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    Originally Posted by cedricnumerouno View Post
    ^Lol. Because bodybuilding is one relaxed pose.
    Farah pls
    Or because Kai destroy him in 8/10 pose and almost every muscle group, was bigger, wider, better conditioned ? Why you not go 1 page back and trying to argue with me when i put picture and video of both nad how Kai was off, and Phil was on ?
    Just try it. But you know you cant, cause there is so much FACTS and arguments in Kai direction !!!
    Relaxed or not, Phil was pregnant probably by someone of the judges or the commentator .... And lets not forget all crap talk you Phil Heath fans talk about Kai gut before the Olympia and how he should not win cause of his gut .... This is laughable.
    And Ramy dwarf Phil big time. Even if my pic is zoomed i post it from Ramy thread, the Roro one it isnt.
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    Personally I think Phil should try and get in the same condition as he did in '11. I don't think any extra mass will help him (it might do just the opposite.)

    Even if he adds 5 more pounds of muscle, he will still be out sized by guys like Kai, Dennis & Ramy. That isn't going to change.

    With what his frame can hold, I think he just might have maxed out. Which is fine, but better to be extremely refined like he was in his first Olympia victory than what he went for this year.

    Still, I think at the finals he looked much better than he did towards the end of prejudging, though he started strong.

    Kai looked good once he picked up some steam in the prejudging and he looked good at the finals too, but is it just me or was there something off with his look?

    I don't mean with his physique, did he not have enough tan? oil?


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    Also, I would be interested to see what would happen if Phil would adjust his posing.

    His back double bicep is great and though I don't think his front double bicep is bad, I think it's good as well, but if he hit it differently perhaps like Rhoden and Kai do, would it look better?

    From looking at his 2011 win, he seemed to pose more relaxed and it looked better. His fdb is '11 is much better then the ones from 12 - 14.

    Also, if given the choice for most muscular, why go for the crab? I think he has a good crab mm, but his hands clasped or hand on hip is a much better pose for him.

    Why not take advantage of that?
    Other than that he looked very good but that stuck out to me as, odd.
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    Originally Posted by lordlosh View Post
    Or because Kai destroy him in 8/10 pose and almost every muscle group, was bigger, wider, better conditioned ? Why you not go 1 page back and trying to argue with me when i put picture and video of both nad how Kai was off, and Phil was on ?
    Just try it. But you know you cant, cause there is so much FACTS and arguments in Kai direction !!!
    Relaxed or not, Phil was pregnant probably by someone of the judges or the commentator .... And lets not forget all crap talk you Phil Heath fans talk about Kai gut before the Olympia and how he should not win cause of his gut .... This is laughable.
    And Ramy dwarf Phil big time. Even if my pic is zoomed i post it from Ramy thread, the Roro one it isnt.
    Dude I'm sick of your constant ****ing incoherent babbles. Same thing every ****ing time, reference the same ****ty quality video every single time, same insults every single time.

    I was addressing Farah posting one ****ty comparison picture, and you go on some moronic tangent again. Get the **** out of here.
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    Originally Posted by cedricnumerouno View Post
    Dude I'm sick of your constant ****ing incoherent babbles. Same thing every ****ing time, reference the same ****ty quality video every single time, same insults every single time.

    I was addressing Farah posting one ****ty comparison picture, and you go on some moronic tangent again. Get the **** out of here.
    No i wont. Im tired of Phil cheats and gifted wins also, but what i can do ? If you dont like my opinion and posts just skip it. Nobody forcing you to read them !!!
    And i know its hard to argue against facts, cause you cant.
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    Originally Posted by cedricnumerouno View Post
    Dude I'm sick of your constant ****ing incoherent babbles. Same thing every ****ing time, reference the same ****ty quality video every single time, same insults every single time.

    I was addressing Farah posting one ****ty comparison picture, and you go on some moronic tangent again. Get the **** out of here.
    Will never understand how he got mod repped. Must have paid his dues.
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    I love that video, damn they should have had a bigger bus. Looks a bit cramped. lol
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    Originally Posted by lordlosh View Post
    No i wont. Im tired of Phil cheats and gifted wins also, but what i can do ? If you dont like my opinion and posts just skip it. Nobody forcing you to read them !!!
    And i know its hard to argue against facts, cause you cant.
    Lol "facts". You know nothing about bodybuilding. There are no facts here. GTFO last time I'm responding to your nonsense.

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    Will never understand how he got mod repped. Must have paid his dues.
    Gotta pay your dues mayne

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    THIS is the Phil & Kai I want to see, seemed like such a genuine vid.
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    Originally Posted by cedricnumerouno View Post
    Lol "facts". You know nothing about bodybuilding. There are no facts here. GTFO last time I'm responding to your nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
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    Hahaha surprised you even remembered. Hopefully you recognized from the intentional misspellings that those statements were made out of good nature, and you do not suck.
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    Originally Posted by cedricnumerouno View Post
    Hahaha surprised you even remembered. Hopefully you recognized from the intentional misspellings that those statements were made out of good nature, and you do not suck.
    I hold severe grudges :P lol
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    Originally Posted by Problematique91 View Post
    Personally I think Phil should try and get in the same condition as he did in '11. I don't think any extra mass will help him (it might do just the opposite.)

    Even if he adds 5 more pounds of muscle, he will still be out sized by guys like Kai, Dennis & Ramy. That isn't going to change.

    With what his frame can hold, I think he just might have maxed out. Which is fine, but better to be extremely refined like he was in his first Olympia victory than what he went for this year.
    Yep, Phil's route = Dexter and Shawn Ray's route - quality over quantity. Only a few chosen ones can build quantity and quality at the same time, a la Ronnie Coleman or Dorian Yates.
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    Originally Posted by cedricnumerouno View Post
    ^What do you think of the Olympia sexnews?
    I don't want to get involved in these internet fights, but Heath won. In 2012 I had Kai winning, but not here. Kai has that "smooth" look and looking at the pics, he is often caught not posing. His right shoulder looks gone, something not right with his left tricep, it doesn't seem that he can properly show cuts in his chest in the mm, in the back relaxed it almost looks like his arms are too long, etc.

    Heath still has those balloon muscles. More separation in his thighs, round shoulders and full triceps and he is Mr Olympia. To me he wasn't knocked out at all.
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    I don't want to get involved in these internet fights, but Heath won. In 2012 I had Kai winning, but not here. Kai has that "smooth" look and looking at the pics, he is often caught not posing. His right shoulder looks gone, something not right with his left tricep, it doesn't seem that he can properly show cuts in his chest in the mm, in the back relaxed it almost looks like his arms are too long, etc.

    Heath still has those balloon muscles. More separation in his thighs, round shoulders and full triceps and he is Mr Olympia. To me he wasn't knocked out at all.
    The best honest opinion I read on this thread so far..

    I was watching the live stream and all the photos posted time by time and concluding the same but to my surprise everybody praising Kai's superior conditioning owning Phil etc which I didn't spectate at all specially in PJ and everybody was like KAI is a clear cut winner & I was like Phil vs Rhoden could be a better comparison..
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    Still so Sad for bonac. He should have been in second call out.
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