Brock Lesnar

***dwest*** · 12-03-2007, 01:42 PM

How do you think Brock Lesnar will fare in the UFC? That is one massive dude, isn't he fighting Frank Mir?

**Dragger** · 12-03-2007, 03:06 PM

Lesnar is not a fighter.

I see him losing.

**Ajuice72** · 12-03-2007, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dragger

Lesnar is not a fighter.

I see him losing.

What makes you say that? I mean the him not being a fighter.

**Calgore02** · 12-03-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by dwestberry

How do you think Brock Lesnar will fare in the UFC? That is one massive dude, isn't he fighting Frank Mir?

personally i love brock one of my favorite pro wrestlers of all time but its frank mir he was heavyweight champion previously so i think it'll be a good fight but i think mir submit him in the 2nd round after brock kicks his ass for all the first round

**kcomico** · 12-03-2007, 03:32 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Lesnar

Lesnar wrestled at Webster High School in Webster, South Dakota where he managed to have a 33-0 record in his senior year. [6] Lesnar later attended the University of Minnesota on a full wrestling scholarship for his junior and senior years of college; his roommate was fellow professional wrestler Shelton Benjamin who also served as Lesnar's assistant coach.[7] Lesnar won the 2000 NCAA wrestling championship as a heavyweight after placing second in 1999. Prior to joining the Minnesota Golden Gophers, Lesnar also wrestled at Bismarck State College in Bismarck, North Dakota.[3] Lesnar finished his amateur career as a two-time NJCAA All-American, two-time NCAA All-American, two-time Big Ten Champion, and the 2000 NCAA heavyweight champion with a record of 106-5 overall in four years of college.

**demonator** · 12-03-2007, 03:34 PM

Mir has Brock in the experience but Brock owns Mir in the power department. and to top it off, Brock has a very large background in amateur wrestling, won almost all of his matches.

**plus1more** · 12-03-2007, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by kcomico

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Lesnar

Lesnar wrestled at Webster High School in Webster, South Dakota where he managed to have a 33-0 record in his senior year. [6] Lesnar later attended the University of Minnesota on a full wrestling scholarship for his junior and senior years of college; his roommate was fellow professional wrestler Shelton Benjamin who also served as Lesnar's assistant coach.[7] Lesnar won the 2000 NCAA wrestling championship as a heavyweight after placing second in 1999. Prior to joining the Minnesota Golden Gophers, Lesnar also wrestled at Bismarck State College in Bismarck, North Dakota.[3] Lesnar finished his amateur career as a two-time NJCAA All-American, two-time NCAA All-American, two-time Big Ten Champion, and the 2000 NCAA heavyweight champion with a record of 106-5 overall in four years of college.

33-0 his senior year? he lost the state championship...

**IronMan316** · 12-03-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by plus1more

33-0 his senior year? he lost the state championship...

ufc.com-

A native of Webster, South Dakota who now makes his home in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, the 6 foot 3 ? , 265 pound Lesnar first made a name for himself as a wrestler at Webster High School, compiling a 33-0 record in his senior year.

**dog20** · 12-03-2007, 09:21 PM

MMA Record
1 Win (1 Submission, 0 decisions), 0 Losses
Date Result Opponent Event Method Round Time
06/02/2007 Win Min Soo Kim K-1 Dynamite!! USA Submission (Strikes) 1 1:09

**kingarty** · 12-03-2007, 09:23 PM

The dude has no hands.

**Mr. Manlet** · 12-03-2007, 09:34 PM

i like his style and attitude he brings to the ring..but he isnt that great..at all

**guest89** · 12-03-2007, 10:04 PM

He's been training MMA for several years now, so he's hardly new to the sport, he's just new to the professional MMA fighting.

Honestly I hope he gets KTFO... I'm not sure why though.

**Dragger** · 12-04-2007, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by guest89

He's been training MMA for several years now, so he's hardly new to the sport, he's just new to the professional MMA fighting.

Honestly I hope he gets KTFO... I'm not sure why though.

I keep hearing he's only been training full time for MMA about a year.

I too hope he get's KTFO because he hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve a fight with Mir or to even be in UFC. Other fighters who have been training for several years fighting in these 3rd world local fights while working a job just to make ends meet are doing everything they can to work up the ladder; meanwhile Lesnar, who looks like he's taking a huge **** in every pic I see of him with that dick tatoo'ed on his chest, pretends to wrestle in WWE and wrestled for real about a decade ago just skips to the front of the line and says "I'm a MMA'ist, I fought once so I'm here to take it all!".

Bull****, he's a publicity stunt that will prove to go wrong soon enough.

***dwest*** · 12-04-2007, 05:54 AM

Last time I watched Mir fight he won but he gassed in the second round.

**zmurphy** · 12-04-2007, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Dragger

I keep hearing he's only been training full time for MMA about a year.

I too hope he get's KTFO because he hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve a fight with Mir or to even be in UFC. Other fighters who have been training for several years fighting in these 3rd world local fights while working a job just to make ends meet are doing everything they can to work up the ladder; meanwhile Lesnar, who looks like he's taking a huge **** in every pic I see of him with that dick tatoo'ed on his chest, pretends to wrestle in WWE and wrestled for real about a decade ago just skips to the front of the line and says "I'm a MMA'ist, I fought once so I'm here to take it all!".

Bull****, he's a publicity stunt that will prove to go wrong soon enough.

you can thanks Dana for that. its not Lesnars fault. i agree that he does need more than 1 whole pro fight to prove himself and get the chance to be in the largest mma show in the world. i know there are alot of fighters out there that can't afford to train fulltime, they have to provide fot their families also. it sucks but unfortunately, thats life. its reall boils down to the ppv ratings and $$$$$$$$$$$.

Lesnar does have some great grappling skills. if he can learn some stand up and if he doesn't have a glass jaw, he may do well. he may suprise some people.

like i said before i think he should earn the right fo this kind of fight. but it aggrevates the ****e out of me that some people are putting him down because he was in the WWE. I AM not a WWE watcher but he proved himself in high school and college as far a very good wrestler. what aggrevate me about the haters is, after college, how else could he make the $ he made in WWE? except for the small percentage of atheletes that have the skill to go to the olympics or world games, college is pretty much the end of the road for wrestling. sucks but its true.

**HardGainer82** · 12-04-2007, 07:48 AM

Man...I think there's a good chance that Mir will beat him, but if Brock wins I am going to bust so many of your balls about it!

**-RiK-** · 12-04-2007, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by kingarty

The dude has no hands.

lol, his standup is untested, but he hit min soo kim with 2 or 3 really hard shots and he tapped.

also to the guy that said he's not a fighter? by the time his fight comes around, he would have been training just about 2 years. yeah it's not a lifetime, but given his athletic credidentials and his learning ability, i think he can improve and be a force, he's immensely strong too.

**ArmbarTapout** · 12-04-2007, 08:00 AM

Didnt Koscheck get on TUF without having a single pro fight to his name? If he did, it was 2-0 record or something cause I'm pretty sure he got on that show based mostly off of his wrestling credintials.

Yes, he was a more sucessful wrestler than Lesnar, but still, people clamored to him because he was on TUF and couldnt wait to see him fight, even though he was unproven. Now he's a fan favorite and exciting to watch.

Why doesnt Lesnar get that same respect? Let him sink or swim before everybody buries him.

**kingarty** · 12-04-2007, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by ArmbarTapout

Didnt Koscheck get on TUF without having a single pro fight to his name? If he did, it was 2-0 record or something cause I'm pretty sure he got on that show based mostly off of his wrestling credintials.

Yes, he was a more sucessful wrestler than Lesnar, but still, people clamored to him because he was on TUF and couldnt wait to see him fight, even though he was unproven. Now he's a fan favorite and exciting to watch.

Why doesnt Lesnar get that same respect? Let him sink or swim before everybody buries him.

Kos was 2-0 when he was on TUF with wins over Cruz Chacon and Luke Cummo.

Kos isn't really a fan favorite or exciting to watch.

**kingarty** · 12-04-2007, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by dwestberry

Last time I watched Mir fight he won but he gassed in the second round.

wow strong wes sims from UFC 46?

**pranab** · 12-04-2007, 11:26 AM

I know Mir used to be a great fighter, he has been outta commission for a while. Would like to see how he would do. I personally am a Brock Lesnar Fan and would love to watch this fight...he's a power house, with a good wrestling background + he has trained for MMA for a while. I hope this is a great match.

**kingarty** · 12-04-2007, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by pranab

I know Mir used to be a great fighter, he has been outta commission for a while. Would like to see how he would do. I personally am a Brock Lesnar Fan and would love to watch this fight...he's a power house, with a good wrestling background + he has trained for MMA for a while. I hope this is a great match.

Mir out of comission for a while? He fought in August and put the guy away in a little over a minute.

Lesnar has been training MMA for a while? 2 years, max. if 2 years of MMA could get anyone in the UFC, everyone would be a UFC fighter. Mir has been training 5 times longer than Lesnar at least. not to mention fighting REAL guys while brock was still hitting tools over the head with chairs.

**StevieY** · 12-04-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by dwestberry

How do you think Brock Lesnar will fare in the UFC? That is one massive dude, isn't he fighting Frank Mir?

I can't believe how many people are hating on Lesnar. Get over it, I hope he wins

**Dragger** · 12-04-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by StevieY

I can't believe how many people are hating on Lesnar. Get over it, I hope he wins

I can't believe how many people are giving him free credit he didn't earn.

Does everyone who wrestled at least a decade ago deserve a shot at the current Professional Heavy Weights?

I keep hearing the same thing "But he's STRONG!" And? How many strong people been taken down by smaller weaker opponents since 1993? Skill comes 10X's before muscle.

Hell, speed stanima flexibility skill and balance all come before muscle. What's he gonna do? Bench Press Mir to death while getting punched in the face? Is he gonna curl him to a decision? If all you needed was strength then all the Pros would ditch their trainers and take up full time powerlifting, 'don't need any of that skill crap, just gets in the way'.

Last I checked there haven't been any powerlifters dominating MMA.

**Lift_harder** · 12-04-2007, 03:18 PM

This could be a snoozefest if Lesnar keeps getting the takedown but can't pass guard and can't get any G&P going...

**hardheart** · 12-04-2007, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by demonator

Mir has Brock in the experience but Brock owns Mir in the power department. and to top it off, Brock has a very large background in amateur wrestling, won almost all of his matches.

Wrong.

If you compare their amateur experience Brock and Mir are probably about even in overall competition. Though Brock has yet to fight in the UFC, he fought in front of the largest MMA crowd ever in the US at the most recent Heroes event.

Brock has performed in front of more fans, more times than Mir ever will in his entire life. Anyone who thinks this fight is anything but lose/lose for Mir is kidding themselves. If he loses, he lost to a rookie and that's a shame. If he wins he beat a rookie, whoopti doo. For Brock it's all win/win against an opponent who suits his style PERFECTLY. Mir likes the bottom. Brock likes the top. (NO HOMO). I don't see this ending well for Mir.

**AUSTINSCOBRA** · 12-04-2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by ArmbarTapout

Let him sink or swim before everybody buries him.

exactly!

**IronMan316** · 12-04-2007, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by HardGainer82

Man...I think there's a good chance that Mir will beat him, but if Brock wins I am going to bust so many of your balls about it!

x2. I'm a big fan of Lesnar and I think he has the tools to succeed in the UFC, but nobody really knows the extent of his MMA ability right now. I'm not making any bold predictions since I could very well end up w/my foot in my mouth. That said, I'll be right there w/ya in calling out all the haters on here if he performs well/wins, lol.

***dwest*** · 12-04-2007, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by StevieY

I can't believe how many people are hating on Lesnar. Get over it, I hope he wins

I like the guy.

**Dragger** · 12-04-2007, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by hardheart

Brock has performed in front of more fans, more times than Mir ever will in his entire life.

What does the number of fans he's "performed" in front of have to do with this fight?

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