Do you have to compete to be a powerlifter, yes or no?

[Minotaur]

Do you have to compete to be a powerlifter, yes or no?

[Kiknskreem]

If not, I guess I am a chef because I have been cooking up a storm.

[Minotaur]

If not, I guess I am a chef because I have been cooking up a storm.

Stick to the questions. You're not clever.

[DJSTARER]

did this thread really just get started.

I've kept quiet on this subject. There are a few very vocal members here who I'll continue to let debate it.

Personally, while I have an opinion, I don't believe I've been lifting in the sport or am old enough to make a sensible, mature conclusion.

[Lager1]

Powerlifting IS competition. People lifting weights at the gym are just training.

[Kiknskreem]

Stick to the questions. You're not clever.

Um, its a way of answering your question.

I think you took my post in the other thread too personally man, it was NOT a dig at you, and I have mucho respect for you.

[Chokenpuke]

Finally a subject that hasn't been beaten to death. Please do not comment on the cleverness of my comment.

[Minotaur]

I see a pattern so far of the 20-22s who have the answers.

[Lager1]

Stick to the questions. You're not clever.

whoa there buddy chill out

[Minotaur]

Um, its a way of answering your question.

It's not.

[Lager1]

I see a pattern so far of the 20-22s who have the answers.

did this thread really just get started.

I've kept quiet on this subject. There are a few very vocal members here who I'll continue to let debate it.

Personally, while I have an opinion, I don't believe I've been lifting in the sport or am old enough to make a sensible, mature conclusion.

People are entitled to their opinions, there's no reason we can't have a mature discussion and disagree on things. It's quite sad if people are unable to disagree without getting into fights.

[Chokenpuke]

Personally, while I have an opinion, I don't believe I've been lifting in the sport or am old enough to make a sensible, mature conclusion.

This statement would serve as indication that you are probably more sensible and mature than most.

[Minotaur]

Finally a subject that hasn't been beaten to death.

It's a summary for anyone who doesn't want to weed through the waist high bull**** of the other thread. It's a simple question.

[Kiknskreem]

It's not.

Yes, because just lifting weights in the big three is equivelant to me just cooking in my kitchen.

One doesn't make a person a powerlifter anymore than whipping up some scrambled eggs makes a person a chef.

[Chokenpuke]

I see a pattern so far of the 20-22s who have the answers.

I see a 51 year old trolling.

[Minotaur]

whoa there buddy chill out

I'm as cool as ice. He made a similar non-sensical reply to something on the Over 35 forum.

[Minotaur]

People are entitled to their opinions, there's no reason we can't have a mature discussion and disagree on things. It's quite sad if people are unable to disagree without getting into fights.

Just answer the poll question. There should be no debate about it. That was already done with a plentitude of invective and name-calling. Again, I just want to see a summary and a show of hands. Not the Gettysburg Address.

[Kiknskreem]

Just answer the poll question. There should be no debate about it. That was already done with a plentitude of invective and name-calling. Again, I just want to see a summary and a show of hands. Not the Gettysburg Address.

A poll thread without discussion is not going to happen.

[Minotaur]

Yes, because just lifting weights in the big three is equivelant to me just cooking in my kitchen.

One doesn't make a person a powerlifter anymore than whipping up some scrambled eggs makes a person a chef.

Analogy fails.

[Chokenpuke]

Analogy fails.

Stop debating.

[Kiknskreem]

Analogy fails.

How so?

[Minotaur]

I see a 51 year old trolling.

Yes, you're on to me... 15,970 posts over 7 years... yep, a troll.

[WowWeakForum]

Powerlifting: a competition or sport involving three tests of strength: the bench press, squat, and two-handed dead lift.

Therefore, a powerlifter would be one of the competitors. So, how are you gonna call yourself a powerlifter if you don't compete?

That being said, who is better, the weight lifter guy who can deadlift 700 or the powerlifter who deadlifts 600? I say the guy who deadlifts 700.

[Lager1]

This statement would serve as indication that you are probably more sensible and mature than most.

So voicing an opinion on this matter means you're not sensible, and immature?

I just don't get why people take disagreement so personally, especially on the internet.

[Minotaur]

How so?

Because if I am training the same way you train, but simply don't compete for whatever reason, that is no analogy to someone making scrambled eggs compared to someone entering entering their chocolate cheese souffle in a contest, or not. Making scrambled eggs is analagous to haphazardly lifting weights with no goal in mind of improving, or being prepared for a competition, should one enter or not.

[Lager1]

I'm as cool as ice. He made a similar non-sensical reply to something on the Over 35 forum.

I think his analogies make sense.

Just answer the poll question. There should be no debate about it. That was already done with a plentitude of invective and name-calling. Again, I just want to see a summary and a show of hands. Not the Gettysburg Address.

You can't always get what you want.

[Minotaur]

Powerlifting: a competition or sport involving three tests of strength: the bench press, squat, and two-handed dead lift.

Therefore, a powerlifter would be one of the competitors. So, how are you gonna call yourself a powerlifter if you don't compete?

Is the word "powerlifter" defined somewhere as "competitor"?

[Jason2459]

Powerlifting is defined as a sport that consists of three lifts: the squat, the bench, and the deadlift. The definition of sport is to compete. Being a powerlifter is a person that competes in powerlifting.

Training like a powerlifter makes no sense and neither does it make sense to say that someone is a powerlifter that doesn't compete in the sport of powerlifting just because someone performs a squat, bench, and deadlift. Powerlifters train in many ways and in some instances doesn't look anything like a "typical" powerlifting routine. Many people from many other sports train like a powerlifter but they are not powerlifters. They are football players, track athletes, and so on. They would never call themselves a powerlifter unless they did decide to compete.

There are very strong people out there and maybe some that are stronger then the strongest powerlifter. If that person does not compete that doesn't take away from that person one bit but doesn't make that person a powerlifter.

If some decided to compete once then that person would be a powerlifter for that brief amount of time. If after their membership in the federation runs out and they never compete again they would no longer be a powerlifter. They were a powerlifter and competed in powerlifting but no longer are they a powerlifter.

Just like I was a wrestler and I competed at wrestling but no longer am I a wrestler. Even though I'll still get out there and wrestle around a bit. I played football and I was a football player but no longer am I a football player. Though I still go out and through the football around. I use to do marathons but no longer am I a marathon runner even though I still go running. I no longer compete at many sports that I used to be a part of so no longer am I a part of that sport.

[Lager1]

Because if I am training the same way you train, but simply don't compete for whatever reason, that is no analogy to someone making scrambled eggs compared to someone entering entering their chocolate cheese souffle in a contest, or not. Making scrambled eggs is analagous to haphazardly lifting weights with no goal in mind of improving, or being prepared for a competition, should one enter or not.

I'm sure you remember these from back in school:

making scrambled eggs is to being a chef in a restaurant as

lifting weights in the gym is to being a competitive powerlifter

[Kiknskreem]

Because if I am training the same way you train, but simply don't compete for whatever reason, that is no analogy to someone making scrambled eggs compared to someone entering entering their chocolate cheese souffle in a contest, or not.

It is a phallacy to think that non competitors are doing the exact same thing, and have the same thought process and concerns as those that compete.

The difference is one that you may likely not appreciate until you compete.

And I think the above analogy is the one that fails.... and I can prove it very simply. Instead of a chocolate cheese souffle contest, it is now a scrambled egg contest.

I'm sure you remember these from back in school:

making scrambled eggs is to being a chef in a restaurant as

lifting weights in the gym is to being a competitive powerlifter

eggzacly.