i remember several olympia's ago any Ronnie C had a horribly distended stomach, that following Olympia it looked as if he completely got rid of it.
How do folks under 10% bf get potbellies and more importantly how they get rid of them
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07-31-2009, 12:49 PM #1
Question about distended stomachs (potbellies)
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07-31-2009, 01:01 PM #2
a lot of people blame it on the growth hormones thats why they call it gh gut but ive heard a lot of bodybuilders say its more so because of the insulin.
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07-31-2009, 01:03 PM #3
Ronnie wore his belt in and out of gym to squeeze him in, not sure if that was entirely the reason though
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07-31-2009, 01:06 PM #4
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07-31-2009, 01:19 PM #5
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07-31-2009, 01:29 PM #6
lolz at people saying its from the food when these guys are showing up to shows completely dehydrated and very little to eat the day of...
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07-31-2009, 01:39 PM #7
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07-31-2009, 01:45 PM #8
At one point I thought, "Maybe its cuz they have hypertrophied their abs so much."
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07-31-2009, 02:15 PM #10
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07-31-2009, 03:17 PM #11
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07-31-2009, 03:18 PM #12
do you guys think their bellies would go back to normal if they stopped taking gh or do you think the effects are permanent?
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07-31-2009, 03:41 PM #13
It looks like with the cessation of large amounts of GH that the guts will go back to normal size. It is not their guts that are bigger, but their intestines which have grown in size, that is what causes the distention. Luckily it does not seem permanent and better appears pretty easy to reverse. Thank God I was tired of seeing men look pregnant.
LOL to anyone dumb enough to think it was because of food. Bodybuilders have always eaten enormous amounts of food, the only thing that has changed is the drugs they take along with the food. Guys in the 70's, 80's and early 90's ate as much as the guys in late 90's-2000's. Only difference was the introduction of insulin (thanks Dorian Yates) which started the bloated bellies, and then insulin + Gh which caused the guts to just get out of control.Certitude is the enemy of wisdom.
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07-31-2009, 03:41 PM #14
like i said earlier its not just the gh but when its taking aswell as insulin. i know loads of people that take gh but dont get the gut but to answer your question i dont know if its permanent but i would presume if you were to stop eating as much as you do while bodybuilding it probably wouldnt be noticable
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07-31-2009, 03:49 PM #15
Its a combo of things bro, food is included, plus gh plus insulin. A guy like ronnie 280+ ripped on stage need a hell of alot more cals then a 230 pound arnold from the 70's, even most top bbers in the 90's were 245- 250, not 280+, you dont think every pro is taken gh and slin? of course they are, some have stream waistlines... but those guys with the streamline waists arent 280+ pounds unless they are taller like wolf
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07-31-2009, 03:53 PM #16
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07-31-2009, 05:23 PM #17
It doesn't matter, the guts would not grow like that unless they were taking GH + Slin. Your internal organs are not going to grow like that just because you consume large amounts of food. Off course food plays some role, but if you take away the insulin and GH and the distended guts will go away as well even if the calorie intake remains the same. Why do people have such a hard time accepting this? The intestines have a lot of GH receptors and are quite susecptible to the effects of GH. You can take GH and slin and not have a huge gut as long as you are not taking ridiculous amounts and are not eating excessive calories trying to get huge. Food only has the effect because of the GH and Slin.
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07-31-2009, 05:33 PM #18
Its not the food, pros get alot of protein from shakes which takes up almost very little space b/c it passes quickly back in Arnies day they didnt even have protein shakes they had to eat whole food all the time for every meal. Its not the damn food.
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07-31-2009, 05:42 PM #19
Im saying food plays a roll in it and you agree with that, im not saying its the sole cause... lets just say ronnie when he was sitting at around 250 pounds with a slim waist (i guarentee you he was on gh and slin then) he decides im not winning the olympia at 250, 250 isnt big enough. The gh and slin wont get him to 280 alone... he needed many more cals to get to and maintain 30+ more pounds of muscle on his frame... why do people have a hard time accepting this?
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07-31-2009, 05:44 PM #20
there is some tribe in africa... the women put rings around their neck and keep adding rings...
chick with the longest neck wins...
same principal with the use of the belt... just squashes everything upwards over time!I wish it lasted, forever.
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07-31-2009, 05:56 PM #21
explain Silvio then? You dont automatically grow a GH gut it does take time. Levrone went cold turkey every year like Arnold use to do and he never had a GH gut Coleman stayed on all year long. Also who say Ronnie was using slin before he won the Olympia? Maybe thats what helped him get the extra size and in the long run caused a gut.
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07-31-2009, 06:18 PM #22
The original topic was Ronnie so that was i used him as an example, every pro is different, there bodies react differently to different compounds/food intake/peptides/training methods.. there are many amatures and pros that have been using gh and slin for years without the large gut.. when will guys realize that gear isnt the thing that propels guys to the top in any sport....its called genetics and work....if you dont have either you are doomed to mediocrity......btw im done debating on this topic
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07-31-2009, 06:26 PM #23
It is not only GH and Slin, it is the staggering amount of Slin and GH that some of these pros were using year round. It is a combo of GH + Slin + enormous amounts of calories. Close thread. However, without the GH and Slin you would never see these types of guts, regardless of how many calories a person eats. The GH is what causes the organs to grow. Close Thread.
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07-31-2009, 06:29 PM #24
guys it cant be food. Some people are 500+ pounds because they cant control their eating. Some of them manage to slim down and do it without having a gut and some of those people would eat 10-12 meals a day with large portions.
I dont think its from GH either because the intestines are compressed and coiled up anways and would be completely capable of packing in the same way you could pack 100 balloons in a small bag. Even if they were bigger ballons they could still fit in a smaller bag because they are elastic and compress easily.
I think the abdominal wall pushes outward for protection of the organs. When you want to build a lot of mass you need to focus on power movements. For example, if you want to gain a lot of mass on your lats then when you do lat pulldowns you bump the weight up but also have to swing you body down because it becomes too heavy to do slow controlled reps. you actually tighten up your waist unintentionally when you do this so i think over time the abdominal wall pushes out.
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07-31-2009, 07:11 PM #25
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08-01-2009, 03:42 AM #26
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08-01-2009, 04:01 AM #27
If it was the food they would all have it.
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08-01-2009, 04:04 AM #28
Amaizingly no one mentions dead lifts and heavy squats. I know many powerlifters and sevaral "strongest man" competitors that never touched GH or slin, yet they have distended belies. It hapens from the enourmous presure on the chest and abdominal cavity. Think about how many guys get hernia from heavy lifting.
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08-01-2009, 04:08 AM #29
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08-01-2009, 04:51 AM #30
I find it strange how the bodybuilders of old in the 70s and 80s NEVER had guts...Mike Mentzer had a bit of belly and that was very much not the norm.
So what has changed in that period for guts to start appearing...? Back then they were still lifting heavy poundages and eating a **** load of food. Strong broscience here, but I don't see how it can't be drug related. Happy to hear any intelligent thoughts though.No crew crew.
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