Animal Rage or USPLabs Jack3d?

[EnriqueDeLeon]

I'm looking for a good pre-workout supplement.
I am currently on MusclePharm Assault but it just ain't do it for me.
I need something that stays consistent.
So, would Animal Rage be better than Jack3d?
Also, what's better...pills or powder?
I've never taken a pre in pill form so I wouldn't know how effective that is.

[mckeo]

I haven't taken AR, but Jack3d is insane. Best pumps of my life lol.

Recently though, I got really bad headaches two days in a row taking it. First time it's happened and hasn't happened since... I think it was something to do with how much I took, and how soon after I started lifting.

Either way, it works wonders for me.

[EnriqueDeLeon]

I haven't taken AR, but Jack3d is insane. Best pumps of my life lol.

Recently though, I got really bad headaches two days in a row taking it. First time it's happened and hasn't happened since... I think it was something to do with how much I took, and how soon after I started lifting.

Either way, it works wonders for me.

Sweet!
How long did the energy last?

[Universal Rep]

Animal Rage has been out for about two weeks but the reviews are comin' in. Many users who have used both have reviews here... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2239423&page=3

In a nutshell, users are sayin' Animal Rage is as good as supps with 1,3 dimeth but without any of the sides. FAQ on this... http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...-dimethylamine

Don't need multiple scoops for a serving. Many are runnin' Animal Rage on a single scoop or even 1/2 a scoop.

For a free sample, www.universalnutrition.com/rage

Energy is formulated for both short term and then sustained. Focus is what most are ravin' about tho... And at the end, a seamless transition out. No crash.

[EnriqueDeLeon]

Animal Rage has been out for about two weeks but the reviews are comin' in. Many users who have used both have reviews here... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2239423&page=3

In a nutshell, users are sayin' Animal Rage is as good as supps with 1,3 dimeth but without any of the sides. Don't need multiple scoops for a serving. Many are runnin' Animal Rage on a single scoop or even 1/2 a scoop.

For a free sample, www.universalnutrition.com/rage

Energy is formulated for both short term and then sustained. Focus is what most are ravin' about tho... And at the end, a seamless transition out. No crash.

AWESOME!!
but, what would be better?
Pills or Powder?
I've never taken pills as a pre so I wouldn't know if the effects would be as strong.
What's your take?

[BenW22]

Well, I've never had Rage (yet), but I have had a tub of Jack3d....so I would say Rage. The crash with Jack3d was just too strong for me

[Universal Rep]

Well, I've never had Rage (yet), but I have had a tub of Jack3d....so I would say Rage. The crash with Jack3d was just too strong for me

During all the internal testin' and prototyping and formulatin', and the two full Alpha Tests, the goal for Corporate was to specifically make a supp as strong and as effective as any out there but without the sides... If ya try Rage yourself, you'll see what I mean. Check the reviews and see for yourself based on those who have bought Rage thus far...

[Universal Rep]

AWESOME!!
but, what would be better?
Pills or Powder?
I've never taken pills as a pre so I wouldn't know if the effects would be as strong.
What's your take?

A better comparison would be the powder. If ya do get the Rage powder, start with 1/2 scoop. Serious... A full scoop is about 7 grams, which looks really, really tiny but trust me, it packs a mean punch. Again, go to the reviews and read about the fellas who are just usin' 1/2 scoop... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post646893783

[drudixon]

I'm looking for a good pre-workout supplement.
I am currently on MusclePharm Assault but it just ain't do it for me.
I need something that stays consistent.
So, would Animal Rage be better than Jack3d?
Also, what's better...pills or powder?
I've never taken a pre in pill form so I wouldn't know how effective that is.

Can't speak to rage, but from what I've tried so far...

Jack3d > Gasparri SuperPumps 250 > Cellucor M5

[Universal Rep]

Can't speak to rage, but from what I've tried so far...

Jack3d > Gasparri SuperPumps 250 > Cellucor M5

Try it for free... www.universalnutrition.com/rage and compare for yourself brother... You'll be surprised I think.

[Dback21]

DEFINITLEY rage man, i wouldnt even compare it to jack3d, white flood however is another top contender IMO

[frank3d]

DEFINITLEY rage man, i wouldnt even compare it to jack3d, white flood however is another top contender IMO

this^^^
and definitely white flood, i think its better than both rage & jack

[EnriqueDeLeon]

this^^^
and definitely white flood, i think its better than both rage & jack

Why makes White Flood a contender?

[De__eB]

Universal folks, which of the 17 ingredients in the Rage prop blend do you actually think is included in a dose shown to be effective?

I'll give you a Hint: Not very many of them.

[Universal Rep]

Universal folks, which of the 17 ingredients in the Rage prop blend do you actually think is included in a dose shown to be effective?

I'll give you a Hint: Not very many of them.

"Shown"? Meh, I'd rather have "done".

But don't take my word for it... Read the reviews.... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2239423&page=6

If ya still don't believe, get a free sample. After that, what can ya do? At least ya can make an informed opinion then... When the product launched two weeks ago, some were comin' out with the "it's underdosed this and that..." As you'll see from the reviews, well, see the reviews.

Accordin' to Corporate, Rage is sellin' fast at BB.com. That means it's gonna get out there and more reviews will come in, even more than now. If it ain't effective, the product won't sell well. In the end, consumers like ya have all the power, eh?

[EnriqueDeLeon]

"Shown"? Meh, I'd rather have "done".

But don't take my word for it... Read the reviews.... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2239423&page=6

If ya still don't believe, get a free sample. After that, what can ya do? At least ya can make an informed opinion then... When the product launched two weeks ago, some were comin' out with the "it's underdosed this and that..." As you'll see from the reviews, well, see the reviews.

Accordin' to Corporate, Rage is sellin' fast at BB.com. That means it's gonna get out there and more reviews will come in, even more than now. If it ain't effective, the product won't sell well. In the end, consumers like ya have all the power, eh?

I'm sold on this already...I'm gonna order Rage on the 25th (when I get paid)...I just hope it lives up to the hype!

[pKiefer]

Ive been using Jack3d for about 2 weeks now and I love it. It makes me real tired after my training tho but it might just be me. I prefer it over NO Xplode, Superpump 250, and Nano Vapor. As far as Rage, ive never used it but i have used some of there other products and have had nothing but good things to say about them.

[De__eB]

"Shown"? Meh, I'd rather have "done".

But don't take my word for it... Read the reviews.... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...2239423&page=6

If ya still don't believe, get a free sample. After that, what can ya do? At least ya can make an informed opinion then... When the product launched two weeks ago, some were comin' out with the "it's underdosed this and that..." As you'll see from the reviews, well, see the reviews.

Accordin' to Corporate, Rage is sellin' fast at BB.com. That means it's gonna get out there and more reviews will come in, even more than now. If it ain't effective, the product won't sell well. In the end, consumers like ya have all the power, eh?

*sigh*

Lots of **** sells heavily. On bb.com, a tribulus product is outselling every product of yours except for Pak.

The *fact* is that it is impossible to have effective doses of about half the ingredients in the product, in a 5.275g prop blend.

I'd wager the ones that *are* effectively dosed are the stims.

[CarpeDiem89]

i would chose so many other pres over jack3d lol. But Rage does look like it's been getting a lot of good reviews but without trying it, I can't recommend it or not I did however, order a tub for myself to try along with a can of animal cuts. Planning on shedding some mean fat!

[Universal Rep]

*sigh*

Lots of **** sells heavily. On bb.com, a tribulus product is outselling every product of yours except for Pak.

The *fact* is that it is impossible to have effective doses of about half the ingredients in the product, in a 5.275g prop blend.

I'd wager the ones that *are* effectively dosed are the stims.

I will agree that the forum and the store are two diff animals. More often than not, there ain't a connection between what the buyers buy in the store and what the members believe in the forum. Don't mean one side is right and the other is wrong. The truth is prolly somewhere in the middle IMHO. That said, it's pretty uncommon for a supp to generate sales on the store side AND get tremendous feedback on the forum side. Again, read the reviews of the BB.com forum members and track the sales of Rage in the comin' months.

Tell the thousands of people who have already purchased Animal Rage from BB.com that it's "impossible" for Rage to elicit energy, performance and, most importantly focus. This was what Rage was designed to do and nothin' else. Take a look at the reviews of those folks who are sayin' Rage is more than just stim... Focus may be the biggest asset, and all this without typical sides like crashes.

Ya can stay on the one side and never try the product and criticize it all ya want based on readin' the label, or ya can try it and make an informed opinion for yourself. I can't make ya do either, tho I'm pretty sure I know which it'll be. Good luck to ya tho.

[Universal Rep]

i would chose so many other pres over jack3d lol. But Rage does look like it's been getting a lot of good reviews but without trying it, I can't recommend it or not I did however, order a tub for myself to try along with a can of animal cuts. Planning on shedding some mean fat!

Exactly. Try it. Then choose to recommend it or not. That's all we reps can ask for... Good luck on ur cut brother.

[De__eB]

I will agree that the forum and the store are two diff animals. More often than not, there ain't a connection between what the buyers buy in the store and what the members believe in the forum. Don't mean one side is right and the other is wrong. The truth is prolly somewhere in the middle IMHO. That said, it's pretty uncommon for a supp to generate sales on the store side AND get tremendous feedback on the forum side. Again, read the reviews of the BB.com forum members and track the sales of Rage in the comin' months.

Tell the thousands of people who have already purchased Animal Rage from BB.com that it's "impossible" for Rage to elicit energy, performance and, most importantly focus. This was what Rage was designed to do and nothin' else. Take a look at the reviews of those folks who are sayin' Rage is more than just stim... Focus may be the biggest asset, and all this without typical sides like crashes.

Ya can stay on the one side and never try the product and criticize it all ya want based on readin' the label, or ya can try it and make an informed opinion for yourself. I can't make ya do either, tho I'm pretty sure I know which it'll be. Good luck to ya tho.

I am making an informed decision based on the facts on the label and not the hype from five animal reps in each thread, or opinionated reviews of a hundred reviewers who say the same 'omg insane energy and pumps yo' about every single preworkout they've posted about.

[Universal Rep]

I am making an informed decision based on the facts on the label and not the hype from five animal reps in each thread, or opinionated reviews of a hundred reviewers who say the same 'omg insane energy and pumps yo' about every single preworkout they've posted about.

That's what reviews are, D. Opinions of those who have actually used the supp, those who were open-minded enough to try Animal Rage. I don't think ur implyin' that the reviews are fabricated. At least I dont' think so... As I said, I don't think ur gonna change ur mind and aren't willing to even try it so what's the point. You win.

[naturalguy]

Universal folks, which of the 17 ingredients in the Rage prop blend do you actually think is included in a dose shown to be effective?

I'll give you a Hint: Not very many of them.

I am making an informed decision based on the facts on the label and not the hype from five animal reps in each thread, or opinionated reviews of a hundred reviewers who say the same 'omg insane energy and pumps yo' about every single preworkout they've posted about.

I've seen products promoted here where people were creaming their jeans over the formula and calling it the next greatest thing but when people starting using the product the feedback was meh.

We put Animal Rage through extensive testing, in the real world, with real athletes, bodybuilders and powerlifters. Honestly we could have come out with Animal Rage 6 months ago but we wanted to make sure that it worked.

Our goal was not to come out with a product that would wow people with it's label. The goal was to create a very effective energy, focus and performance product and we knocked it out of the park.

[ZAZ]

you may want to consider iforce maximize v2 as well.. has been getting great reviews for almost a year, and falls inbetween jack3d and rage in price. about $26.

ive taken jacked and was impressed.. but you build up a tolerance within a month.. so after 30-45 days you have to take 2 scoops to get the same result that one used to give you..

[soopamyko]

Rage > jack3d

[wallyworldfatty]

I am making an informed decision based on the facts on the label and not the hype from five animal reps in each thread, or opinionated reviews of a hundred reviewers who say the same 'omg insane energy and pumps yo' about every single preworkout they've posted about.

so a review is not something to consider before making a purchase? Have ever asked anybody about a product of any kind before making a purchase? I understand what you are trying to say, but to not count reviews from other members just dosent make sense IMO.

[PuZo]

Try it for free... www.universalnutrition.com/rage and compare for yourself brother... You'll be surprised I think.

Canada...

[Universal Rep]

Canada...

Sub to this thread here, P... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=132752533

Info will be announced there.


Also, check out this new Rage promo and who is eligible. Corporate is spreadin' the love...

[HALOBRYAN]

I am making an informed decision based on the facts on the label and not the hype from five animal reps in each thread, or opinionated reviews of a hundred reviewers who say the same 'omg insane energy and pumps yo' about every single preworkout they've posted about.

how should each of the following be dose?( not calling you out. u seen to know what your talking about just would like you to be more detail)

Animal Rage Proprietary Formula 5275mg

Beta Alanine *
Citrulline Malate *
L-Taurine *
Glucuronolactone *
L-Tyrosine *
Choline Bitartrate *
N-Acetyl Tyrosine *
β-Phenylethylamine *
Rhodiola Rosea Extract *
Schizandra Berry *
Cordyceps Sinensis *
Panax Ginseng *
Quick Energy Complex * *
Evodiamine *
Vinpocetine


leaving out the following since they are the source of the 300mg of caffaine. right?
Caffeine Anhydrous *
Coffee Bean Extract (50% Polyphenols) *
Green Tea Extract (98% Polyphenols/45% EGCG