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Thread: BombDonald's Powerlifting Log
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05-23-2011, 08:08 AM #811
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05-23-2011, 08:20 AM #812
- Join Date: Aug 2006
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What I finally realized about SS is that it actually is a great option for any young guy new to lifting, who is generally small/weak and simply wants to add some strength and muscle: for instance when I was first starting out at a buck twenty five and weak as all hell, SS would have been perfect for helping me achieve at least a decent level of respectability, and then I could have tailored my training more specifically around my goals at that point moving forward.
The funny thing is that the major problem with SS is not really found in the program itself, but in the number of idiotic parrots on here (a majority that are still beginners themselves and still have yet to achieve anything more than average results) who have this cult worship towards Rippetoe and SS. Because they are repeatedly jumping in those threads and being so overly anal about such non-important stuff, it gives the entire program a bad rap. I think a lot of people that make fun of SS would actually have no problems recommending it to a beginner that is simply looking to build a solid foundation, but because the cult followers are so annoying with their praise one can't help but mock the entire idea of ever doing it.
You don't have to do a ton of bicep work to get bigger arms; hell I think you see me doing maybe 6 total sets of curls a week now. You don't need to do every single variation of DB/cable curl in existence if you're not a competing bodybuilder. But doing at least something for them is a lot better than going with the whole "no need for direct arm work" ridiculousness. Concentrate on going heavy on a few sets of some BB curls and that should be all you need.Return of the Mack?
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05-23-2011, 09:06 AM #813
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05-23-2011, 09:16 AM #814
- Join Date: Mar 2006
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This needs to be stickied in the workout forum. I entered into a battle with a group of Riptards to try and help out some of the beginners who would get jumped upon for suggesting any kind of intelligent additions to the program, but it proved to be futile. They do more harm than good.
Powerlifting log: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=172662011&page=1
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05-23-2011, 11:01 AM #815
- Join Date: Jul 2010
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And Avenged Sevenfold.
I agree pretty much completely. SS is going to give you size and strength, however, somebody who wants to be balanced should include some kind arm work and more pulling work early on. SS doesn't have these things. Telling a beginner who wants bigger arms NOT to curl isn't the best way to go about things IMO. At least doing some measly curls (or other lift they want to do for any bodypart) will start getting them more excited about going to the gym.
The idiots who just say DO THE ****ING PROGRAM YOU TARD are stupid. They offer nothing insightful and are just using the most basic program in the world to make it seem like they know something.
SS will give direction to people that have no idea what they are doing, because you literally have to be retarded to screw it up. It hits the basics hard and encourages you to eat much more than you are currently eating, which are key elements.
I still don't think SS is the end all of programs for beginners (not that anybody here said that, just clarifying), but it is still something that will add size/strength. Adding in a few extra things that you want to do is not going to completely **** up the program unless you are getting out of control with crazy amounts of volume, and in fact could simply cause someone to work harder because they are more motivated. Going balls out on a SS-esque program that is sub-optimal is still going to beat going through the motions with straight up SS if you are not putting in the work.
My arms are still small
I shouldn't have stopped curling a couple months ago haha, they definitely shrank a bit.
Blunt should post it. That could be an awesome thread, a complete shit storm if you will lol.
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05-23-2011, 11:09 AM #816
- Join Date: Jul 2010
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Monday, May 25th, 10:30am
1. Squats (no belt)
45x10
135x5
225x5
315x3
365x3
405x1
455x1
495x1 - was going to attempt a triple, but this was SLOW
585x lockout lol
635x lockout Lol
675x lockout LOL (about 6" ROM I would guess?)
*with knee wraps and a belt I could probably SPF squat that haha
2A. Bench Press
45x20
135x8
225x5
275x3
365x hold
405x hold
315x4 - I dunno. Just stopped. It was hard.
2B. Chins
BWTx5-5
40x3
60x4
3. Close Grip Bench Press (middle finger on knurling/smooth)
225x3
255x3
275x3 - easy
4. Curling Strength
45x12
90x5-5-5
5. Super Sit-ups
BWTx20-15
Just tired today, long night at work and I was running around a lot. Might just take it easy the rest of the week to give my body a little break. I feel like I really need it. Hopefully gonna smash a few PRs next week.
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05-23-2011, 07:44 PM #817
I did SS. It worked.
The cult of SS reminds me of what Gandi said (paraphrasing) "I like your Jesus very much, it's your christians I can't stand".
It's a nice template to follow. Squat 3 times a week. Consistantly add weight to the bar (in appropriate incriments) and eat a ton. But because Rip swears and acts like a jackass to people who question him, so do his "followers".
The irony, of course, being that most of his parrots haven't read his book or most of his work, where he talks about direct arm work being "assumed" since everbody curls.
the principals of guys like Ripp and Starr are fine and solid, but they are principals to be worked with, not followed to a T.Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153114941
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05-25-2011, 08:19 AM #818
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Exactly. You really can't go wrong squatting/pressing 3x week. You are causing both neural and muscular adaptations.
While cookie cutter programs are usually silly, since people are different, they aren't that much different that hitting the basics hard isn't going to spur them in the right direction.
BTW- Nice squatting in your latest video. 405 is going to come soon.
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05-25-2011, 09:50 AM #819
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05-25-2011, 09:51 AM #820
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05-25-2011, 12:11 PM #821
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05-25-2011, 12:26 PM #822
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Wednesday, May 25th, 11:30am
1. Squats (no belt)
45x15
195x50
*a buddy of mine had a little challenge so I did it. Probably had 10-15 more if I would have really pushed it, but my heart was pounding hard and my arms were numb lol
2. Bench Press
45x20
135x50 - ouch
3. Vomit
all my preworkout stuff haha. The Animal Rage and Fruit Punch Creatine mix didn't sit well together.
4. Seated Row
90x50 - death, and very sloppy by the end
5. Stumble to bathroom and vomit some more
Really thought I might die here, literally. My body was numb and I could barely see. Had my phone with me and was ready to call 911. For real.
That was seriously the scariest thing ever. I don't know exactly what caused it but I need to figure it out so it never happens again. The lifting wasn't THAT HARD that it would cause me to react like that. It had to have been nutritional. As soon as I got outside I perked up though. Very weird.
No Curling Strength or sit-ups today, for obvious reasons lol.
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05-25-2011, 12:30 PM #823
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05-25-2011, 01:03 PM #824
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05-25-2011, 02:01 PM #825
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05-25-2011, 02:31 PM #826
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05-25-2011, 08:40 PM #827
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05-25-2011, 08:52 PM #828
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05-26-2011, 05:58 AM #829
- Join Date: Jul 2010
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So was my puke, lol.
I am just pissed some other dude did 185x51.
Lol they are what they are. My ass is huge though. I rolled up my shorts too if you didn't notice
My calves are small for real though. They look stupid.
Ha thanks. My camera man is excellent.
Some other little fcker on youtube wants to do a 315 for reps contest, so I will be looking to hit it for 25-30 tomorrow. Go for 205x30 on bench too.
Heavy lifting will resume on monday.
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05-27-2011, 06:24 PM #830
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05-27-2011, 07:43 PM #831
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05-27-2011, 08:30 PM #832
- Join Date: Jul 2010
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Thanks and welcome.
Lol yeah, but some other guy did 190x63 or something like that now. FUCK IT haha. Didn't feel well today so I skipped going to the gym, otherwise was going to nail 315x30. We will see if that happens now, since I wanted 2 days after that before I squatted again. Maybe next Friday.
I slept a ton today to rest up (and catch up on my lack of sleep) and feel great now. Too bad my gym is closed tomorrow I will figure something out. Maybe some bodyweight stuff and kettlebells.
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05-27-2011, 08:36 PM #833
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05-27-2011, 10:13 PM #834
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There will definitely be a video.
I let some little ******* get the best of me on youtube when he asked my buddy why he didn't just do a 315 or 405 for reps contest for squats (obviously my buddy can't squat 405, and could only manage a few reps with 315). I told him if he wanted to do a 315 or 405 for reps contest to let me know, and he said 315 for reps. The kid doesn't have one video on there either so I am probably getting trolled.
I said I would do it today to give him something to shoot for when he does it on tuesday, but I never got to the gym. Oh well. I would still like to hit it next week since I have been itching to see how many I can get with 315 for a while.
Those kind of reps can really screw you up though IMO. My form goes to hell with higher reps and my squats become very quad dominant. That's why I stick to low reps.
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05-28-2011, 12:10 AM #835
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Saturday, May 28th, 1:45am (lol)
Handstand Push-ups/Close-grip Chins
+20x10-8-6 (vest)
BWTx12
Short and sweet. My sleeping problems caught up with me and I was out for the count most of the day today. I HATE working overnights. Figured if I was going to be up most of the night I should do something semi-productive.
That workout was short and sweet, only 15-20 minutes but DA PUMP was crazy.
About to start the game Fable 3 because my roommate says it is awesome.
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05-28-2011, 12:23 AM #836
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05-28-2011, 12:41 AM #837
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05-28-2011, 12:45 AM #838
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05-28-2011, 01:20 AM #839
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05-30-2011, 06:40 AM #840
- Join Date: Jul 2010
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Sunday, May 29th, 9:00pm
Handstand Push-ups/Close-grip Chins
BWTx15-10-6
*focused on control and smooth movement, done in about 10 minutes
Didn't know the gym was going to be closed on Memorial Day until my workout buddy texted me yesterday, so I got a quick little workout in before work.
Probably going to be only two super tough workouts this week. I would like to squat 495x3 and 315x30, dunno about bench yet. Might be adding the belt back into the mix. Maybe.
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