If all the Mr.Olympias were in 1 lineup

[the5thhorseman]

If every Mr.O with today's knowledge and stuff competed against one another at a show, how would they do? Give a brief explanation for your top6.

13.Dickerson
12.Bannout
11.Scott
10.Columbu
9.Zane
8.Dex
7.Haney
6.Heath-good arms, lower back. Very narrow, weak lat spreads
5.Dorian-Good back and calves. Great conditioning
4.Cutler-pretty complete, wide waist, his best at the 2009 Oly, is hard 2 beat
3.Arnold-his height would be a liability. Lagging shoulders and traps
2.Ronnie-almost unbeatable, weaknesses include a huge gut and lagging calves.
1.Sergio-conditioning was weak, which could be improved with today's advancements in science, flat biceps

[RoroCwalker]

Ronnie/Sergio/Arnold

1. Ronnie, overpowering genetics, not human.
2. Sergio, ahead of his era, mind blowing waist/lats/quads, his arms were insane, great back as well, he's Ronnie's ancestor. That was almost 45~50 years ago. Just imagine...
3. Arnold, an upgraded version of Larry Scott, his height and size were too dominating, statue-esque physique and iconic of bodybuilding. His arms, chest, back, legs, everything was on point, absolutely perfect.
4. Dorian, he would be a better version of Cutler.
5. Haney, among the line up he would most resemble Rhoden's current situation, not as big as the other guys but has some very pleasing details, thick chest, good back, small waist.
6. Bannout, I have this feeling that he would look absolutely insane if he was bigger and maintained his lines, especially with that back and arms.

That being said, they're all speculations of course.

[MaKaiser]

It'd probably go

1) Ronnie Coleman
2) Lee Haney
3) Arnold Schwarzenegger
4) Dorian Yates
5) Jay Cutler
6) Sergio or Franco

[handyman89]

It'd probably go

1) Ronnie Coleman
2) Lee Haney
3) Arnold Schwarzenegger
4) Dorian Yates
5) Jay Cutler
6) Sergio or Franco

same but change 6 to Phil/Dexter and switch 3 and 4

[PillClinton]

Then Ronnie would win and Arnold wouldn't make top 5

[Unbiasedfan]

The mother of all speculative threads.

[Patrick-DK]

same but change 6 to Phil/Dexter and switch 3 and 4

Lol: "Same, but change 50 % of what you said"

[Loctus]

Amazingly unique thread, how did you come up with this spectacular thread idea, OP?

[the5thhorseman]

Amazingly unique thread, how did you come up with this spectacular thread idea, OP?

Loctus, there's no need to be snide.

Edit: A lot of people are saying it is a great idea. I just thought you were being sarcastic since you made it sound too good. If you are being sincere, I apologize and thank you for those kind words.

[handyman89]

Lol: "Same, but change 50 % of what you said"

sounds like the ifbb section haha

[Lewis185]

It depends who was or is sponsored by muscletec at the time of the comp. srs

[Unbiasedfan]

It depends who was or is sponsored by muscletec at the time of the comp. srs

Why didn't muscletech made Jay win against Ronnie, until 2006?

[Lewis185]

Why didn't muscletech made Jay win against Ronnie, until 2006?

Ronnie was the clear winner and no amont of money can change that outcome

[Unbiasedfan]

Ronnie was the clear winner and no amont of money can change that outcome

Thats one explanation.

[anonymous]

Arnold would destroy them all. Arnie + Todays stuff? Jesus. Even Gunter had Ronnie beat in 2002 (and was disgustingly robbed along with Levrone) and Gunter does not have Arnie genetics.

[PillClinton]

Arnold would destroy them all. Arnie + Todays stuff? Jesus. Even Gunter had Ronnie beat in 2002 (and was disgustingly robbed along with Levrone) and Gunter does not have Arnie genetics.

Weak shoulders/traps/quads/hams

learn2bodybuild

[Grapplingmuscle]

Lol at Gunter beating Ronnie. Gunter is awesome and a fan favorite for sure, but Mr Olympia? Nah, not quite. 5th place was a respectable and great showing for him.

[MaKaiser]

Arnold would destroy them all. Arnie + Todays stuff? Jesus. Even Gunter had Ronnie beat in 2002 (and was disgustingly robbed along with Levrone) and Gunter does not have Arnie genetics.

If only I could line up like 5 of you.

[the5thhorseman]

Arnold would destroy them all. Arnie + Todays stuff? Jesus. Even Gunter had Ronnie beat in 2002 (and was disgustingly robbed along with Levrone) and Gunter does not have Arnie genetics.

Yeah but the 2002 Mr.Olympia was probably Ronnie's worst year out of his reign. It is debatable if they were better than Ronnie, however to dethrone a Mr.Olympia you have to be a lot better( sometimes even then it might not be enough, as it was the case with someone who torn a lot of his muscles). Gunter was big and conditioned, but he just doesn't have great genetics, lots of weaknesses with his physique. Levrone was already washed up, with weak legs and back. If you had a 1994-1999 peeled Levrone, he would've taken the Crown. Even the 2000 Levrone would've probably won. If 2001 or 2009 Jay was there, then yes, Ronnie would've lost, however he decided to sit that Olympia out. If you use a 2003 or 2005 Ronnie he would wipe the floor with all of them. Bottom line, you have to use each Mr.O at his best. Don't use 2002 Ronnie, use 03/05 Ronnie.

[Unbiasedfan]

If you use a 2003 or 2005 Ronnie he would wipe the floor with all of them.

Or 98, or 99 or 2000, or 2001 Ac, or 2004, etc

[PillClinton]

Or 98, or 99 or 2000, or 2001 Ac, or 2004, etc

Truly is a genetic wonder. The fact that he was strong + had lines + conditioning + great muscle bellies is almost too good to be true.

[Canuck77]

If only I could line up like 5 of you.

lmao...pimpin ain't easy, says this guy in the vid...

[Oscar69er]

Ronnie n Jay top 2
Phil fighting Dorian for the third spot

[dom1987]

1.Ronnie - most size and conditioned, best overall package
2.Dorian - even though Jay has more size in places, dorians grainy knarley look gives him the 2nd spot
3.Jay - his herculean shape combined with tons of mass and good condition
4.Phil - good shape, thick, serperated, full and shredded.
5.Dex - great overall package at his best, and in 2008 he created an illusion that made him look way bigger then he is, he also has one of the best shapes of all times.

I dont know why people are even thinking about included Arnold and haney in there top five in terms of size they were generations behind, the different drugs put these guys in a different league to 70's and 80's and early 90's athletes.

[the5thhorseman]

Or 98, or 99 or 2000, or 2001 Ac, or 2004, etc

2009 Jay was pretty good, he might've been able to go toe to toe with all other versions of Coleman except for 2003 and 2005.

[the5thhorseman]

1.Ronnie - most size and conditioned, best overall package
2.Dorian - even though Jay has more size in places, dorians grainy knarley look gives him the 2nd spot
3.Jay - his herculean shape combined with tons of mass and good condition
4.Phil - good shape, thick, serperated, full and shredded.
5.Dex - great overall package at his best, and in 2008 he created an illusion that made him look way bigger then he is, he also has one of the best shapes of all times.

I dont know why people are even thinking about included Arnold and haney in there top five in terms of size they were generations behind, the different drugs put these guys in a different league to 70's and 80's and early 90's athletes.

We said if everybody from the past also had access to today's dat dere... do you even read? Obviously guys like Zane or Arnold wouldn't even get to the NPC with they way they looked back in the day.

[Unbiasedfan]

2009 Jay was pretty good, he might've been able to go toe to toe with all other versions of Coleman except for 2003 and 2005.

He was 255, and despite his quad stomp he had very apparent flaws.



The compete package ronnie had in his younger O winning physiques (99/98), would be more than enough to beat Jay in 09 imo. In 2000 he was very freaky and in 2001 AC his condition was off the charts. Always hard to say since we can't really compare.

I now think 2001 Jay would give more of a fight imo. If 2001 O ronnie beat 01 Jay, i think its safe to say an on ronnie would have handled an 09 Jay quite easily.

[PillClinton]

wow, phil getting stomped on by jay and dex in that pic

[RoroCwalker]

Why didn't muscletech made Jay win against Ronnie, until 2006?

*Edit, read it wrong

Yes, MuscleTech did give Jay the win in 2006, it was an obvious win for Ronnie.

[Oscar69er]

Jay did win in 01 tbh