Random IFBB Chat and Shenanigans 2.0

[Larfleeze]

That's pretty good! ^ Face looks more like Sergio than you though

[patbanya]

That's pretty good! ^ Face looks more like Sergio than you though

Haha! Best compliment yet.

[RoroCwalker]

Close enough.

[img]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7816631&d=1434480182[img]

https://instagram.com/mrbb3k

Good drawing, and thanks for sharing the guy's page. (hhhnnnnggg)

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Also,

From the ACBrazil's streaming group (the youtube channel who streamed the ACBrazil).



At least they actually pay attention to the critiques..

I'll make a thread a week or so before the Olympia, to address the camera angles thing.

[flangmasterj]

Other than the camera guys poor timing the stream was awesome. Setting the bar.

[B-Neva]

Other than the camera guys poor timing the stream was awesome. Setting the bar.

It should be easy as hell to stream all these shows now. You can do it for free via YouTube all you need is a decent internet connection. You just need a camera man and the show promoter to sign off.

[jahaa]

:P:P

[SammyJr]

:P:P

yes.. why are you allowed hormones to change gender but not to gain muscle.

[endurancell]

yes.. why are you allowed hormones to change gender but not to gain muscle.

Because modern feminism and the whole transgender scene is cancer.

What if i walked into my docs office tomorrow and told him that I identify myself as a larger, muscular man on every level except physical and I wanted testosterone to achieve this desired self. I'd be laughed out of town. Try the same thing as a male/female identifying with the opposite gender and needing hormones to get there, you'll be shared all over social media by the ******** moms in the light of a saint.

Its unfortunate that we live in such a bigoted, muscle shaming society. I invite you brahs, help raise awareness for transmuscular identity individuals

[Larfleeze]

yes.. why are you allowed hormones to change gender but not to gain muscle.

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm ****ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege.

[Gorky88]

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm ****ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege.

bahahahha

[Larfleeze]

That taper..



Also strong 450lb+ deadlift from a guy at death's door

[Unbiasedfan]

The sreaming in that vid reminded me of what kai said about the rage, when he used ronnie as an example.

[TropicalSunset]

:P:P

Wow never thought about it like this, but really good point.

I guess the reaction has to do with the fact that transgender people have been vilified and prosecuted for their lifestyle for a LONG time, while the use of hormones in bodybuilding is fairly new and thus there hasn't been that amount of blow-back. No one wants to kill you if you take steroids, but there are lots of weird people who would like to kill transgender or gay people.

[203mh]

:P:P

lol... shared that one a couple times. Gotta love society eh?

[Larfleeze]

Wow never thought about it like this, but really good point.

I guess the reaction has to do with the fact that transgender people have been vilified and prosecuted for their lifestyle for a LONG time, while the use of hormones in bodybuilding is fairly new and thus there hasn't been that amount of blow-back. No one wants to kill you if you take steroids, but there are lots of weird people who would like to kill transgender or gay people.

It's still fuked. People wouldn't suddenly start worshipping him if he came out and admitted he had schizophrenia or BPD or some other random mental illness, but he has the one that made him cut his dick off so he's some sort of idol

[Kiwi_]

You guys hear how Rachel Dolezal has jumped on the bandwagon and is now claiming to be 'transracial'. A black girl trapped in a white girl's body.

[Unbiasedfan]

It's still fuked. People wouldn't suddenly start worshipping him if he came out and admitted he had schizophrenia or BPD or some other random mental illness, but he has the one that made him cut his dick off so he's some sort of idol

Is it a mental illness?

Im assuming its a guy that turned "girl", don't know who he is.

[TropicalSunset]

It's still fuked. People wouldn't suddenly start worshipping him if he came out and admitted he had schizophrenia or BPD or some other random mental illness, but he has the one that made him cut his dick off so he's some sort of idol

Well I would not call it a mental illness. But you are right...he is getting a lot more support because of what it is specifically.

[TropicalSunset]

That taper..



Also strong 450lb+ deadlift from a guy at death's door

Crazy how small his waist is here and how fresh his body looks. Heavy weights definitely take a toll.

And really shows you how important gear is, because this is in '94 and it took him another 4 years to transform himself. So he was obviously working out with the same intensity, but not gaining muscle at a crazy rate, until he changed his gear protocol.

[RoroCwalker]

Is it a mental illness?

Im assuming its a guy that turned "girl", don't know who he is.

The politically correct crowd probably doesn't want to refer to it as a mental illness, but I'm fairly positive that it is/was classified as a mental disorder, and actually is.

[psyke007]

You guys hear how Rachel Dolezal has jumped on the bandwagon and is now claiming to be 'transracial'. A black girl trapped in a white girl's body.

[PillClinton]

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm ****ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege.

logged in just to say that this had me rofl

dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners

omfg haha

[PillClinton]

The politically correct crowd probably doesn't want to refer to it as a mental illness, but I'm fairly positive that it is/was classified as a mental disorder, and actually is.

i'd take it a step further to say that it would be a mental illness to identify as transgender and be a republican at the same time. that made me cringe.

personally, i don't agree that just being transgender means you have a mental illness, but i do think mentally ill people can be transgender and are probably more prone to it.

This is just coming from my experience working in the mental health field and knowing transgender people with mental illness and at the same time meeting transgender people without them.

[Unbiasedfan]

meeting transgender people without them.

I never met anyone like that (nor any that were mentally ill). From your experience, how are they socially? Would you consider them normal (aside from the obvious)?

Im always very interested in people doing stuff outside of the norm, whether good, bad or neutral...at least it isn't boring.

[PillClinton]

I never met anyone like that (nor any that were mentally ill). From your experience, how are they socially? Would you consider them normal (aside from the obvious)?

Im always very interested in people doing stuff outside of the norm, whether good, bad or neutral...at least it isn't boring.

a few stand out. the first transgender person i met was deaf and she seemed very self conscious and there was probably some abuse in the past.

2nd was actually my brother's dorm roommate (girl to guy). my brother was pretty uncomfortable, but he was nice. Lucky for my brother (for his sake) he left the dorm within the first week.

After that i moved to san diego and I've run into a few well spoken transgender advocates. Part of the mental health awareness outreach we would do was being involved with lgbt centers and attending conferences where transgender/homosexual people would speak about their experiences being persecuted and identity issues. Some pretty brutal stories (i'll share one after im done). there were two transgender that spoke and they both came from healthy families with no rape/incest/abuse backgrounds and tranisitioned easily into their new sex with a lot of support from their families (i think this is the biggest factor really in the prevention of mental illness development).

One actually had a hilarious story. The first time she cross-dressed (wearing mothers clothes out to town) she came home and her mom had arrived home early and greeted her with astonishment. it turned into a heart-warming tale because despite having a few weeks of adjustment and acceptance apparently the mom offered to go shopping with her new daughter. pretty touching.

I also briefly worked with a transgender female to male who had a plethora of mental illness problems. i didn't like them at all. I got the impression they used their "illness" to collect disability checks. i could rant on this person and the impressions i got from them.

so yeah, thats been my overall experience. About one of the brutal stories, this one dude (homosexual) who looked like a total regular guy (would seriously go undetected by the radar) was roofied, raped and then tested positive for HIV. it still guts me. I even think he was really young at the time (like 21) or so. apparently there are a lot of homosexual predators and its pretty dangerous being young and gay because older, more experienced gay people can use "fresh-out-of-the-closet" insecurities against them and lure them in.

*shivers*

tl;dr coming from a healthy and supportive family will really help the prevention of mental illness development barring legit genetic schizophrenia and other mental illness (which are genuinely terrifying)

[Unbiasedfan]

a few stand out. the first transgender person i met was deaf and she seemed very self conscious and there was probably some abuse in the past.

2nd was actually my brother's dorm roommate (girl to guy). my brother was pretty uncomfortable, but he was nice. Lucky for my brother (for his sake) he left the dorm within the first week.

After that i moved to san diego and I've run into a few well spoken transgender advocates. Part of the mental health awareness outreach we would do was being involved with lgbt centers and attending conferences where transgender/homosexual people would speak about their experiences being persecuted and identity issues. Some pretty brutal stories (i'll share one after im done). there were two transgender that spoke and they both came from healthy families with no rape/incest/abuse backgrounds and tranisitioned easily into their new sex with a lot of support from their families (i think this is the biggest factor really in the prevention of mental illness development).

One actually had a hilarious story. The first time she cross-dressed (wearing mothers clothes out to town) she came home and her mom had arrived home early and greeted her with astonishment. it turned into a heart-warming tale because despite having a few weeks of adjustment and acceptance apparently the mom offered to go shopping with her new daughter. pretty touching.

I also briefly worked with a transgender female to male who had a plethora of mental illness problems. i didn't like them at all. I got the impression they used their "illness" to collect disability checks. i could rant on this person and the impressions i got from them.

so yeah, thats been my overall experience. About one of the brutal stories, this one dude (homosexual) who looked like a total regular guy (would seriously go undetected by the radar) was roofied, raped and then tested positive for HIV. it still guts me. I even think he was really young at the time (like 21) or so. apparently there are a lot of homosexual predators and its pretty dangerous being young and gay because older, more experienced gay people can use "fresh-out-of-the-closet" insecurities against them and lure them in.

*shivers*

tl;dr coming from a healthy and supportive family will really help the prevention of mental illness development barring legit genetic schizophrenia and other mental illness (which are genuinely terrifying)

So what you are saying is that mental illness can spawn from the circumstance they are in once they "change" (persecution, social hate, etc)? In other words, there isn't a mental illness that drives them (even if indirectly) to try and become one of different sex?

I am the most ignorant guy there is about this stuff (whether mental illness or sex change). But i am forever curious

[PillClinton]

So what you are saying is that mental illness can spawn from the circumstance they are in once they "change" (persecution, social hate, etc)? In other words, there isn't a mental illness that drives them (even if indirectly) to try and become one of different sex?

I am the most ignorant guy there is about this stuff (whether mental illness or sex change). But i am forever curious

both. there are definitely people who develop mental illness overtime. typically they may be prone to it, but certain circumstances can push them over the edge. The brain is a lot more fragile than people think. a few chemical imbalances can seriously mess you up temporarily or for good.

no 100% clear cut answer. Some children will have clear indications of schizophrenia at the age of 5, even... those are the worst, because they degenerate so quickly and its really... really sad. Others are prone to mild forms of mental illness and make choices or something happens and it triggers it.

Think of something like anorexia. its a mental illness that people aren't just born with. then compare that to schizophrenia.

btw, i'v enoticed that some transgenders embrace the fact that they were born the "wrong" gender and others despise it and resent it. out of the two, i've noticed the former appear way more healthy than the latter.

edit: i think i misunderstood your question. No, i don't think its 100% definitive that mental illness is the driving force to be transgender no more than being homosexual is.

tricky subject that has been coming about is transrace. obviously people are using it as a joke, but i thought i'd say something about it. People have already been trying to blur racial lines for decades. Brazil is known for "whiting" their skin, asians have constructive surgery to make their eyes less asian, white people will purposely try to darken their skin... honestly the world is just becoming more grey and it is what it is.

[TropicalSunset]

Honestly, I might never live in that type of a world, but I cannot wait until we get to the point where race is not an issue and people are judged on what they are like as people, not for silly cosmetic/superficial things like color of skin, nationality and so on.

[Larfleeze]

No mentally healthy person has ever willingly had their dick cut off for any reason other than a life threatening medical condition (and even then I'll take death any day)

[TropicalSunset]

No mentally healthy person has ever willingly had their dick cut off for any reason other than a life threatening medical condition (and even then I'll take death any day)

I don't think he is removing his penis. But I think the knee jerk action is to say it is wrong, but if you are trapped in a body you don't identify with, imagine how horrible that would be.