Deadlifts DON'T build mass.

[-Lucifer]

In after Clive.

[acrawlingchaos]

Deadlifts and squats are great but they won't give you much on arm size.

I bet you if you dead lifted AND did arm work, they would be bigger.

[adamdavidson47]

Deadlifts. People always say deadlifts are the king of exercises (in b4 squats).
They work the most muscle groups etc. etc.
Why then do 90% of the big guys in the gym exist and they don't deadlift because of (insert injury here).
And then two minutes later, you see this 160lb barely-even-lifts dude deadlifting 440lbs easy with decent form.

All you bull****ters who say..

DEADLIFTS WORK

Muscles involved
Torso
Front
Abdomen
Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
Obliques
Abdominal external oblique muscle
Back
Iliocostalis
Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
Latissimus dorsi
Levator scapulae
Longissimus
Quadratus lumborum
Rhomboideus major
Serratus posterior superior
Serratus posterior inferior
Splenius cervicis
Teres Major
Trapezius muscle
Legs
Quadriceps
Rectus femoris
Vastus lateralis
Vastus intermedius
Vastus medialis
Hamstrings
Biceps femoris muscle, long head
Biceps femoris muscle, short head
Semitendinosus
Semimembranosus
Hips
Gluteal muscles
Gluteus maximus
Gluteus minimus
Piriformis
Superior gemellus
Forearms
Flexor digitorum profundus

Blah blah blah... Don't be sheep who just follow what the internet says.
Just because deadlifts are touted as 'most muscles worked' doesn't mean **** when it comes to actual mass.
Enough with that boys. Quality > Quantity
How does doing 3 reps for 3 sets or doing singles build any mass besides lifting up your ego?

[heinstein]

Op, Google "muscular hypertrophy"

[IIISpartacusIII]

That first pic is a shrug.
Just sayin'

My point wasn't to show someone doing deadlifts ina picture but instead to show someone who built quite a bit of mass by way of deadlifting on a regular basis; just sayin'. Stan Efferding is a world class powerlifter so deadlifts definitely find their way into his back workouts.

[simonwitney]

OP your first problem is that you're doing 3 sets of 3, that's not for building muscle, that's for building power and strength (though more power).

stick to a 3-5 sets of 8-12 reps and eat a lot of food.

also start using straps, you'll need them when you need to carry on the workout and your forearms are fuhucked.

[InspecktaDeck]

Deadlifts and squats are great but they won't give you much on arm size.

priceless.

[MichaelCJ]

Some guys who like[d] to deadlift a lot:










There's like a thousand billion more, but you get the idea.

[DrJKiel]

The concept of core strength really eludes some people. Learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jM_nDXeWVA

[NZninja101]

I don't even deadlift. But this is idiotic.

Deadlifts. People always say deadlifts are the king of exercises (in b4 squats).

People with the 'king of all exercises' usually have the mentality of 'if you could only do 1', which makes their decision to put deadlifts at the top understandable. However yes, it is a bit silly.

They work the most muscle groups etc. etc.

They actually do though. That's not an invisible elephant pulling hundreds of pounds off the floor, that's your muscles.

Why then do 90% of the big guys in the gym exist and they don't deadlift because of (insert injury here).

Probably because they do a split and don't want carryover from the mass amount of muscles worked in deadlifts. They want to target certain muscles without overlap so they just do SLDL or something else instead.

And then two minutes later, you see this 160lb barely-even-lifts dude deadlifting 440lbs easy with decent form.

They might have skinny arms, a shallow chest and flat delts, but if they can deadlift 440 easy at 160, they'll have some decent lower back, forearm and trap development going on unless they don't eat. The guys who can deadlift decent weight and are skinny almost always have really amazing deadlift mechanics. Most of them can't even throw a couple plates around on bench for a few reps.

All you bull****ters who say..

DEADLIFTS WORK

Muscles involved
Torso
Front
Abdomen
Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
Obliques
Abdominal external oblique muscle
Back
Iliocostalis
Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
Latissimus dorsi
Levator scapulae
Longissimus
Quadratus lumborum
Rhomboideus major
Serratus posterior superior
Serratus posterior inferior
Splenius cervicis
Teres Major
Trapezius muscle
Legs
Quadriceps
Rectus femoris
Vastus lateralis
Vastus intermedius
Vastus medialis
Hamstrings
Biceps femoris muscle, long head
Biceps femoris muscle, short head
Semitendinosus
Semimembranosus
Hips
Gluteal muscles
Gluteus maximus
Gluteus minimus
Piriformis
Superior gemellus
Forearms
Flexor digitorum profundus

Blah blah blah... Don't be sheep who just follow what the internet says.
Just because deadlifts are touted as 'most muscles worked' doesn't mean **** when it comes to actual mass.

There's a difference between working a muscle, and working a muscle sufficiently. Some people don't know that. But that doesn't mean it's deadlifts fault.

Enough with that boys. Quality > Quantity
How does doing 3 reps for 3 sets or doing singles build any mass besides lifting up your ego?

3 sets of 3 reps on ANY exercise isn't particularly fantastic for building mass anyway.


In fact, the fact that so many people deadlift heavy for very low reps is part of the reason why you see skinny guys who can pull a surprising amount of weight. It's not exactly a fair comparison if you say an exercise is bad for size when you're already assuming it's done for only very low reps.

[Bladerunner1811]

Deadlifts. People always say deadlifts are the king of exercises (in b4 squats).
They work the most muscle groups etc. etc.
Why then do 90% of the big guys in the gym exist and they don't deadlift because of (insert injury here).
And then two minutes later, you see this 160lb barely-even-lifts dude deadlifting 440lbs easy with decent form.

All you bull****ters who say..

DEADLIFTS WORK

Muscles involved
Torso
Front
Abdomen
Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
Obliques
Abdominal external oblique muscle
Back
Iliocostalis
Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
Latissimus dorsi
Levator scapulae
Longissimus
Quadratus lumborum
Rhomboideus major
Serratus posterior superior
Serratus posterior inferior
Splenius cervicis
Teres Major
Trapezius muscle
Legs
Quadriceps
Rectus femoris
Vastus lateralis
Vastus intermedius
Vastus medialis
Hamstrings
Biceps femoris muscle, long head
Biceps femoris muscle, short head
Semitendinosus
Semimembranosus
Hips
Gluteal muscles
Gluteus maximus
Gluteus minimus
Piriformis
Superior gemellus
Forearms
Flexor digitorum profundus

Blah blah blah... Don't be sheep who just follow what the internet says.
Just because deadlifts are touted as 'most muscles worked' doesn't mean **** when it comes to actual mass.
Enough with that boys. Quality > Quantity
How does doing 3 reps for 3 sets or doing singles build any mass besides lifting up your ego?

try reading NO STUDYING AND IMPLIMENTING the training ideas in Brooks Kubiks book Dinosaur Training before running your mouth about stiff you don't know anything about!

[fugd]

you see this 160lb barely-even-lifts dude deadlifting 440lbs easy with decent form.

u mad OP?

[magician27]

how many tiny guys have you seen that can deadlift over 500 lbs? deadlifts will contribute to upper back and glute development a lot

[loganhart]

DL, along with all compounds rule! But...

When people say a movement builds mass or they ask what workout will build mass, it just makes me laugh.

Building mass (Muscle) requires so much more than lifting or conducting specific movements. Any tool can lift weight.

Programming, rest, nutrition, etc, coupled with high intensity and progressive lifting is what contributes to mass gain.

[mobikwa]

Deadlifts. People always say deadlifts are the king of exercises (in b4 squats).
They work the most muscle groups etc. etc.
Why then do 90% of the big guys in the gym exist and they don't deadlift because of (insert injury here).
And then two minutes later, you see this 160lb barely-even-lifts dude deadlifting 440lbs easy with decent form.

All you bull****ters who say..

DEADLIFTS WORK

Muscles involved
Torso
Front
Abdomen
Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
Obliques
Abdominal external oblique muscle
Back
Iliocostalis
Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
Latissimus dorsi
Levator scapulae
Longissimus
Quadratus lumborum
Rhomboideus major
Serratus posterior superior
Serratus posterior inferior
Splenius cervicis
Teres Major
Trapezius muscle
Legs
Quadriceps
Rectus femoris
Vastus lateralis
Vastus intermedius
Vastus medialis
Hamstrings
Biceps femoris muscle, long head
Biceps femoris muscle, short head
Semitendinosus
Semimembranosus
Hips
Gluteal muscles
Gluteus maximus
Gluteus minimus
Piriformis
Superior gemellus
Forearms
Flexor digitorum profundus

Blah blah blah... Don't be sheep who just follow what the internet says.
Just because deadlifts are touted as 'most muscles worked' doesn't mean **** when it comes to actual mass.
Enough with that boys. Quality > Quantity
How does doing 3 reps for 3 sets or doing singles build any mass besides lifting up your ego?

I know when I'm looking to build my front muscle I always do deadlifts first.

[doughnut91]

I know when I'm looking to build my front muscle I always do deadlifts first.

Front day is my favourite day

[Jasonk282]

i know when i'm looking to build my front muscle i always do deadlifts first.

wtf?

[Roidmonster55]

In for later reference
I'm enjoying this thread thoroughly

[kineticide]

Sorry for the late reply, OP has been busy. Coming back to a sea of red.
Its expected. I know I have many jimmies rustled. My apologies.
Point being, deadlifts is essentially a power movement and it barely (if any) contributes to overall hypertrophy.
It is not the 'ultimate mass builder' as so many intranetz articles have tried to force this ideology down your throats.
For those of you saying do 12 reps of DLs for hypertrophy, you guys don't even lift.
Form on deadlifts deteriorates exponentially with the more reps you go (unlike say bench where you can get a spotter to help you on the way up)
Any decent lifter knows heavy deadlifts pass your 5 rep max = automatic rounding whether you like it or not.
Before you say OP doesn't even lift, I deadlift on a regular basis. At 175lbs, 190kgx3 200kgx3 210kgx1 every week.
I don't have to prove anything. But if you *******s are so rustled, you can pm me and ill link it.

And to you *******s who post photos of elite PLs dan green etc. etc.
Its not the f**king deadlifts that make you big you ignorant kents. Its the tech.
If you think you're gonna look like that one day because of deadlifts, be my guest, ill wait for that day to happen.
For every ripped 800lb deadlifter you link me out there, ill link you 20 other fat-as-fk powerlifters who deadlift twice that.

So open your eyes and i shall reiterate. Deadlifts do not build mass.

[71Avido]

..snip..

Are you here for the sole purpose of stirring the pot?

Your entire post is filled with so many straw man arguments it's not even worth dissecting.

Your opinion has been stated, now go away.

[BombDonald]

Some guys who like[d] to deadlift a lot:










There's like a thousand billion more, but you get the idea.

Get the idea of what? Park, Colombo, and Green all train(ed) their balls off with a variety of exercises for all their muscles, including direct back work. It's insane to say they wouldn't have that level of development without deadlifts, because there is no way to know.

People can post all the pictures of huge dudes that are good at deads they want, but you can also find pictures or videos of good deadlifters with less than impressive physiques. Deadlifts are a good exercise, but they are in no way a replacement for direct back/trap/whatever work if you're looking for pure size. Saying that deads are necessary for size is something you simply can't prove as there are plenty of exceptions.

I know when I'm looking to build my front muscle I always do deadlifts first.

Lmfao.

[Get-n-fit]

Sorry for the late reply, OP has been busy. Coming back to a sea of red.
Its expected. I know I have many jimmies rustled. My apologies.
Point being, deadlifts is essentially a power movement and it barely (if any) contributes to overall hypertrophy.
It is not the 'ultimate mass builder' as so many intranetz articles have tried to force this ideology down your throats.
For those of you saying do 12 reps of DLs for hypertrophy, you guys don't even lift.
Form on deadlifts deteriorates exponentially with the more reps you go (unlike say bench where you can get a spotter to help you on the way up)
Any decent lifter knows heavy deadlifts pass your 5 rep max = automatic rounding whether you like it or not.
Before you say OP doesn't even lift, I deadlift on a regular basis. At 175lbs, 190kgx3 200kgx3 210kgx1 every week.
I don't have to prove anything. But if you *******s are so rustled, you can pm me and ill link it.

And to you *******s who post photos of elite PLs dan green etc. etc.
Its not the f**king deadlifts that make you big you ignorant kents. Its the tech.
If you think you're gonna look like that one day because of deadlifts, be my guest, ill wait for that day to happen.
For every ripped 800lb deadlifter you link me out there, ill link you 20 other fat-as-fk powerlifters who deadlift twice that.

So open your eyes and i shall reiterate. Deadlifts do not build mass.

Do you have any proof of the garbage you're spewing...a single study??


And go ahead show us one fat-as-fk power lifter than can deadlift 1600lbs!
Come on...you said you can link us to 20 of them!! LMFAO

[bradstearns]

There are many variables to consider when answering this question, If you're lifting heavy, that is in the 1 to 5 rep range, the deadlift is going to involve most of the muscles in both the posterior chain and the core. The heavy weight is going to do a lot to strengthen the myofibrils in both of those groups, even though some of them will go through a very abbreviated range of motion and some of them will even be restricted to an isometric contraction. That myofibril stimulation is definitely going to create some increased mass as well as increased strength.

Higher rep deadlifts, in the 10 to 15 range, or even higher, with a greater time under tension, are going to stimulate more of the muscle sarcoplasm and create a lot of muscle burn along the way. That's going to result in even more mass in the involved muscle groups.

In both cases, the deadlift is one of the best exercises for inducing exogenous hormone production, because of the percentage of total body muscle mass involved. Higher testosterone and HGH production is going to help with overall mass.

I think the deadlift is super exercise for overall body mass and I always keep one version or another in my routine. Just like all of my exercises, I vary the rep ranges, number of sets, speed of reps, grip and foot placement, over several workouts or, to a smaller degree, within a single workout.

If you haven't tried them give them a trial. Experimentation and finding out what works for you, not the other guys in the gym, is the key to continued progress.

[Jasonk282]

You can build a massive back without doing deadlifts and a lot of people do.

[chadwr85]

Deadlifts are the best core exercise, best lower back exercise, and best exercise for building correct posture. How exactly are they overrated?

[JRVowles]

I know when I'm looking to build my front muscle I always do deadlifts first.

#FrontMuscle

[acrawlingchaos]

#FrontMuscle

I must be doing dead lifts wrong. My front muscle hasn't grown an inch since I started doing them.


I would imagine a form check would be rather intimate though.

[Retoaded]

I must be doing dead lifts wrong. My front muscle hasn't grown an inch since I started doing them.


I would imagine a form check would be rather intimate though.

My front muscle grows several inches in a matter of minutes. Usually does not happen with deadlifts though. Shrinks sometimes too.

[adamdavidson47]

My front muscle grows several inches in a matter of minutes. Usually does not happen with deadlifts though. Shrinks sometimes too.

I was in the pool!!!!!

[chicago]

Deadlifts. People always say deadlifts are the king of exercises (in b4 squats).
They work the most muscle groups etc. etc.
Why then do 90% of the big guys in the gym exist and they don't deadlift because of (insert injury here).
And then two minutes later, you see this 160lb barely-even-lifts dude deadlifting 440lbs easy with decent form.

All you bull****ters who say..

DEADLIFTS WORK

Muscles involved
Torso
Front
Abdomen
Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
Obliques
Abdominal external oblique muscle
Back
Iliocostalis
Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
Latissimus dorsi
Levator scapulae
Longissimus
Quadratus lumborum
Rhomboideus major
Serratus posterior superior
Serratus posterior inferior
Splenius cervicis
Teres Major
Trapezius muscle
Legs
Quadriceps
Rectus femoris
Vastus lateralis
Vastus intermedius
Vastus medialis
Hamstrings
Biceps femoris muscle, long head
Biceps femoris muscle, short head
Semitendinosus
Semimembranosus
Hips
Gluteal muscles
Gluteus maximus
Gluteus minimus
Piriformis
Superior gemellus
Forearms
Flexor digitorum profundus

Blah blah blah... Don't be sheep who just follow what the internet says.
Just because deadlifts are touted as 'most muscles worked' doesn't mean **** when it comes to actual mass.
Enough with that boys. Quality > Quantity
How does doing 3 reps for 3 sets or doing singles build any mass besides lifting up your ego?

kid. you're 19. if you bought a ****ing bowflex you would put on mass. just lift, eat, sleep, repeat for 10 years. then come back and talk all the **** you want.