Anyone here is able to clean bulk without loosing their abs?

[Drekko]

Hey everyone

The avatar of me is like before i started my clean bulk lol. Lost them abs

I have put on about 3kg, think half of that is just belly fat

Seems to me I always find I dont gain any size without eating enough to gain a bit of fat on my belly

I have tried just increasing by small amount of calories but did not gain any size untill I start to eat enough that also puts on fat

sucks hey.................

Will do another quick cut in Jan I guess

[AFC96]

Ive been lean bulking for 3 months going 4.

Have gained 3.5 and my abs are still clear. Last time it was 1072HD now its probably 720HD.

[Drekko]

Ive been lean bulking for 3 months going 4.

Have gained 3.5 and my abs are still clear. Last time it was 1072HD now its probably 720HD.

How long have you been training and how much did you weight 3 months ago?

I think I have reached a point were it is bloody hard to gain just lean muscle now if not any new muscle ( naturally lol )

[AFC96]

How long have you been training and how much did you weight 3 months ago?

I think I have reached a point were it is bloody hard to gain just lean muscle now if not any new muscle ( naturally lol )

Lol im still under a year of training, so maybe that's what causedd me to still be "lean".

Have you tried reducing your surplus?

+Some people store fat differently. Maybe yours just stores in The abs region.

[tonyl96]

I could if I kept the surplus at like 200 cal, but lifes to short for that. I like a 500 cal + surplus, good muscle gain, good strength, you loose your abs and who gives a fuk. Its winter, no one see's them until summer so worry about that later with a strong cut

[Former300lber]

I eat so much my abs disappeared by the 3rd meal anyways, so it didn't matter to me.. as long as my gut is flat, I don't have any overhang, and I'm getting bigger, Idgaf.. but gains are coming super slow now.. dem feels.

[Drekko]

I could if I kept the surplus at like 200 cal, but lifes to short for that. I like a 500 cal + surplus, good muscle gain, good strength, you loose your abs and who gives a fuk. Its winter, no one see's them until summer so worry about that later with a strong cut

Im in australia, its summer here right now lol

Next year I might do a but 6 weeks b4 summer hits

[Drekko]

Lol im still under a year of training, so maybe that's what causedd me to still be "lean".

Wait till you train for another 4 years lol

Gains will be harder lol ( natural gains )

[rhadam]

I don't ever try to keep abs while bulking, it's too painful of a process and i think will inhibit real muscle gain. You're so worried about not going too far in to a surplus, you don't maximize your bulk.

[BradFTW]

Keeps abs while dirty bulking crew

[Drekko]

Keeps abs while dirty bulking crew

lol

[PBateman2]

I don't ever try to keep abs while bulking, it's too painful of a process and i think will inhibit real muscle gain. You're so worried about not going too far in to a surplus, you don't maximize your bulk.

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[Drekko]

I don't ever try to keep abs while bulking, it's too painful of a process and i think will inhibit real muscle gain. You're so worried about not going too far in to a surplus, you don't maximize your bulk.

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[InItForFitness]

My initial bulk was +33lbs in 10 months and I was able to maintain visibility throughout the process.


At this point I no longer care.

[JerryB]

A lean bulk in my mind is BS.

I just balance my caloric intake to my estimated caloric requirements to add muscle mass in a tolerance range of body fat.
The upper level of body fat is 12% which still allows the abs to show.

I think a majority of guys attempting some lean bulk physiques lack muscle belly development.
Just do a front lat spread and if the V taper is missing that show a lack of muscle belly development.
Their pecs lack thickness.

They are confusing having low subcutaneous fat to show a six abs as being muscular with fully developed muscular bellies. The latter takes time to develop. The former only requires a misconception of being muscular.

[desslok]

I don't ever try to keep abs while bulking, it's too painful of a process and i think will inhibit real muscle gain. You're so worried about not going too far in to a surplus, you don't maximize your bulk.

Its a big mental game also. Most people like to see "instant" progress or they get discouraged. So bulk/cut helps with that. Slow bulk while keeping abs is like watching a plant grow.

[James199117]

reevaluate your training intensity if your not making gains cuz.