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    AOC: A system that allows billionaires to exist alongside extreme poverty is immoral

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/22/alex...s-immoral.html



    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez agrees that "a system that allows billionaires to exist" is immoral.

    The freshman congresswoman responded affirmatively to a question on the subject at an event celebrating Martin Luther King Jr. Day on Monday in New York, just as many of the world's billionaires were gathering for the start of the annual Davos economic confab in Switzerland amid concerns over economic uncertainty and rising populism.

    "I don't think that necessarily means that all billionaires are immoral," she qualified, citing Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, both major philanthropists. Gates is expected to attend Davos again this year.

    Still, she said it is "wrong" that billionaires can coexist in a country alongside "parts of Alabama where people are still getting ringworm because they don't have access to public health."

    At MLK Now, an event at Riverside Church in New York City's Harlem neighborhood, Ocasio-Cortez spoke out against economic inequality in a conversation with journalist and author Ta-Nehisi Coates.

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    The idea that an American should aspire to "'be a billionaire and own more than millions of families combined' is not an aspirational or good thing," she said.
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    She looks like a llama. Can't take a llama seriously when it comes to politics.
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    interesting take on the issues once again, OP.
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    Originally Posted by deepfat View Post
    She looks like a llama. Can't take a llama seriously when it comes to politics.
    she seriously looks like a communist
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    it's such a stupid concept too.

    What do we do, create a wealth ceiling? And what happens when someone reaches is? Ok Bezos, that's enough. You either have to surrender your share of Amazon or stop growing
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    Originally Posted by deepfat View Post
    She looks like a llama. Can't take a llama seriously when it comes to politics.
    Llama woman bad.
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    Llama woman bad.
    I'm sure she's a demon in the sack. From the neck up, very llama-esque.
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    This idea that if we spread the wealth out that everyone will become middle class is garbage.

    No, instead, we'd all be poor.

    Bill Gates actually just had a pretty good Tweet related to this a few days ago. People really need some perspective.

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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    This idea that if we spread the wealth out that everyone will become middle class is garbage.

    No, instead, we'd all be poor.

    Bill Gates actually just had a pretty good Tweet related to this a few days ago. People really need some perspective.
    Bill Gates is a supporter of wealth redistribution.

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    His argument is essentially the same, by helping developing countries to become self-sufficient it helps the global economy

    He's also a supporter of optimist Stephen Pinker who wrote a book about how the world is becoming safer and quality of life is improving despite the constant negativity in the news.
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    jesus christ I thought this was a photoshop to make her look evil/sinister.

    Looks like the goddamn emperor from star wars lmfao
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    The Obama's are projected to become billionaires. Is she stating that the Obama's existence is immoral? Enquiring minds would like to know........
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    The wealthy already pay 80%+ of all taxes. 'The wealthy are immoral.' Go figure.
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    How far does this reach and where does it end? Is it immoral that some countries have more natural resources than others? Should nations GIVE their resources to some sewer country? But on the subject of wealth, if she has some extra cash why doesn't she donate 100% of that? Are you only entitled to keep your earnings just so long as someone else earned more than you?
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    looks like she is about to say "rebel scum" in that pic
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    The top 26 billionaires own $1.4 trillion — as much as 3.8 billion other people
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/busin...vos/index.html

    This doesn't include the wealthier people you never hear about
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    looks like she is about to say "rebel scum" in that pic
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    The top 26 billionaires own $1.4 trillion — as much as 3.8 billion other people
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/busin...vos/index.html
    The way I see that statistic, is what I aspire to be. A goal, because I am ambitious and I don't need other people's money.

    The left sees it as, "I want part of it even though I didn't earn it, because I'm a free-loader."
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    The way I see that statistic, is what I aspire to be. A goal, because I am ambitious and I don't need other people's money.

    The left sees it as, "I want part of it even though I didn't earn it, because I'm a free-loader."
    The right believe in self-responsibility and inequality and the left believe in helping others and equality.
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    The right believe in self-responsibility and inequality and the left believe in helping others and equality.
    Sorry. You don’t get to claim you are for helping others while at the same time wanting to steal from others.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Bill Gates is a supporter of wealth redistribution.

    'Foreign Aid Saves Lives and We Should Give More'
    https://www.gatesnotes.com/Foreign-Aid

    His argument is essentially the same, by helping developing countries to become self-sufficient it helps the global economy

    He's also a supporter of optimist Stephen Pinker who wrote a book about how the world is becoming safer and quality of life is improving despite the constant negativity in the news.
    Not his though, thats why he set up his charity and took advantage of every loophole imaginable.

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    Originally Posted by goody1 View Post
    Sorry. You don’t get to claim you are for helping others while at the same time wanting to steal from others.
    The left believe in helping:

    -veterans
    -the poor
    -the disabled
    -the widowed
    -youth
    -young parents and homeowners
    -unions and workers

    They also believe in investing tax-payer dollars into infrastructure and rebuilding at home instead of wasting it on pointless wars.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    that's fairly robotic. The right believe in self-responsibility and inequality and the left believe in helping others and equality.
    That is not accurate. The right believes that everyone has the opportunity to become an entrepreneur and gives you this right by lowering taxes, lowering regulations, making it easier to start a company. This is helping others and business is an even playing field. The left believes that helping others means taking from others.

    Higher taxes, more regulation, etc. puts the brakes on anyone who wants to start on their own, no matter what their political affiliation may be. The right does not believe in inequality.

    Again, no person here has challenged the following: The wealthy pay 80%+ of all taxes. Why does the left want to increase taxes even more for the wealthy? Why is increasing taxes the answer to "equality?"
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    She looks like a llama. Can't take a llama seriously when it comes to politics.
    You'd better start. A new Axios/SurveyMonkey poll finds that 74% of Democrats (and people who lean Dem) would consider voting for Ocasio-Cortez if she were old enough to run for president.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    The top 26 billionaires own $1.4 trillion — as much as 3.8 billion other people
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/busin...vos/index.html

    This doesn't include the wealthier people you never hear about
    When I get my paycheck, I have noticed that its lower every time those people get more money. Its crazy how that works.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    The left believe in helping:

    -veterans
    Yes the left was pretty upset when the conservative president dropped the ball with the VA office.

    wait...
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    > "Our workers are paid too little"
    > "Let's have a never-ending influx of foreign workers"

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    The left believe in helping...

    -veterans
    -the poor
    -the disabled
    -the widowed
    -youth
    -young parents and homeowners
    -unions and workers

    ...fall for the lies and fake promises that they tell them.
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