Why is my Bench so Low Compared to my DB Bench?

[absf]

So my db bench is 60 in each, while my bb is only 135. To add to that, my bench pr is 140. I was wondering why my bb bench is so low. I don't think it's my form, since I do the same thing when I do db bench (kness at 90 degrees, use leg drive on final reps, lie on shoulder blades rather than flat), and I keep my hands slightly out of shoulder width. The only two things I think I can do is start benching more, or maybe my triceps are weaker than my chest and front delt. Also, a monthish ago when my db bench was 50, my bb bench was 135, but even though I added 10lb to each hand, my bb bench remained the same. So I was wondering if all I need to do is bb bench more, and how long would it take for my bb bench to db bench ratio to increase?

[TolerantLactose]

(kness at 90 degrees, use leg drive on final reps, lie on shoulder blades rather than flat), and I keep my hands slightly out of shoulder width.

Your form sucks.

[air2fakie]

Did you really need to create a second thread on this subject after you already got responses last time?

[safcpaul]

Seems about right to me. My dumbell bench is 100 per hand and my barbell is about 220ish

[absf]

Your form sucks.

Which part specifically?

[absf]

Did you really need to create a second thread on this subject after you already got responses last time?

I didn't make a prior thread.

[absf]

Seems about right to me. My dumbell bench is 100 per hand and my barbell is about 220ish

But isn't my db to bb bench ratio pretty small? I have friends who press less than me (50 & 55lb) but their bench pr's are a lot higher (160 and 175). I'm almost at the point where my db bench is the same as my bb bench.

[air2fakie]

I didn't make a prior thread.

Right. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=182697363

But isn't my db to bb bench ratio pretty small? I have friends who press less than me (50 & 55lb) but their bench pr's are a lot higher (160 and 175). I'm almost at the point where my db bench is the same as my bb bench.

Both aren't great, and your form from this and your prior thread sounds like it sucks for both. You also probably quarter rep your db press. There's no proper ratio, if you want to increase one or both, train one or both - and get stronger in general with a proper overall program.

Not sure what you're complaining about. Your lifts are what you train them to be.

[paulinkansas]

Dumb bell presses will utilize assistant secondary movers (stabilizers) in the lift. When you bench with a straight bar the use of stabilizers is much less. That's why you can do more weight with a bar.

[safcpaul]

But isn't my db to bb bench ratio pretty small? I have friends who press less than me (50 & 55lb) but their bench pr's are a lot higher (160 and 175). I'm almost at the point where my db bench is the same as my bb bench.

Not really. Just focus on getting stronger. You're not really at a strength level to be bothered about this stuff. Also make sure you lift with proper form. My dumbell and barbell bench both touch my chest. I always see people Dumbell benching half or even quarter reps

[absf]

Not really. Just focus on getting stronger. You're not really at a strength level to be bothered about this stuff. Also make sure you lift with proper form. My dumbell and barbell bench both touch my chest. I always see people Dumbell benching half or even quarter reps

Alright. Is it fine if I don’t fully lock out on db? Personally, it feels like my chest does more work without locking out.

[TolerantLactose]

Which part specifically?

Everything I quoted. Knee angle isn't a consideration in your set up. Leg drive should be on every rep. You should set up on your traps if you're going for weight. Slight outside shoulder width grip is very narrow, even for close-grip bench.

[absf]

Both aren't great, and your form from this and your prior thread sounds like it sucks for both. You also probably quarter rep your db press. There's no proper ratio, if you want to increase one or both, train one or both - and get stronger in general with a proper overall program.

Not sure what you're complaining about. Your lifts are what you train them to be.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I thought I discarded the first one. I looked at a video on proper form, and I can see that my form can improve, but for db bench, I do full rom (aside locking out elbows at the top)

[air2fakie]

Oh, I thought I discarded the first one. I looked at a video on proper form, and I can see that my form can improve, but for db bench, I do full rom (aside locking out elbows at the top)

Well this is a pretty circular discussion then. See my comments above both on your form/training & your prior thread. Good luck!

[paulinkansas]

I do full rom (aside locking out elbows at the top)

That's like saying I'm following a strict diet. Except I have a cheat meal each night of pizza, burgers, wings.

[air2fakie]

That's like saying I'm following a strict diet. Except I have a cheat meal each night of pizza, burgers, wings.

And when someone says that, it's usually much worse than that. There was a guy next to me at the gym earlier today doing db press with 80s, but he was barely moving... a quarter rep somewhere in the middle of the movement. He probably thinks he does a full rom aside from the lockout to.

[absf]

That's like saying I'm following a strict diet. Except I have a cheat meal each night of pizza, burgers, wings.

If it helps, I can send a video of my ROM.