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    Adding curls into SS?

    I've been on SS for about two months so far, is it ok to add curls in? I know it is recommended not to extensively change the program early into it, but would just adding curls negatively affect my training or recovery enough that I shouldn't do them? If not, how many sets/reps should I do and every workout or every second workout?


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    The client makes the program successful, not the other way around.

    I'm sure others will disagree though.
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    So will adding curls negatively affect the program enough that I shouldn't do them? And how many sets/reps should I do, and how often?
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    Only you would know.

    What's up with your squat (in comparison to everything else)?
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    you're obviously doing something completely wrong in SS if your deadlift is 65 pounds below your squat, fixing your deadlift/squatting lower will be 14553221432 times more beneficial than adding curls
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    I would say that you could add them and take em out if your progress suffers, but it seems like your progress is not doing very well in the first place.

    How much are you eating and are you getting enough rest?

    If you ARE going to add curls, try adding them on friday only, something like 3x8... Doing it fridays only will give you will let ya recover more.
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    adding a few sets of curls a week wont hurt any. with a 165lb dead it wont help any either. do what you're heart tells you.
    To guys starting out - please understand: when you can deadlift 450lb for 10 reps your back, hamstrings & traps will reflect THAT not which program you used to get there. When you can curl 150 for 10, your biceps will reflect THAT, not which program, rep range or method you used to get there. There is no voodoo independent of poundage progression, just faster and slower ways of getting to your next pit stop.
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    Originally Posted by rock201 View Post
    Only you would know.

    What's up with your squat (in comparison to everything else)?
    It's not so much that my squat is good compared to everything else, it's that my upper body is REALLY bad. And the reason i dead less than I squat is because when I started I was lazy and didn't deadlift because I didn't have the proper form. My dead will beat my squat eventually.
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    If you had (and read) the book, he talks about when to/how to add in curls.

    But as previously stated, I'd wait until your dead is up to par with everything else.

    And the general rule is that it's okay to do them, but if they start hindering your progress on the main lifts, either ditch 'em or don't do as much weight.
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    One thing to consider is that the Deadlift is done 1-2 times weekly for 1x5 on Rip's SS, whereas Squats are done 3 times weekly for 3x5. So I imagine that makes progression for Squats faster than Deadlifts. That said, sooner or later Deads should catch up for him.
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    As mentioned above your dead is heaps low compared to squatting but dunno why other people haven't mentioned your rows either cause its a fair bit below your bench and you should be able to pull more than you bench (which could be part of the reason your dead is so weak aswell).

    Its more important to have a stronger back then chest as it can stuff your posture having a stronger chest as it pulls your shoulders forward into an unnatural position whereas a strong back will pull your shoulders back into a natural position and will be alot more benificial.

    So with those in mind don't add anything until you've worked on them for abit and then once they have caught up your ment to add pull ups to workout A and dips to workout B. Then after a few months of doing those you add curls and tricep pushdowns to the friday only workout and do them after you finish everything else.
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    Originally Posted by ridley89 View Post
    As mentioned above your dead is heaps low compared to squatting but dunno why other people haven't mentioned your rows either cause its a fair bit below your bench and you should be able to pull more than you bench (which could be part of the reason your dead is so weak aswell).
    In fairness a pendlay row is going to be a lot lighter than your standard rows and your yates rows for most people. I can't do as much as I bench either.
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    Originally Posted by Miketoc View Post
    In fairness a pendlay row is going to be a lot lighter than your standard rows and your yates rows for most people. I can't do as much as I bench either.

    Same here, the barbell row done unsupported is going to be less than a bench, as the limiting factor is actually the lower back.
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    Curls are never a part of the program. If you need ot add something to hit the bicep more directly you wouldbnefit the most form chins. When your lifts are still at joke level though adding anything would be foolish.
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    +1 on the chins if you absolutely must add something. 3x8 once a week. You'l see more gains from them anyway and you'll get stronger as a bonus, which will help you further down the line.
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    do chins, from your stats you will not be able to do them with proper form to start, do negatives and work your way up to being able to do 3x8.
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