Guys don't argue with this person using long paragraphs. The reality is he'll continue crying to sleep for many nights over the subject and we'll enjoy seeing physiques like phil, kai, rhoden, dexter, ramy, Jason huh, cedric, roelly, not wolf, etc for many years
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07-27-2013, 12:09 PM #181
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07-27-2013, 12:22 PM #182
Meh, I don't find the super shredded look and ultra muscular appearance of a BB to be all that great looking. I'm more interested in what the BB is projecting with his mind, rather than how many chemicals and synthol he can pump in his body.
I guess when I think of it, I'm more into the look of a fitness model. It just looks better. Anyway, I'll let you guys enjoy your mutant division, but I'm not into it. Proportions, symmetry, aesthetics, that's what I dig. Muscularity is only impressive in like strong man competitions, I have to see practical application to their huge muscles, not just for show. It's not impressive in an aesthetic way, just impressive that a man can be so big and lift so much weight, in that sense.
I want congruency, the strength should match the muscles. Some of these guys go backstage after the contest and pass out and need oxygen, that's obviously not a sign of good health or strength. Synthol is such a cheat to me, they just give the illusion of being strong as the hulk but in reality they wouldn't last a round in a strongman competition.
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07-27-2013, 12:35 PM #183
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07-27-2013, 01:15 PM #188
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07-27-2013, 03:17 PM #189
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07-27-2013, 05:03 PM #190
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07-27-2013, 05:32 PM #191
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07-27-2013, 06:14 PM #192
I've noticed that BB guys are a sensitive bunch to criticisms--that's interesting. Anyway, I'll refrain from opinionating any further, I'll let you guys do your thing. I'm honestly not trying to rustle and feathers, just trying to get a discussion going. Carry on...My apologies if I've offended anyone.
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07-27-2013, 06:29 PM #193
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07-28-2013, 03:57 AM #194
Something tells me if you were locked in the room with a shredded 260lb man you won't be thinking "wow he's such a little bitch, so insecure". Plenty of weightlifters of all sizes can be insecure, only difference with the smaller ones is they usually have crappier genetics. So first Zyzz should be winning the Olympia, now Arnold is still ok? Which is it.. Zyzz was maybe 200lbs in Arnolds condition and Arnold was 240 at the same height? That's a pretty big change in weight for both of them to have ok physiques. What about Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray? Shawn packs more muscle/inch of height than either of them by a longshot, but I'd argue he has better aestetics. Certainly better shape to the muscle and waistline than either Zyzz or Arnie. Don't you see how silly this is. The only reason the physiques in the 70's were smaller was because of the drugs available. It has nothing to do with "projections of the mind" or any other nonsense. Lasty, small guys tend to look bigger alone, but when you see them next to pro's it's laughable to say they should be "winning shows". They aren't that much more aesthetic or even proportioned, if they are at all. We've already posted plenty of pros with tiny waists. They are just ALOT smaller, to the point they barely look like they lift.. That would be Zyzz as a Mr. O. He wouldn't look like he lifts next to Phil heath. He woulnd't have better shape to his muscles or proportion. Zyzz has bigger arms and chest than average and a pretty normal size everywhere else. Even state level mens physique guys crush him.
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07-28-2013, 04:32 AM #195
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07-28-2013, 06:21 AM #196Kai Greene, Phil Heath, Cedric McMillan, Lionel Beyeke, Shawn Rhoden
"Looking up at goals once only found in my dreams can only make me think of those who looked down upon those dreams. The only time you should ever look down upon another person, is when you are extending a hand to lift them up." - kai greene
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07-29-2013, 03:21 AM #197
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07-29-2013, 06:14 AM #199
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07-29-2013, 06:34 AM #200
To be honest.. I sense a lot of people like you always prefer the men's physique divisions because you feel it is something "obtainable" for you and will still let you fit in more than being a BB would. It's beyond society's acceptance which you want, you want society's admiration and praise.
BB are beyond big and repulse women while men physique competitors are the epitome of what today's society strives to achieve and thus men and women both look up to them. Oh boy! Who cant look like a fitness model with proper dieting and working out regularly. Is this right? Not a chance.
Youre 5'11 and 204 cutting down with the goal physique of a 'fitness competitor', why? "I want to feel good about myself, I want to be healthy, I want to be in shape." No, you want the positive attention, stares, and hushed tones. You want what you feel a BB does not receive. That is why you are so damn wrong in every aspect.
A BB is admired because they have been willing to dedicate themselves fully to a sport, they are the pinnicale. Their bodies are not meant to show an everyday human, but what the human body can achieve at an extreme level. They sacrafice an unimaginable amount from their lives to reach the stage they are at and it should be respected.
Admire what you want, but at the minimum a guy who competes should be respected for his struggle and sacrafices.
Anyways, comparing the above to the below...
Proportions, symmetry, aesthetics~Misc from work crew~
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07-29-2013, 06:45 AM #201
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07-29-2013, 07:18 AM #204
it depends...this sounds so sexist (well maybe not becuase I will also say most of the guys are f*cked up in the head) but many of those women have a screw lose. Trust me you see them all hot in the mags and think they are so put together but you see them out wasted at an afterparty and many guys realize real quick this are people with crazy low self esteem, major self image problems, and they will go home with a lot of goes.
but the female bbers are the craziest. I do believe it is becuase of the testosterone.
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