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    Anyone have acid reflux/indigestion?

    It gets even worse when I lift, I’m burping the entire time. I don’t drink soda, don’t eat fried foods often and rarely drink. Any suggestions?
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    Yes and it sucks I’ve cut out caffeine and alcohol to see if it helps and I still get it. It will keep me up all night after a strenuous workout. Don’t really want to depend on drugs, OTC or prescription.

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    I used to and believe I still do. Went to the ENT he checked my vocal chords cause i was complaining of hoarseness. He sent me to a specialist which performed an endoscopy on me. Found nothing major but still prescribed omeprazole.

    They say cut out caffeine and soda and alcohol but i think that’s bs cause it made no difference.

    I upped my broccoli kale spinach intake and that helped.
    Obviously spicy food with caffeine is a big no
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    You have LPR if your vocal cords are getting affected

    Look it up, it's pretty interesting. I have it right now
    Right. How do you deal with it? Anything that helps?

    Ginger honey lemon tea helps me
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    It's because you eat processed food.
    Eat leafy green vegetables after every meal.
    Eat potatoes, wild caught fish and vegetables only from now on and I guarantee you it will go away.

    No bread, juice, dairy products etc.
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    Probably it differs from person to person.

    Been there and done that but not anymore.

    What helped me once.

    1. Drinking milk

    2. Eating less at a time.

    3. Stop eating an hour before bed.

    4. Stop eating a specific food. (In my case, it's rice. I start eating bread instead.)


    I never used any antacids.

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    Originally Posted by Tornach View Post
    It's because you eat processed food.
    Eat leafy green vegetables after every meal.
    Eat potatoes, wild caught fish and vegetables only from now on and I guarantee you it will go away.

    No bread, juice, dairy products etc.
    I don’t drink juice only fruit, drink almond milk and my carbs are potatoes/rice and oats.

    I do use whey sometimes
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    The problem with LPR is that it's affected a lot by foods with acidity; tomatoes for example. I can't eat regular pizza anymore without having a coughing attack.

    LPR is actually a pretty interesting ailment; what happens it that you have a lower eso****eal sphincter at your stomach, and that tends to open up and close during digestion. This is how you typically get GERD; the problem is that with LPR, they call it silent reflux because you don't feel the acidity rising into your throat/vocal cords. Your eso****us has mechanisms to combat higher acidity before it really starts to erode, but your throat doesn't. Every drop of acidity is chaotic to your throat, which is the problem. It's super sensitive.

    Keep in mind, if you're at a high bodyfat that tends to exacerbate this condition so being lean is a big help.

    Now, I've had this for a long time, and what worked for me is as follows:

    1) Switch to bottled alkaline water. You can get this from Costco. It helps!
    2) I did a PSMF diet for two weeks or so - literally just eggs, casein protein, greek yogurt, and spinach. This combined with the alkaline water is basically a zero acidity diet. You'll have zero flare ups for two weeks.
    3) The most important thing to do is to sleep on an incline; you'll need to buy a wedge from Amazon or something and sleep at a 30-45 degree angle. What this does is that it elevates your body and makes it difficult for the acidity to get to your throat area. Furthermore if you sleep on your left side, the way your stomach is positioned makes it even more difficult for the acidity to come up. I have confirmed this is a significant factor in controlling LPR because I like to sleep on my stomach, and if I ever lie down and sleep on my stomach I immediately start coughing after a couple minutes.
    4) Don't eat less than 3 hours before bed.

    So the idea is - get to drinking alkaline water, get on a PSMF, and sleep on an incline. In two weeks you'll feel like you're cured. After those two weeks though, you need to continue to avoid foods with high acidity because they will cause flareups. I tested eating acidic food after my two week PSMF and I found that I could get through a slice of pizza with tomato sauce, but anything more caused me to get some severe coughing. So this will take some time.

    LPR isn't hard to fix because of how you have to eat/sleep, it's hard to fix because it takes time. Could be months.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    The most important thing to do is to sleep on an incline; you'll need to buy a wedge from Amazon or something and sleep at a 30-45 degree angle. What this does is that it elevates your body and makes it difficult for the acidity to get to your throat area. Furthermore if you sleep on your left side, the way your stomach is positioned makes it even more difficult for the acidity to come up. I have confirmed this is a significant factor in controlling LPR because I like to sleep on my stomach, and if I ever lie down and sleep on my stomach I immediately start coughing after a couple minutes.
    This. Sleeping on an incline is what cured my Gerd also. I won't give up spicy foods, though, as I love it too much and live on hot peppers. On a scale of spicy level 1-10 for Thai food, I pick 8 (would go 9, but try to keep it lowish to not go too overboard). If I'm at a hotel, I ask for 6 pillows. 3-4 to create the incline, then one pillow on each side so when I lean to either side, I don't go all the way on my stomach, which I love sleeping on. Since I cannot sleep on my side or my back, I have to "fake" laying on my stomach to trick my brain thinking that's what I'm doing, otherwise, I can't sleep.

    PS I also drink 4-5 cups of milk per day, which also helps, I believe.
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    I hAd it real bad long time ago and looking back it was cuz I was eating like chit - was eating more calories than I was burning (probably 500 or more excess per day)

    I get it now only if Overeat for a couple days straight. Skipping a couple meals fixes it right up.

    Are you gaining weight or eating extra calories?
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    I just started having it this year for the first time after being treated for a gut infection called H Pylori. Its actually a very common infection, and many people that have it dont even show symptoms.

    I had an endoscopy done and they found I also had a small hiatal hernia which impacts the valve that closes off the stomach contents from the lower eso****us.

    on top of what others said heres my suggestions:

    - Get a stool sample done to test for any gut infections

    - Get an endoscopy done

    - Possibly test for SIBO and fructose malabsorption (this is where I am at).
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    I had an endoscopy done when I was younger and there was a defect with the valve at the base of my eso****us. It doesn't close properly so gastric juices will come up. I take a generic of nexium every 2 days or so srs.

    If diet and environment modification doesn't help, talk to a gastroenterologist.
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    Sleeping on an incline made the best difference in my acid reflux, I never got it working out but early in the morning it was getting bad. I also refrain from eating anything heavy a few hours before I go to bed as well, I have almost no reflux anymore.
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    I've been diagnosed with eosinophilic eso****itis through multiple endoscopies which causes a host of digestive issues including terrible chronic heartburn. I'm still on omaprazole but as others have said, the thing that has more or less cured my years of daily heartburn has been sleeping on an incline. I sleep on this every night:

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    It has been a true miracle. I highly suggest getting this mattress if you're serious about curing your heartburn.
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    I did, lost a little weight, started eating healthier and no longer experience any.
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    Originally Posted by Samraiwise View Post
    Probably it differs from person to person.

    Been there and done that but not anymore.

    What helped me once.

    1. Drinking milk

    2. Eating less at a time.

    3. Stop eating an hour before bed.

    4. Stop eating a specific food. (In my case, it's rice. I start eating bread instead.)


    I never used any antacids.

    Good luck, brother.
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    I get it when I eat acidic foods or if I overeat especially carbs. I agree with sleeping at an incline helps also. If you need to take meds to control it, you probably should. If you try to live with it your entire life (many many years), it can be a cause of laryngeal cancer which has a very bad prognosis.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    The problem with LPR is that it's affected a lot by foods with acidity; tomatoes for example. I can't eat regular pizza anymore without having a coughing attack.

    LPR is actually a pretty interesting ailment; what happens it that you have a lower eso****eal sphincter at your stomach, and that tends to open up and close during digestion. This is how you typically get GERD; the problem is that with LPR, they call it silent reflux because you don't feel the acidity rising into your throat/vocal cords. Your eso****us has mechanisms to combat higher acidity before it really starts to erode, but your throat doesn't. Every drop of acidity is chaotic to your throat, which is the problem. It's super sensitive.

    Keep in mind, if you're at a high bodyfat that tends to exacerbate this condition so being lean is a big help.

    Now, I've had this for a long time, and what worked for me is as follows:

    1) Switch to bottled alkaline water. You can get this from Costco. It helps!
    2) I did a PSMF diet for two weeks or so - literally just eggs, casein protein, greek yogurt, and spinach. This combined with the alkaline water is basically a zero acidity diet. You'll have zero flare ups for two weeks.
    3) The most important thing to do is to sleep on an incline; you'll need to buy a wedge from Amazon or something and sleep at a 30-45 degree angle. What this does is that it elevates your body and makes it difficult for the acidity to get to your throat area. Furthermore if you sleep on your left side, the way your stomach is positioned makes it even more difficult for the acidity to come up. I have confirmed this is a significant factor in controlling LPR because I like to sleep on my stomach, and if I ever lie down and sleep on my stomach I immediately start coughing after a couple minutes.
    4) Don't eat less than 3 hours before bed.

    So the idea is - get to drinking alkaline water, get on a PSMF, and sleep on an incline. In two weeks you'll feel like you're cured. After those two weeks though, you need to continue to avoid foods with high acidity because they will cause flareups. I tested eating acidic food after my two week PSMF and I found that I could get through a slice of pizza with tomato sauce, but anything more caused me to get some severe coughing. So this will take some time.

    LPR isn't hard to fix because of how you have to eat/sleep, it's hard to fix because it takes time. Could be months.
    ^^^Super solid post and the advice in the thread that OP should actually follow.

    I had horrible acid for over a decade, so bad I would cough when I ate, cough all night, etc. Completely cured it following similar advice to above. I'd only add:

    -Get on a quality pro/prebiotic to fix up your gut bacteria
    -Instead of going cold turkey on a bunch of foods, consider individually eliminating likely triggers until you find what's causing it the most. I'd start with tomatoes/sauce, spicy/pepper, bread
    - DO NOT take any OTC anti-acids (nexium, prilosec, pepcid). They are terrible for you. Take tums/rolaids only if you absolutely must.
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    It could actually be low stomach acid. See if you can get a heidelberg test.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    The problem with LPR is that it's affected a lot by foods with acidity; tomatoes for example. I can't eat regular pizza anymore without having a coughing attack.

    LPR is actually a pretty interesting ailment; what happens it that you have a lower eso****eal sphincter at your stomach, and that tends to open up and close during digestion. This is how you typically get GERD; the problem is that with LPR, they call it silent reflux because you don't feel the acidity rising into your throat/vocal cords. Your eso****us has mechanisms to combat higher acidity before it really starts to erode, but your throat doesn't. Every drop of acidity is chaotic to your throat, which is the problem. It's super sensitive.

    Keep in mind, if you're at a high bodyfat that tends to exacerbate this condition so being lean is a big help.

    Now, I've had this for a long time, and what worked for me is as follows:

    1) Switch to bottled alkaline water. You can get this from Costco. It helps!
    2) I did a PSMF diet for two weeks or so - literally just eggs, casein protein, greek yogurt, and spinach. This combined with the alkaline water is basically a zero acidity diet. You'll have zero flare ups for two weeks.
    3) The most important thing to do is to sleep on an incline; you'll need to buy a wedge from Amazon or something and sleep at a 30-45 degree angle. What this does is that it elevates your body and makes it difficult for the acidity to get to your throat area. Furthermore if you sleep on your left side, the way your stomach is positioned makes it even more difficult for the acidity to come up. I have confirmed this is a significant factor in controlling LPR because I like to sleep on my stomach, and if I ever lie down and sleep on my stomach I immediately start coughing after a couple minutes.
    4) Don't eat less than 3 hours before bed.

    So the idea is - get to drinking alkaline water, get on a PSMF, and sleep on an incline. In two weeks you'll feel like you're cured. After those two weeks though, you need to continue to avoid foods with high acidity because they will cause flareups. I tested eating acidic food after my two week PSMF and I found that I could get through a slice of pizza with tomato sauce, but anything more caused me to get some severe coughing. So this will take some time.

    LPR isn't hard to fix because of how you have to eat/sleep, it's hard to fix because it takes time. Could be months.
    This. My ex GF suffer from this and sometimes it got so bad that had many scares if she was having a heartattack. She eventually had to get surgery to fix her eso****eal sphincter.


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    Originally Posted by Goat_187 View Post
    This. My ex GF suffer from this and sometimes it got so bad that had many scares if she was having a heartattack. She eventually had to get surgery to fix her eso****eal sphincter.


    They offered me this surgery when I was like 18. I declined cuz it seemed strange. There was apparently no guarantee. Pills work.

    Kratom also worked. Dead srs. It slows down your digestion. However, I wouldn't advise using kratom for reflux.
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    Originally Posted by chivasregal View Post
    Dude I’ve been on the misc for 15 years and this is one of, if not, the most helpful post ever. Wow. Thanks so much.
    Is alkaline water nasty? Can you taste the diff?
    Do the natural way that TugOfPeace suggested. Look up Amazing Grass on Amazon for digestive enzymes too. https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Grass.../dp/B010NBNZQG

    You want to get off of omeprazole since it can lead to kidney damage if you take it too long.

    I personally stop eating at minimum 6 hours before bed since beef takes the longest to digest in your stomach.
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    i had acid reflux and the doctors just blamed it on GERD after an endoscopy
    put me on PPIs which are fukking garbage if you are trying to have good digestion and gain mass

    found out that the issue was not having enough digestive enzymes for the amount of protein I was eating so I started supplementing pepsin and betaine hcl with every high protein meal and it disappeared
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    I read a book somewhat recently in which the author a doctor said he successfully treated his GERD patients by asking them to avoid all dairy products, add unrefined sea salt into the diet, and add natural liquorish as a supplement.
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    I had the same problem OP, you may have a hiatal hernia were basically part of your stomach is coming through your diaphragm and your stomach doesn't block the acid correctly. My hiatal hernia was probably caused by poor posture from gaming my whole childhood. Ever since I fixed my posture, acid reflux has pretty much gone away without changing anything I eat.
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    Originally Posted by ___ View Post
    to me drinking milk causes a lot of reflux, specially at night.
    I know what you mean.

    In my case, while milk can temporarily buffer stomach acid, my lactose intolerance causes another problem too, haha.

    My limit is one glass of milk and more than that...
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