Not in my Mouth

[supertracylynn]

I've been hitting "the gym" pretty hard for the last month: jogging, elliptical, strength training, calesthenics, and pilates-type stuff. Oddly, my body is less hungry when I'm working out hard than when I have a sedentary day. I've started using a protein shake/ meal replacement in the mornings to help boost those calories which has brought me up to about 1500 calories at the end of the day instead of 1200-1300. But still. I boosted the calories to see if this is a plateau or simply if my body is happy here. (I'm pescetarian, so the low calories is expecte.)
According to my Body Bugg, I burn no less than 2200 calories a day, 2800-3000 on a long run day. No, I'm not dropping weight - my scale hasn't moved at all.

Does any one have any ideas WHY I'm not as hungry?

[AlwaysTryin]

Strong avi to post title...

Maybe you're consuming too much "protein" from certain sources

[SOJA]

Protein helps with satiety. Hunger feelings are controlled by a hormone called ghrelin, which makes you hungry. My honest suggestion would be splitting meals up so you can get your calories in. Assuming you're bulking. I don't want to eat or feel hungry after a hard day working out. I get hungry hours later. The only thing I want after working out is ice water.

[SuffolkPunch]

It's normal to be less hungry on days you do vigorous exercise - at least I found it to be true. I sometimes just feel nauseous if I try to eat lots of food after some workouts. By the way, if you get protein from solid sources such as meat on NWO days, you might feel less hungry, especially if padding it out with lots of salad or veg.

Weight loss can happen in fits and starts, just keep plugging away. It's because your body hangs on to water and then just releases it all in a short space of time.

[SOJA]

To further expand on Suffolk's post, here's one I made today on the "squishy fat" subject.

In that case I can't comment. What remaining fat is the area I described. I don't want to plan out a carb day (see: http://www.leangains.com/2010/01/how...tion-part.html) so I'll just wait until it drops on its own. It comes and goes. I know for a fact I dropped weight since last week because I can see massive changes in my face and the increasing vascularity in my hands and lower legs, but the scale remains the same. Weight loss isn't "linear", but in a way it is. Cell depletion and the incoming water storage will cause the individual to retroactively assume they're not losing weight.

The point of my post is, the closer you get to leanness, your body, at least in my experience now and in the past a few years ago, will always want to fill depleted fat cells with water, resulting in no numerical weight change. Please use the mirror and the fit of your clothes. I know in the last two weeks I've dropped a pant size and my face has become more aesthetic than it was a week ago, yet the scale has not budged for almost a week.

I should have clarified that weight loss is linear, the scale just won't say it so. Plateaus don't really exist in my honest opinion. As long as you're in deficit, you will lose weight. Can't ruin the basic laws of thermodynamics. Plateaus in weight loss occur for the aforementioned reason, but they can also occur when the end user does not accurately track their food intake or greatly overestimates their energy burn or underestimates their caloric intake. When it comes to weight gain for bulking, similar concepts apply, but mostly because they're not eating enough (see: not tracking their food intake accurately) or they have a greater energy burn than what they thought they did.

[adamrochester]

what are you macros ?

[supertracylynn]

Macros displayed as protein/carb/fat (cals in/ cals burned according to my BodyBugg)
Oct 11: 95/202/44 (1477/2805)
Oct 10: 158/201/51 (2250/3090, 410 were from alcohol, lol)
Oct 9: 70/149/6 (920/2597)
Oct 8: 71/232//36 (1476/2609)
Oct 7: 57/204/11 (1398/2865, 296 were from alcohol, very emotional day)
Oct 6: 71/182/36 (1364/3042)
Oct 5: 65/209/33 (1673/3179, 425 was from alcohol)
Oct 4: 107/241/30 (1621,2894)

Is that enough information?

[GavriloPrincip]

We're going to need another angle of your avi without the hand to be able to properly assess your condition and recommend any further steps.

[ArchangelEST]

Macros displayed as protein/carb/fat (cals in/ cals burned according to my BodyBugg)
Oct 11: 95/202/44 (1477/2805)
Oct 10: 158/201/51 (2250/3090, 410 were from alcohol, lol)
Oct 9: 70/149/6 (920/2597)
Oct 8: 71/232//36 (1476/2609)
Oct 7: 57/204/11 (1398/2865, 296 were from alcohol, very emotional day)
Oct 6: 71/182/36 (1364/3042)
Oct 5: 65/209/33 (1673/3179, 425 was from alcohol)
Oct 4: 107/241/30 (1621,2894)

Is that enough information?

Protein low, fat low.

Correct to this:

Protein - 1g per LB of Bodyweight
Fats - 0.5g per LB of Bodyweight.

Rest of calories - whatever you want macro wise. Check the numbers your BodyBugg gives and subtract about 10-20% of calories for a good weight loss.
Don't look at the scale exclusively. It's not that important.

Carbs retain a lot of water - can mask weight loss.


*** Right now you are Protein deficient, Fat deficient, and over-all calorie deficient. Your body does not like this, and can do a whole bunch of strange stuff related to several different hormones. All those can mask weight loss, cause depression, cause lack of hunger, excessive hunger... you name it.
Make those changes ASAP!

Making this perfectly clear - at your level of activity you should probably eat at around 2200-2700kcal a day for slow and controlled fat loss.
What you are doing is basically starving.

[Fight4Yoked]

We're going to need another angle of your avi without the hand to be able to properly assess your condition and recommend any further steps.

This^

[supertracylynn]

Protein low, fat low.
Protein - 1g per LB of Bodyweight
Fats - 0.5g per LB of Bodyweight.
*** Right now you are Protein deficient, Fat deficient, and over-all calorie deficient. Your body does not like this, and can do a whole bunch of strange stuff related to several different hormones. All those can mask weight loss, cause depression, cause lack of hunger, excessive hunger... you name it.
Make those changes ASAP!
What you are doing is basically starving.

I am going to take this as permission to eat more nut-butter!
Which is better, almond butter or peanut butter?

[Mesonychia]

I am going to take this as permission to eat more nut-butter!
Which is better, almond butter or peanut butter?

Some would say that almond butter has the better fat profile, but its a matter of preference, really.

[Xfaxtor]

I am going to take this as permission to eat more nut-butter!
Which is better, almond butter or peanut butter?

The one who makes you hit your desired macros and is superior taste wise is better...

[Jenc1125]

I am going to take this as permission to eat more nut-butter!
Which is better, almond butter or peanut butter?

Which one do you like more? Eat more of that one. : )

[supertracylynn]

Totally went balls out this morning... And have had 100cal of my protein shake and 3/4c of sweet potatoes since then (that was before 11a, it's 9p now). My cals and macros? 1244cal, 98g protein, 111g carbs, 47g fat. Working on my 11th glass of water.
This is not easy for me.

[trance__dreamer]

1244cal

goodnight sweet hair, libido, nail/skin health, etc.

11 glasses of water? gat dang.

that's pretty impressive! =o

[spicyprice]

Protein low, fat low.

Correct to this:

Protein - 1g per LB of Bodyweight
Fats - 0.5g per LB of Bodyweight.

Rest of calories - whatever you want macro wise. Check the numbers your BodyBugg gives and subtract about 10-20% of calories for a good weight loss.
Don't look at the scale exclusively. It's not that important.

Carbs retain a lot of water - can mask weight loss.


*** Right now you are Protein deficient, Fat deficient, and over-all calorie deficient. Your body does not like this, and can do a whole bunch of strange stuff related to several different hormones. All those can mask weight loss, cause depression, cause lack of hunger, excessive hunger... you name it.
Make those changes ASAP!

Making this perfectly clear - at your level of activity you should probably eat at around 2200-2700kcal a day for slow and controlled fat loss.
What you are doing is basically starving.

This man is SPOT ON.

[ArchangelEST]

Totally went balls out this morning... And have had 100cal of my protein shake and 3/4c of sweet potatoes since then (that was before 11a, it's 9p now). My cals and macros? 1244cal, 98g protein, 111g carbs, 47g fat. Working on my 11th glass of water.
This is not easy for me.

Come on, pack that food in. Ice-Cream, who doesn't like Ice-cream? Stick it in there. Use milk, ice-cream, some protein powder and make a milkshake. Doesn't get much better than that.

11 glasses of water? Now that sounds unpleasant? Any particular reason for this - are you really that thirsty?

[spicyprice]

Totally went balls out this morning... And have had 100cal of my protein shake and 3/4c of sweet potatoes since then (that was before 11a, it's 9p now). My cals and macros? 1244cal, 98g protein, 111g carbs, 47g fat. Working on my 11th glass of water.
This is not easy for me.

I will be honest, this sounds very eating disorderish.

How long have you been eating this little?

[staunchkg]

I can't concentrate on this Thread properly, to distracted with AVI and thread title.

[PR1MO]

Strong avi to post title...

Maybe you're consuming too much "protein" from certain sources

Soooo repped when off spread

[Valenzuelatech]

I'm getting mixed messages here

[adamrochester]

up protein to at least 145

[JayDee251985]

Maybe you need my protein in your mouth sweety

[FourToEight]

Is stomach ok?

[supertracylynn]

By the end of most nights I usually end with 1450-1600 calories.
The water intake is normal, I usually drink 4 (25)oz water bottles a day.

Last night, though? My UFC friend invited me over to meet his other UFC friend. We had a couple shots, came to my place for a couple shots, went to a bar with a shot, I ate a nectarine and plum, went to a strip club, went back to my friend's place with another shot... Then protein shake, lol. I still haven't slept!
Somewhere in there, I lost ONE hubcap. Um. One? What. The. Heck. Lol!!!

[drewzon87]

but did you eat any nut-butter?

[supertracylynn]

For the record, I do have acid reflux bad enough to need 2 different rx meds very single day, on top of the fact that my stomach doesn't empty properly (it takes me 1.5-2x longer for food to leave my tummy than "normal" people)

Also for the record, I ate peanut butter yesterday... Along with other "nut butter" lol!

[PR1MO]

For the record, I do have acid reflux bad enough to need 2 different rx meds very single day, on top of the fact that my stomach doesn't empty properly (it takes me 1.5-2x longer for food to leave my tummy than "normal" people)

Also for the record, I ate peanut butter yesterday... Along with other "nut butter" lol!

Well good to see you are upping your protein intake.