There's a biomechanical equation that relates weight and strength in animals. The estimate is that if there was an ant that was the weight of a average man, it wouldn't be able to stand under its own power, let alone lift multiples of its weight. Ii wish I could remember the name of the formula.
And yes, as a shorty, I do have an advantage over taller guys.
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09-03-2020, 12:24 PM #31Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Galatians 4:16
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09-03-2020, 01:02 PM #32
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09-03-2020, 01:07 PM #33
Yeah, thought I'd put out for reference that Julius Maddox, the current raw bench world record holder, has a ratio of 1.75 putting up 770 pounds at a weight of 440 lbs.
Nobody who's 150 lbs benching 265 for the same ratio and claiming to be at world record status is going to put that in a remotely comparable ballpark.Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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09-03-2020, 01:08 PM #34
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09-03-2020, 08:48 PM #36
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09-04-2020, 05:05 AM #38
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09-04-2020, 05:58 AM #40
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Hah, we actually had a thread for this back in the day,me n Ego have references too it in our sigs.
Eventually fell apart cuz life etc
What we did was have one person create a journal in that section to use as a group to place vids and PRs
Bah I lost 4kg all my time back training (13-14 weeks) no excuses before we start
IPF or Wilks points + just highest number I'd say.
Question is, paused or tng? I'll always lean paused but am open to either.
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09-04-2020, 06:10 AM #41
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09-04-2020, 06:29 AM #42
Can we take age into consideration here??
Maybe some sort of age handicap if you will2017 OCB Men's Physique Open 4th place
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09-04-2020, 06:43 AM #43
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sure, older lads get a handicap since they have been training longer
joking, if we use Wilks or IPF they have a pre programmed formula for age over 40 (m1) 50 (m2) and so on.
So that'll all be accounted automatically as well
Under 40 - IPF GL Points: 16.32
over 40 - IPF GL Points: 16.32, Age-adjusted: 17.2
over 50 - Age-adjusted: 20.0
http://weighttraining.nz/ipf_calculator.php
~Demonstration numbers, my 3 lift isn't actually that low thankfully xDLast edited by WolfRose7; 09-04-2020 at 07:01 AM.
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09-04-2020, 06:47 AM #44
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09-04-2020, 07:18 AM #452017 OCB Men's Physique Open 4th place
17 MP Novice 4th
18 MP Novice 5th
18 MP 40+ 3rd
18 MP Open 5'10" & under 1st
18 MP 40+ 1st & Overall..Pro Card Won
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09-04-2020, 07:27 AM #46
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09-04-2020, 07:36 AM #47
Paused, of course. Bar should be held clearly motionless on the chest before pressing. As a group we can referee/vote on borderline lifts.
So far we've got:
Eli
Alex
Smokinal
Wolf
ECG
We can try to get more in, and should decide how to allow late comers, and set a start date/deadline for the first vid.
Is this Big 3 or bench only? I'm fine for either but I'll be training all 3 like any man would.Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
Workout Journal: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=175647011&p=1630928323&viewfull=1#post1630928323
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09-04-2020, 07:37 AM #48
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09-04-2020, 08:25 AM #50
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09-04-2020, 08:42 AM #51
We could even make things interesting and do more than just the Big 3.
For instance, some kind of vertical pull would be a good thing to add, as bicep and lat strength are somewhat omitted from just bench/squat/DL.
EDIT: But we would need at least five for a nice round number. Votes for a 4th-5th lift?Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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09-04-2020, 09:38 AM #52
Just quit making excuses and lift. So many people want to complain about any number of reasons that they are not as strong as they want to be. No one wants to hear it...and it really does not matter.
I used to workout with a guy about 6'2 but he had the biggest wing span I may have ever seen. I think it was like 6'8. It was scarry as hell spotting him for bench because when he was locked out he was 5-6" above any of the safeties on the back of the racks to catch the weight. He literally had to do a 1/4 rep to lower the weight to rack it.
On top of his crazy long arm span, he also benched close grip. Like REAL shoulder width close grip. He said it just felt better. He was not a huge guy either, maybe 220. He was working to get a 405 single. His reps were right there at 315x10.
Dont know if he ever hit it....but he was killed a few years back in a motorcycle crash. Good dude.
So quit bitching and just lift. We ALL have issues we work around. I have a bad shoulder, and bad hip. My shoulder forces me to be very careful with my form on bench (which is why I bench so slowly). My hip forces me to squat close stance (shoulder width) not great for power, but I can still squat mid 500's at 200lbs. I dont bitch that I wish I could squat low bar wide stance for power. I just squat.RAW lifts
635 Dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mATRBZ0gwdg
585x7 Dead reps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yf2ZkdNNNQ
420 Bench (paused) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2_Q-TLIB8
535 Squat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdgVaiTi4-8&feature=youtu.be
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09-04-2020, 10:10 AM #53
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09-04-2020, 10:18 AM #54
I was thinking OHP but that might overlap with the bench press too much.
Sticking with the Big 3 is fine with me, especially since a vertical pull would target really the only group and motion that is otherwise left out, but pullups won't do given bodyweight discrepancies. I still think the biceps and a major section of the back are kind of left out of this and shouldn't be, but oh well.Bench: 350
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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09-04-2020, 10:24 AM #55
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09-04-2020, 10:28 AM #56
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09-04-2020, 05:32 PM #58
I'm going to sit down to pee on this one guys.
I'm just not into chasing numbers. This got me curious though and I put up 225 @168lb, 51yo tonight and stopped there; probably about my max right now.
If I injured myself going for numbers and couldn't train/compete I'd be furious at myself. I train extremely hard but never dip under 6-7 reps; and those sets go on to be drop sets with 12-14 reps total.
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09-05-2020, 04:59 AM #59
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09-05-2020, 05:20 AM #60
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Same thing basically
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