Can't decide which stack to get!!

[34lifter]

I am about 6'4" 235 pounds 19 years old (20 in october) and have been lifting for about 3 years. I am looking to seriously bulk up for next year and am torn between two different stacks to supplement my diet + training. I try to eat about 4k cals/day and get 1g protein/pound of bodyfat. Should I go with:

1. T-Booster stack
-Activate Xtreme
-Triazole

OR

2. Other Stack
-ArA (X-Factor)
-Ecdysterone (E-Bol)

I also take the basics:
-protein
-creatine
-multi
-fish oil

So, other than food, heavy lifting, and the basic supplements, which OTHER supplements should I get?
Or am I just wasting my money and I should just stick with the basics and food. You tell me!

[JCTWP46]

I have ran a t-booster with an AI before and I had good results. It was a successful run. But I have also ran X-Factor Advanced and I will tell you the results were awesome. I know nothing about Ecdy.

So at your age I would say ArA>T-Booster. My .02.

[firasnas]

I am about 6'4" 235 pounds 19 years old (20 in october) and have been lifting for about 3 years. I am looking to seriously bulk up for next year and am torn between two different stacks to supplement my diet + training. I try to eat about 4k cals/day and get 1g protein/pound of bodyfat. Should I go with:

1. T-Booster stack
-Activate Xtreme
-Triazole

OR

2. Other Stack
-ArA (X-Factor)
-Ecdysterone (E-Bol)

I also take the basics:
-protein
-creatine
-multi
-fish oil

So, other than food, heavy lifting, and the basic supplements, which OTHER supplements should I get?
Or am I just wasting my money and I should just stick with the basics and food. You tell me!

Well for one, damn your a big kid! And two.. you dont need to add anything looks like your good to go, i would do stack 2 just because i have never done it and wnat to try it after my Daa+L-dopa run. You could add a pre and post workout if you got the cash, Iam doing Ultima + Dark matter.. so far loving it. Have done Assault + Recon in the past also pretty good.

[XII02]

I am about 6'4" 235 pounds 19 years old (20 in october) and have been lifting for about 3 years. I am looking to seriously bulk up for next year and am torn between two different stacks to supplement my diet + training. I try to eat about 4k cals/day and get 1g protein/pound of bodyfat. Should I go with:

1. T-Booster stack
-Activate Xtreme
-Triazole

OR

2. Other Stack
-ArA (X-Factor)
-Ecdysterone (E-Bol)

I also take the basics:
-protein
-creatine
-multi
-fish oil

So, other than food, heavy lifting, and the basic supplements, which OTHER supplements should I get?
Or am I just wasting my money and I should just stick with the basics and food. You tell me!

You're 19, you don't need testosterone boosters. You can get Triazole/Black Hole if you're bulking as it will help you with your appetite.

ArA is a great non-pH choice for everyone. Stack this with Vengeance and it's pure win.

I'm not a big fan of multivitamins since I get them from my nutrition. You could replace that with another tub of protein probably. But again, if you reach your macros without the need of supplements, might as well save your money.

Supplement - to aid. You should never depend on them. Must make whole food your #1 choice in nutrition.

[XII02]

Well for one, damn your a big kid! And two.. you dont need to add anything looks like your good to go, i would do stack 2 just because i have never done it and wnat to try it after my Daa+L-dopa run. You could add a pre and post workout if you got the cash, Iam doing Ultima + Dark matter.. so far loving it. Have done Assault + Recon in the past also pretty good.

He's 19. His energy/strength could be increasing on its own. A preworkout drink wouldn't be as beneficial as a protein powder/beta-alanine.

Buy SNS Beta-Alanine instead. It will delay fatigued, increase your endurance, and it will help you with your strength as well.

[Mr.Cooper69]

The second stack + SNS Beta-Alanine would be a stellar stack. I'd buy 2 bottles of X-Factor and ditch the E-bol though.

[34lifter]

Alright I was doing some research on the ArA and read that it increases DOMS. This made me wonder if it would affect my training in some way because I currently run a high frequency, low volume type workout:
Day 1: Chest/Back (A)
Day 2: Legs (Squats)
Day 3: SHoulders/Arms(A)
Day 4: Off
Day 5: Chest/Back (B)
Day 6: Legs(DL)
Day7: Shoulders/Arms (A)

About 12 high intensity sets/week (6 per training session A or B) per bodypart. The frequency is high, but with a somewhat busy schedule I do not make it to the gym 3 days on 1 off religiously so it works out as far as recovery goes.
Anyways, would the increased DOMS be a major factor in the way I train (2x/week)

Also, you say "at my age ArA would work better," however, I noticed you're 20 and have ran a tbooster before. Do you really think the years difference between the two of us made a difference. Or were you generally speaking from experience? Just wondering. Repped if not on RC. Thanks.

[powercage]

The second stack + SNS Beta-Alanine would be a stellar stack. I'd buy 2 bottles of X-Factor and ditch the E-bol though.

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Also add in Glycergrow and Carnitine to your X-factor

[JCTWP46]

The second stack + SNS Beta-Alanine would be a stellar stack. I'd buy 2 bottles of X-Factor and ditch the E-bol though.

This. I've heard very mixed reviews on Ecdy and you need two bottles to get the most out of X-Factor. Also, a pre-workout isn't necessary when you're running ArA, IMO.

[firasnas]

He's 19. His energy/strength could be increasing on its own. A preworkout drink wouldn't be as beneficial as a protein powder/beta-alanine.

Buy SNS Beta-Alanine instead. It will delay fatigued, increase your endurance, and it will help you with your strength as well.

Hes 19 and ? Alot of teens take Ultima with great results. And hes already taking protien powder.

[34lifter]

Well for one, damn your a big kid! And two.. you dont need to add anything looks like your good to go, i would do stack 2 just because i have never done it and wnat to try it after my Daa+L-dopa run. You could add a pre and post workout if you got the cash, Iam doing Ultima + Dark matter.. so far loving it. Have done Assault + Recon in the past also pretty good.

I so use a pre-w/o (1MR) and I love it besides the crash afterwards. I am thinking of switching back to Shotgun because they removed the 1,3 from the 1MR.

He's 19. His energy/strength could be increasing on its own. A preworkout drink wouldn't be as beneficial as a protein powder/beta-alanine.

Buy SNS Beta-Alanine instead. It will delay fatigued, increase your endurance, and it will help you with your strength as well.

The second stack + SNS Beta-Alanine would be a stellar stack. I'd buy 2 bottles of X-Factor and ditch the E-bol though.

X-Factor + SNS Beta-Alanine + Vengeance = winning? Haha Im gonna do my research and see what I read.

[JCTWP46]

Alright I was doing some research on the ArA and read that it increases DOMS. This made me wonder if it would affect my training in some way because I currently run a high frequency, low volume type workout:
Day 1: Chest/Back (A)
Day 2: Legs (Squats)
Day 3: SHoulders/Arms(A)
Day 4: Off
Day 5: Chest/Back (B)
Day 6: Legs(DL)
Day7: Shoulders/Arms (A)

About 12 high intensity sets/week (6 per training session A or B) per bodypart. The frequency is high, but with a somewhat busy schedule I do not make it to the gym 3 days on 1 off religiously so it works out as far as recovery goes.
Anyways, would the increased DOMS be a major factor in the way I train (2x/week)

Also, you say "at my age ArA would work better," however, I noticed you're 20 and have ran a tbooster before. Do you really think the years difference between the two of us made a difference. Or were you generally speaking from experience? Just wondering. Repped if not on RC. Thanks.

I'm not saying 1 yr makes any difference at all. AX and Triazole are regarded products that I will most likely try in the future. But what I'm saying is that the results from XF/XFA were much more significant, and I almost guarantee that it will give you more signigicant gains than a t-booster/AI.

Also, training two times a week could possibly give you problems. Pending on how the increased DOMS affects you. For me it wasn't a problem (I ran XFA).

[XII02]

Hes 19 and ? Alot of teens take Ultima with great results. And hes already taking protien powder.

Another protein powder wouldn't hurt. I've had great experiences with preworkouts. Most of them are placebos. The only thing that hit me bad was Beta-Alanine. Not the bulk ones. Try SNS, and you'd get quality workouts.

EDIT: If you're going to run ArA, avoid Omega-3(anti-inflammatory products) as well as joint support supplements.

[SwolenONE]

X-Factor and E-Bol imo is the most potent legal stack on the market, throw in a test booster like Test Factor or T-Bol and your golden.

[Nailbomb9]

TZ/AX/ArA...

[Mr.Cooper69]

Poor OP. These suggestions are outlandish. Keep it simple.

-protein
-creatine
-multi (Anavite if you can)
-fish oil
-2 bottles Original X-Factor
-Beta-Alanine
(Bulk GMS or Glycergrow if you can)

[SwolenONE]

TZ/AX/ArA...

The Activate+X-Factor stack has seen so many positive reviews it is insane, they stack quite nicely.

[XII02]

I so use a pre-w/o (1MR) and I love it besides the crash afterwards. I am thinking of switching back to Shotgun because they removed the 1,3 from the 1MR.





X-Factor + SNS Beta-Alanine + Vengeance + Glycergrow + Battle Fuel(optional) = winning? Haha Im gonna do my research and see what I read.

Win.

[240ka]

how about some infinite labs carnocre and juggernaut. i used both only twice then decided to go with 1MR and Sizeon Max.

ill let them both for $40 shipped

[34lifter]

Alright guys, thanks for the replies.
I decided I am going to go with X-Factor Advanced and SNS Beta Alanine!
Now I just need to find somewhere to get them for a cheap price haha

[XII02]

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