Phil Heath: it aint that serious lol

[KuRdiSh]

theres a thread on md about the faces phil in particular makes when he poses, angry and worked up etc..

Anyways! Whats your guys' take on guys yelling during poses and making crazy faces etc? It is a competition but what defines 'taking it too far'?

the post:Does anyone notice that Phil Heath seems to have this attitude and make these serious, angry, war faces when he poses and competes. He pumps his fists, has this really serious face, and gets really amped up.......

This is not a combat sport buddy. There is nothing active about it. It is a beauty pageant for muscles lol. You are not gearing up to slam people, throw punches, tackle or take big hits, or complete any physically grueling task. Posing is tiresome but lasts like 10min tops during prejudging haha.....I have to admit i have ALWAYS found it comical when people on stage are pushing, trying to amp themselves up, grunting, yelling, screaming, or acting like there is ANYTHING fierce about posing on stage lol

Is this insecurity about something he might feel is not the most masculine and its an attempt to masculinize it a little lol

[TTimmerman]

what defines 'taking it too far'?

stepping over the line and acting like a punk

[SammyJr]

ok im cool

[Fairfax]

Doesn't bother me. If someone ends up making themselves look silly, they won't be helping themselves judging-wise. Kevin Levrone used to do the 'fierce' thing to a degree and never looked silly IMO.

[RoroCwalker]

1 word describes why he acted so stressed out ;

Kai

[littledel]

I'd say it's too far when your behavior is disrespectful and/or unfair to the other competitors. They all deserve fair comparisons and going over the line was just disrespectful to everyone else in the lineup.

[Wzn]

stepping over the line and acting like a punk

Oh no you didnt

[lancs_hotpot]

Stepping over the line is breaking the rules.
Being confident and dominating the stage is not. Nothing wrong with it.

[RoroCwalker]

Stepping over the line is breaking the rules.
Being confident and dominating the stage is not. Nothing wrong with it.

Did you see how confident and dominating Arnold was on stage, yet so calm.
And did you see the stares he gave Kai? This is beyond being confident and dominating, this is plain out trying to **** on him.

[MaKaiser]

Stepping over the line is breaking the rules.
Being confident and dominating the stage is not. Nothing wrong with it.

Is there an official rule in the IFBB for line crossing?

[RoroCwalker]

Also, Kai said something about Phil stepping into the box or taking the box during the Sheru conference.
What was that all about?

[TTimmerman]

Oh no you didnt

oh yes phil did...

[Big Slim DaDDy]

As if Phil is the only one who acts "pumped up" when he poses. *facepalm* I'll find you pics of dozens of current competitors doing the exact same thing.

[lancs_hotpot]

Did you see how confident and dominating Arnold was on stage, yet so calm.
And did you see the stares he gave Kai? This is beyond being confident and dominating, this is plain out trying to **** on him.

I think if that upsets anyone they should man up and do the same.

Is there an official rule in the IFBB for line crossing?

Dunno to be honest. Its an unfair advantage and the line is there so youd think so.

[DomzyCuttin]

I think its ok. Hes in the zone, if he can contract just a bit harder or pose a bit better because he has psyched him self up, then thats good for him. Or if the noise intimidates and throws someone else off, then thats another plus. Stepping passed the line.. Not cool. But if anyones ever competed its not the same looking in as it is being there. The lights are on you, your nervous, your can barely comprehend whats going on sometimes especially because your on no sleep and your dehydrated. Most of my shows I dont even know who I was compared to exactly or how many rounds I did. It takes footage or photos to piece it together. Its like playing football, you can look at people playing and say wtf why didnt he move, or do the play differently. When the nerves are going and the helmets on, you just see whats in front of you.

[RoroCwalker]

I think if that upsets anyone they should man up and do the same.

''Man up''? It's the other way around, the guy who cheated needs to ''man up'' come back to a fair play.
Cheating like he did proves he was intimated by Kai.

[TTimmerman]

I think its ok. Hes in the zone, if he can contract just a bit harder or pose a bit better because he has psyched him self up, then thats good for him. Or if the noise intimidates and throws someone else off, then thats another plus. Stepping passed the line.. Not cool. But if anyones ever competed its not the same looking in as it is being there. The lights are on you, your nervous, your can barely comprehend whats going on sometimes especially because your on no sleep and your dehydrated. Most of my shows I dont even know who I was compared to exactly or how many rounds I did. It takes footage or photos to piece it together. Its like playing football, you can look at people playing and say wtf why didnt he move, or do the play differently. When the nerves are going and the helmets on, you just see whats in front of you.

this is why you often see people doing the wrong poses, turning the wrong side. even though they've done that sequence hundreds of times

[Ajthemeso]

oh yes phil did...

phil knows.

[lancs_hotpot]

''Man up''? It's the other way around, the guy who cheated needs to ''man up'' come back to a fair play.
Cheating like he did proves he was intimated by Kai.

Thread is about pulling faces, shouting etc. Thats not cheating.

[RoroCwalker]

Thread is about pulling faces, shouting etc. Thats not cheating.

I thought you were referring to the line when you said ''man up [...]''

The faces he pulled do absolutely nothing but prove he was intimated by Kai.
Yet you can see when he ''toiser''(don't know the word in english), look up and down with lips in a kiss sort of way at Kai, he was trying to look more intimidating and as if Kai was nothing but a peanut.

[TTimmerman]

''toiser''(don't know the word in english),

pouted

[KuRdiSh]

I thought you were referring to the line when you said ''man up [...]''

The faces he pulled do absolutely nothing but prove he was intimated by Kai.
Yet you can see when he ''toiser''(don't know the word in english), look up and down with lips in a kiss sort of way at Kai, he was trying to look more intimidating and as if Kai was nothing but a peanut.

It's not just during the Olympia he yells during a lot of poses in different contests. I think it's okay, it's obvious that with some guy screaming when he hits every pose its gonna throw you off . I'm not just so singling out Phil btw I know more than one guy does it

[flangmasterj]

I like Phil Heath.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

The faces he pulled do absolutely nothing but prove he was intimated by Kai.
.

Thats your opinion, so how is it proven?

[peteyyytran]

stepping over the line and acting like a punk

^ this. coming from someone that is/was a HUGE fan of phil. he got to meet phil at last years O and he even said himself, Phil was kinda a dick. He said phil came off very arrogant and wasn't that humble. he especially said this when it came down to kai and phil posing down at the O. he pretty much said what tim is saying here, he was a punk, was a dck on stage to kai and was acting dumb. kai on the other hand like many others saw, he was just REALLY tired and out of it. his source said that kai actually missed a meal because one of his friends had forgotten to wake him up at a specific time. pretty interesting stuff he was telling me but at the same time really cool because hes close with george farah and muscle meds.

[RoroCwalker]

pouted

+ he really looked at him up and down like ''bitches'' do to other ''bitches''

It's not just during the Olympia he yells during a lot of poses in different contests. I think it's okay, it's obvious that with some guy screaming when he hits every pose its gonna throw you off . I'm not just so singling out Phil btw I know more than one guy does it

It's ok to yell, Coleman used to do it, OOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH, HMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPP WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUH as he was hitting poses but it was obviously not in Phil Heath's manners and intention.

[RoroCwalker]

Thats your opinion, so how is it proven?

Ok, it just seemed obvious and even Farah pointed it out.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Ok, it just seemed obvious and even Farah pointed it out.

What I'm saying is, someone states an opinion, uses the word proven, but the only "proof" so to speak is that they themselves believe that opinion. Farah was Kai's prep coach his opinion could be a tad bias.

[RoroCwalker]

What I'm saying is, someone states an opinion, uses the word proven, but the only "proof" so to speak is that they themselves believe that opinion. Farah was Kai's prep coach his opinion could be a tad bias.

Alright, all I'm saying is that I'm convinced that Phil was intimated by Kai, let's not derail the thread now like we have done in the past.

[MaKaiser]

Dunno to be honest. Its an unfair advantage and the line is there so youd think so.

I honestly think its there just to give a rough guide as to where to stand.
I like that it gets a bit heated with people trying to one up each other.