Trump I can understand, but why do some miscers support Hitler and Nazis?

[Stizzel]

Your lack of education and inability to see nuance is not an argument for good vs evil arguments

Jung would be disappointed stizzie

Muhhhh simplistic dichotomy

You just dont want to have to admit that grooming children is wrong.

It is though

[Smithers115]

You just dont want to have to admit that grooming children is wrong.

It is though

bro go project somewhere else, lmao kids always on the mind eh big guy

also we've gone from evil to wrong for the illiterate

[Islandboyo]

Were you wearing your helmet while you wrote this

You're out of your league here buddy. Get back to me when you have an intelligent argument to make.

"Liberalism, Democracy, and Socialism look upon social groups as aggregates of living individuals; for Fascism they are the recapitulating unity of the indefinite series of generations. For Liberalism, society has no purposes other than those of the members living at a given moment. For Fascism, society has historical and immanent ends of preservation, expansion, improvement, quite distinct from those of the individuals which at a given moment compose it; so distinct in fact that they may even be in opposition”

[J.L.C.]

You're out of your league here buddy. Get back to me when you have an intelligent argument to make.

"Liberalism, Democracy, and Socialism look upon social groups as aggregates of living individuals; for Fascism they are the recapitulating unity of the indefinite series of generations. For Liberalism, society has no purposes other than those of the members living at a given moment. For Fascism, society has historical and immanent ends of preservation, expansion, improvement, quite distinct from those of the individuals which at a given moment compose it; so distinct in fact that they may even be in opposition”

Alfredo Rocco (1875-1935) was born in Naples. Rocco was a professor of law and jurist. He was an adviser to Benito Mussolini and considered one of the principal theorists of the fascist regime.

Not surprising he was a fan of fascism.

[NitrogenWidget]

Mussolini was a marxist. Fascism is socialism with borders

the way Canada handled the trucker strike was fascist.

[J.L.C.]

the way Canada handled the trucker strike was fascist.

When did Canada have a trucker strike?

[Islandboyo]

Alfredo Rocco (1875-1935) was born in Naples. Rocco was a professor of law and jurist. He was an adviser to Benito Mussolini and considered one of the principal theorists of the fascist regime.

Not surprising he was a fan of fascism.

You know that pretty much every human society has had what one would consider a fascist way of life except for relatively recently? Fascist Germany and Italy were not new, they were simply a return to traditionalism and how things use to be( are supposed to be)

[Stizzel]

bro go project somewhere else, lmao kids always on the mind eh big guy

also we've gone from evil to wrong for the illiterate

We can use evil rather than a synonym if you prefer. Just because god is dead doesnt mean what you do to children isnt evil.

[Phil9]

Mussolini was a marxist. Fascism is socialism with borders

Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage..

-Benito Mussolini/Giovanni Gentile "What is Fascism"

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/...ni-fascism.asp




Jizzel embarrassing himself yet again.

[Kraken]

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/...ni-fascism.asp




Jizzel embarrassing himself yet again.

Did you just use Mussolini's media propaganda to prove with Fascism was? Lol you know that propaganda is designed to deceive, right?

Most of that is completely ideological. However, if you look closely, you will find exactly what it is; absolute and arbitrary control over the means of production. It's right in the article you posted

[Phil9]

Did you just use Mussolini's media propaganda to prove with Fascism was? Lol you know that propaganda is designed to deceive, right?

Most of that is completely ideological. However, if you look closely, you will find exactly what it is; absolute and arbitrary control over the means of production. It's right in the article you posted

Fascism uses the philosophy of corporatism to control the means of production and doesn't promote class warfare. You are claiming corporatism is Marxist? Fuking lol.


Maybe you are the one who should have read.

And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society

Try working on that.

[NitrogenWidget]

We can use evil rather than a synonym if you prefer. Just because god is dead doesnt mean what you do to children isnt evil.

and moose.
don't forget the moose.

[Stizzel]

You're out of your league here buddy. Get back to me when you have an intelligent argument to make.

"Liberalism, Democracy, and Socialism look upon social groups as aggregates of living individuals; for Fascism they are the recapitulating unity of the indefinite series of generations. For Liberalism, society has no purposes other than those of the members living at a given moment. For Fascism, society has historical and immanent ends of preservation, expansion, improvement, quite distinct from those of the individuals which at a given moment compose it; so distinct in fact that they may even be in opposition”

Theres more to fascism than just racial/social segregation. It is a fundamentally collectivist and authoritarian ideology. I get that the racial aspect is the most important to you and likely its major appeal but there is more to it than that

[Islandboyo]

Theres more to fascism than just racial/social segregation. It is a fundamentally collectivist and authoritarian ideology. I get that the racial aspect is the most important to you and likely its major appeal but there is more to it than that

What does your statement have to do with anything that is being discussed here?

Did I say that fascism= racial/social segregation? Because that would be weird since that is 100% untrue.

Collectivist? Sure I can allow that. The group is more important than the individual, yes, this is something that is true in any true fascist nation.

Authoritarian? There is no government that has ever existed that isn't "authoritarian". The fact that Fascist nations like Germany or Italy were upfront and direct about it unlike the modern west that is a dictatorship that pretends to be free and fair for its sheep doesn't change that.

There is much more to fascism than an authoritarian and collectivist society....

[Stizzel]

What does your statement have to do with anything that is being discussed here?

Did I say that fascism= racial/social segregation? Because that would be weird since that is 100% untrue.

Collectivist? Sure I can allow that. The group is more important than the individual, yes, this is something that is true in any true fascist nation.

Authoritarian? There is no government that has ever existed that isn't "authoritarian". The fact that Fascist nations like Germany or Italy were upfront and direct about it unlike the modern west that is a dictatorship that pretends to be free and fair for its sheep doesn't change that.

There is much more to fascism than an authoritarian and collectivist society....

Authoritarian, collectivist, anti capitalist...socialism with borders

You are responding to me as if my description of hitler/fascism as evil is based on the the homogeneous aspect and not everything else

[Leonydus]

Authoritarian, collectivist, anti capitalist...socialism with borders

You are responding to me as if my description of hitler/fascism as evil is based on the the homogeneous aspect and not everything else

[Paul Kreul]

The world and especially Americans have been greatly misinformed about Hitler and the Nazis.

Americans are some of the most stupid people in the world, having believed the propaganda that Germany wanted to take over the world, or they were "evil racist" that wanted to expel jews for no reason at all, hell bent on world domination.

Most fat brained mericans still think muslims did 911 or that the war in the middle east was for oil or poppy fields, lol.

The American media is 100% owned by Zionists, so its really no surprise. They control what most of the people hear from the time they wake up to the time they go to bed.

The Greatest Story Never Told should be required viewing, before you pass judgements on Hitler or read and watch his speeches. Until then you have a one-sided opinion and you just look like an ignorant retard.

The reality is that the Nazis and Hitler was a slave revolt. an extremely effective slave revolt. period. That is why Hitler and the Nazis are the most evil people in history. Thats why to this day their biggest fear is Whites expressing their own interests in White countrys, and why modern politics revolves around the holocaust.

I do believe that there is an outright Zionist control, however, that is a very small powerful sect that claim to be Jews. My dad (step) is Jewish, my brothers, sisters, friends, etc are Jewish, I've lived around Jews my entire life, they are not what MISC. portrays them to be.

However much of what you stated is true, American propaganda changes history, they did the same with Lincoln and the Civil War. It wasn't so much about slavery as it was fighting against what the Government was telling you what you could and could not do..own land, property, etc. Now you never own land (skip a property tax payment..see how that goes)..and you pay taxes on literally everything.

It's a "victors" tale of history, and it is never the full truth.

[Kraken]

I do believe that there is an outright Zionist control, however, that is a very small powerful sect that claim to be Jews. My dad (step) is Jewish, my brothers, sisters, friends, etc are Jewish, I've lived around Jews my entire life, they are not what MISC. portrays them to be.

However much of what you stated is true, American propaganda changes history, they did the same with Lincoln and the Civil War. It wasn't so much about slavery as it was fighting against what the Government was telling you what you could and could not do..own land, property, etc. Now you never own land (skip a property tax payment..see how that goes)..and you pay taxes on literally everything.

It's a "victors" tale of history, and it is never the full truth.

Exactly. These are great examples of what history is no longer taught. Lincoln was a terrible president. He expanded the government, taxes, control etc. over many aspects of our lives. With the freedom of the Slaves, came Slavery to the state for all.

[Islandboyo]

We can call this socialism, but really it's traditionalism. Every ethnic group had to take care of each other and work together in order to survive and propagate. National Socialism, or Fascism was simply a return to the roots to save their respective nations from death. Every group of people must have leadership who has total control.

Anything else is a lie

[J.L.C.]

I do believe that there is an outright Zionist control, however, that is a very small powerful sect that claim to be Jews. My dad (step) is Jewish, my brothers, sisters, friends, etc are Jewish, I've lived around Jews my entire life, they are not what MISC. portrays them to be.

However much of what you stated is true, American propaganda changes history, they did the same with Lincoln and the Civil War. It wasn't so much about slavery as it was fighting against what the Government was telling you what you could and could not do..own land, property, etc. Now you never own land (skip a property tax payment..see how that goes)..and you pay taxes on literally everything.

It's a "victors" tale of history, and it is never the full truth.

Is it religion, geographical ancestry, or both that facilitates lumping diverse people into a single group?

[Smithers115]

We can use evil rather than a synonym if you prefer. Just because god is dead doesnt mean what you do to children isnt evil.

Id like to point out I call you retarded because of your childlike and simplistic view of the world whilst also being arrogant about it. You're randomly accusing me up supporting raping children in a thread about nazis to support your retarded buddy in "team sport"

Its disgusting and morally abhorrent

Kindly go jump off a cliff bro

and by bro i never mean my bro you mental midget fa ggot

SRS

[Stizzel]

Id like to point out I call you retarded because of your childlike and simplistic view of the world whilst also being arrogant about it. You're randomly accusing me up supporting raping children in a thread about nazis to support your retarded buddy in "team sport"

Its disgusting and morally abhorrent

Kindly go jump off a cliff bro

and by bro i never mean my bro you mental midget fa ggot

SRS

Thats twice now that simply pointing out that molesting children is evil gets you so angry that you drop your goofy stoner facade

Interdasting

[Smithers115]

Thats twice now that simply pointing out that molesting children is evil gets you so angry that you drop your goofy stoner facade

Interdasting

because some of us are responsible adults who have had to interact with victims and actual abusers in the clinical setting/ testified in CPS cases

pro tip, when you look like youre a deadset for the next episode of Chris Hanson you probably shouldn't be calling others ****s fat fuk

Again, some dumbass criticises the left because apparently they cannot understand simplistic things like black and white, good and evil, thats genuinely retarded. And you decided to defend him, realising its a no win scenario because maybe, just maybe you possess a shred of self awareness even you can see how retarded that is, pivot to chomo ****

Fascinating youve brought it up thrice now out of the blue...

i wonder if its cause

you look like you offer little kids candy??? Maybe thats it




lol my stoner facade makes you look like a bumbling retard, so whos that actually insulting bro?

[Stizzel]

Yeah all socialists have this line. Just ask JLC. Yet when they're in power if you use your property in ways they disapprove of the libertarian love for individualism vanishes and you go to the camps

[Stizzel]

because some of us are responsible adults who have had to interact with victims and actual abusers in the clinical setting/ testified in CPS cases

pro tip, when you look like youre a deadset for the next episode of Chris Hanson you probably shouldn't be calling others ****s fat fuk

Again, some dumbass criticises the left because apparently they cannot understand simplistic things like black and white, good and evil, thats genuinely retarded. And you decided to defend him, realising its a no win scenario because maybe, just maybe you possess a shred of self awareness even you can see how retarded that is, pivot to chomo ****

Fascinating youve brought it up thrice now out of the blue...

i wonder if its cause

you look like you offer little kids candy??? Maybe thats it




lol my stoner facade makes you look like a bumbling retard, so whos that actually insulting bro?

Look champ you came at me for even considering 'evil' to be a valid concept and now you can't even apply your position to a current day political discussion without absolutely melting down. You're right that it is a fairly simple concept; that's the point. You can't even handle a simple concept. Total road block for you, an insurmountable obstacle. Which of course is why you have to go on long diatribes about how super duper smart you are; you know no one would ever reach that conclusion on their own.

You know what science calls people like you that don't experience morality aka good and evil? Psychopaths, that's what.

[suave2000]

Did you just use Mussolini's media propaganda to prove with Fascism was? Lol you know that propaganda is designed to deceive, right?

Most of that is completely ideological. However, if you look closely, you will find exactly what it is; absolute and arbitrary control over the means of production. It's right in the article you posted

Bro you're still making the argument that facism is left Wing?

You made a thread with that retarded argument and got ridiculed in it for being so blatantly wrong.

Please tell us more about you're right and how every historian and sociologist is wrong lol

[Banderistan]

You might be surprised to find out they have the same fanbase

this

[Banderistan]

Understanding Hitler and Stalin doesn't make you a sympathizer though. I understand why the people elected Hitler. I understand the appeal during the great suffering that was created by the far left. To feel like there are no choices/options left to defeat the leftists because their actions are covert (feminine vs masculine aggression)

Feminine violence and aggression are many times worse than masculine.

I love how you equate hitler with Stalin lmfao it's hilarious except it's not. Die.

[Smithers115]

I'm not having a meltdown, I'm calling you a ****ing loser for constantly pivoting to children when it's not even remotely appropriate...

Lol at book-dropping the first cover you saw, lmaoooo

Wait so the side that completely controls academia and nuance cant understand simplistic concepts like good and evil? Sure thing chief...

The reason why good and evil is an overly simplistic dichotomy we teach to children is that unfortunately, we can't inherently or inductively ever know whether someone is evil unless you happen to be clairvoyant. It fails to capture the nuances and intricacies of human behavior and motivations. A multitude of factors such as cultural background, personal experiences, upbringing, generational trauma, and individual beliefs influences people's actions and subjective morality. Broad generalizations on innate good or evil are rudimentary and shallow beyond a doubt. Not only that but culturally evil is not a monolith and viewing things through that lens is again, infantile. We also need to live in reality where ethical problems are often never black and white but live in a haze of grey and decisions have both positive and negative consequences and this binary framework of either good or evil doesn't work. It also lacks the possibility of growth and changes labeling someone outright.


But yes stizzel, im both a moron and pyschopath...

Also for the uneducated, psychopaths lack empathy, remorse, and moral conscience. They can fully understand right and wrong, good and evil, they just aren't motivated or compelled by it like normal individuals.

sCiEnCe

[Polaris]

I love how you equate hitler with Stalin lmfao it's hilarious except it's not. Die.

You're right, it's a hilarious insult to Hitler.