05-01-2024, 06:10 PM #82
the amount of money linemen make when an ice storm hits in NYS.....my buddies brother in law made enough in OT one yr to buy a fully restored 72 chevelle with a built motor.
you could eat off any surface of this car.
he paid with cash.
however, he was working round the clock with naps here and there in absolutely brutal conditions restoring power to peoples homes.
I could not do that.
not many can.
When you can do something like that you deserve the pay.
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Here's the issue with many tradies. They're scumbags.
My brother in law has a friend who is a plumber, he needed a valve in his house replaced. His friend told him it'd be $500 to replace it, "friend prices"., and that normally it would cost $2k. My brother in law called me to see if that sounded correct. I told him to go to Home Depot and call me when he gets there. I had him buy a new valve and some fittings and guided him on how to replace it. Less than $50 and half an hour for someone who had never done that before.
I have many stories like this. When I bought my first house one of our toilets had a small leak at the wax ring. My wife called a local company and they wanted $900 to fix the issue. I did it for like $15 and 20 minutes of time.When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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They fly me there in a helicopter.
Friend's dad was a lineman and absolutely loved hurricanes. Not only for the overtime, but also because people are very appreciative when you turn their A/C back on. At the end of the first day after Alicia he said they had 10.5 cases of beer on the truck.
My grandfather started out as a lineman, but after the second pole fell on him (they actually climbed poles back then - no bucket trucks) his mom made him promise her he wouldn't climb any more poles and he transferred to an officecel job."Bones heal, pain is temporary, and chicks dig scars" - Evel Knievel
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