Matches have pretty much died ³

[JustMoved24]

Aaand it’s over.

On to the next Bish, just brush your shoulders off plabyoi

[fishnbrah]

that didn't last long. what happened?

1 date, was still my longest relationship in years...

[imbored21]

feel like I can literally have a Harem of Black Girls and Landwhales if I wanted.

[Dirtymanjames]

How much should I text between dates? Assuming the dates are like 4-5 days apart? Just to set it up, or would you just throw out a couple texts here and there?

[skinnyfat88]

How much should I text between dates? Assuming the dates are like 4-5 days apart? Just to set it up, or would you just throw out a couple texts here and there?

Just to set it up.

If the woman decides to text in the meantime you can go with it just keep it light and save the good stuff for the date itself.

[imbored21]

How much should I text between dates? Assuming the dates are like 4-5 days apart? Just to set it up, or would you just throw out a couple texts here and there?

cringe dude. never text a woman outside of scheduling dates.

u: "Olive Garden Friday at 6pm?"
her: "sure"
u:"see you then"
her: "heart emoji"

anything more is bordering jestermaxing

[imbored21]

1 date, was still my longest relationship in years...

you look like a gigaChad. it's her loss. srs

[imbored21]

If it feels like work, she isn't interested. Move on. Don't give time wasters validation.

[randomuser12345]

Was talking to a girl 6 months ago. After scheduling a date she told me that she is sick and ghosted. Yesturday she hit me with: "hey, how you doing?". I told that i remember her, and how she ghosted me. She explained that: "Oh yea, i entered a relationship but now i'm free again so we can date."
I lol'd so f*cking hard. Why would she even told me that. Same thing as: "oh i hopped on another dick but you were close second. Ain't you happy with that boyo?". It is insane.
Told her to come over, she refused. F*ck off then.

[TheIronAsylum]

told yal dating and women in general are ruined its hilarious to me yal give them any attention or mind just lol

let the broken whore feminazis rot by themselves with their cats

[DustinTheHuss]

told yal dating and women in general are ruined its hilarious to me yal give them any attention or mind just lol

let the broken whore feminazis rot by themselves with their cats

It seems that both sexes are frustrated with dating apps. The only woman I know who liked them was in an open marriage and loved how she could get random hookups.

The only people I know who got married from a dating app are on the Misc. Otherwise it's mostly people meeting at work, which is very risky.

[Dirtymanjames]

Im definitely frustrated with online dating. Had many dates like 3-5 where the go absolutely well, sometimes end with sex, only for the girl to completely ghost.

I don’t get it, the interactions go well, the dates go well.

I get tons of matches so I’m obviously attractive physically enough.


I’d understand if the dates were awful and a girl decides to end it, but when things go well I just don’t understand it’s ****ing killing my confidence and makes me feel like utter chit.

[Luc1fer]

Im definitely frustrated with online dating. Had many dates like 3-5 where the go absolutely well, sometimes end with sex, only for the girl to completely ghost.

I don’t get it, the interactions go well, the dates go well.

I get tons of matches so I’m obviously attractive physically enough.


I’d understand if the dates were awful and a girl decides to end it, but when things go well I just don’t understand it’s ****ing killing my confidence and makes me feel like utter chit.

I mostly have trouble getting to the first date, then after that it’s a lock in. I never feel like the date went particularly well but the women usually say it was great (sometimes their best ever).

To be completely honest, I think my competition is just terrible. The stories I’ve heard of try-hard men, arrogant show offs, men selling their status etc to women. It’s just comical.

Maybe your dates don’t go as well as you think.

[Dirtymanjames]

I mostly have trouble getting to the first date, then after that it’s a lock in. I never feel like the date went particularly well but the women usually say it was great (sometimes their best ever).

To be completely honest, I think my competition is just terrible. The stories I’ve heard of try-hard men, arrogant show offs, men selling their status etc to women. It’s just comical.

Maybe your dates don’t go as well as you think.

Possibly but when the date usually ends with the girl either 1) making out with me or 2) ****ing me. i feel as though the date goes well.


I do wonder if maybe sex comes too fast? I usually have sex by date 2-4...?

There has only been once where it lasted beyond 3-5 date period, think we dated for like 4-5 months...

I just wish I knew where it goes wrong because it’s really ****ing frustrating, I think 99% of the time they just meet someone else.


What do you normally do for your dates?

[randomuser12345]

Yeah, have same trouble. Sometimes i can tell that date is going bad but usually it's just alright. Girls laughing at my jokes, not trying to end date fast but then we never meet again.
Keeping in mind that i can get girls to sleep with me on a 2 date acting the same way guess i just wasn't their type irl.
Too bad i have closing rate like 10\50, but i literally have no idea how to improve other than get leaner.

[Dirtymanjames]

Yeah, have same trouble. Sometimes i can tell that date is going bad but usually it's just alright. Girls laughing at my jokes, not trying to end date fast but then we never meet again.
Keeping in mind that i can get girls to sleep with me on a 2 date acting the same way guess i just wasn't their type irl.
Too bad i have closing rate like 10\50, but i literally have no idea how to improve other than get leaner.

I think I’ve been on online dates with like 10 girls at this point and I’ve slept with like 8/10, and the two I didn’t only was one date and it was clear during the date there wasn’t really a mutual connection.

So idk wtf I’m doing wrong

[Ninshark]

For all you gigachads to know - my experience as a 5/10, not aesthetic man online dating.

I started online dating in 2014 and so far I have only had convos with about 30 women. I have met 5 of them, only finding about 2 attractive enough to date. The two I dated, we had a very passionate relationship for about 1 yr each. They were both quality women, not sloots, marriage material, overall good. One was a 7-8 and the other was a 6/10. This was my record for my past 7 years, I had a 3rd gf after these 2 that was not online.

It's really hard, that's for sure, but it does work with some luck. Knowing that I can't compete with gigachads, I can only go for women that were willing to converse with me, who were less interested in looks, then I would build rapport and eventually meet up, have a date, and seal the deal. We would talk for 1-2 weeks online, sending paragraphs back and forth. This method is getting tougher and tougher when the population of women online is getting more and more skewed towards fast-paced, endless options, immediate gratification, low attention-span culture.

So this is how it is like for a non-chad. I can still get women, just not many, but decent quality. I could have gotten married to either, but in the end I realized I didn't love them enough. For all you gigachads, part of the reason why you can't find a good relationship online is due to the types of women that are available to you, they're in that culture I mentioned above that just doesn't favor a LTR. They don't know it themselves, but their behavior suggests they're not looking for a LTR. They would like one, but their judgment is so clouded by what's available to them. Same with you gigachads. We see posts here on the misc that you appear to want a LTR, but your judgment is so clouded by what you can get, and so you never achieve your goal. It's like walking on a road to a $billion, but on the way there, there's a lot of gold, and you get distracted and start picking up that gold. You start spending that gold and it leads you down a different path or prevents you from moving forward because you cannot see beyond the gold. All the sloots gigachads can land online are distractions to the real prize (same goes for women too).

It's just the natural progression of online dating, this was bound to happen. One thing I always questioned was why we have family structure, and I've been more leaning toward it being an outdated concept. Humans are naturally capitalistic and the natural order is a few alpha males with the best genes and a harem of women. The family structure is a social construct that is a great equalizer, like guns, that allows average men to have their own offspring. It produces a more productive society as a whole and raises children better overall, so I don't deny its benefits, but I will say that it's unnatural for humans so it's hard for humans to do (cheating, divorces, hookup over LTR). Entropy is a b*xch and progressive society is following that natural law, degenerating back to the alpha male harem (which translates to hookup culture with chads and several single mother households claiming child support from a few men). The result is going to be a bunch of poorly-raised children, possibly reminiscent of the black community. Not good, but we're headed there. It's inevitable.

[randomuser12345]

I think I’ve been on online dates with like 10 girls at this point and I’ve slept with like 8/10, and the two I didn’t only was one date and it was clear during the date there wasn’t really a mutual connection.

So idk wtf I’m doing wrong

with 8\10 score rate wtf are you b*tching about lol. Subtle bragging is so subtle

Ninshark
Actually if i wasnt pursuing sex asap but building raport and going for ltr prolly i could have score maybe 25\50. I think this is only way for non chad to lock on 7-8\10 girl, to be in the right place and time when she is tired of f*ckboys and sugar daddies.

Too bad i am Chad in my mind therefore acting like one.

[imbored21]

I think I’ve been on online dates with like 10 girls at this point and I’ve slept with like 8/10, and the two I didn’t only was one date and it was clear during the date there wasn’t really a mutual connection.

So idk wtf I’m doing wrong

Work on your dick game and stop dating sloots who have been with dozens of men. My girl has only been with 2 including me and she got obsessed after I banged her.


You have to make her feel pretty. Completely dominate her. Pull her hair, spank her, call her cumslut. Completely control her and act like you cannot control yourself around her. Add in some passion and she will be yours. It's cringey as hell but you can go back to "normal" starfish sex once she gets attached. If she isn't getting attached from sex, you are being too shy in bed or she's a megasloot who's been with tons of guys.

[imbored21]

Slid into random hot girls DM on IG, invited her to golf. She came, had fun. Texted me after and said she had a good time

Like 18 holes real golf lol? Go on normal dates likes food, movies, drinks, bowling. Don't try to be creative with it. Definitely don't take a girl golfing unless it's minigolf. 99% of women hate sports. You just made a girl who was clearly interested in you do way too much work. Girls are lazy as **** and just wanna have fun. The only balls she should be playing with are yours in her mouth.

[MediocreGains]

How do I get fwb off an app?

I want a 2-3 girl fwb roster

Just be upfront right away ?

Calm down. Try to get a rotation of one first.

Anyways, in my experience, a FWB situation was rarely if ever intentional. It's more of a side effect of the girl being more into you than you being into her, so she settles for being a FWB just to keep seeing you.

I think I’ve been on online dates with like 10 girls at this point and I’ve slept with like 8/10, and the two I didn’t only was one date and it was clear during the date there wasn’t really a mutual connection.

So idk wtf I’m doing wrong

Could be any number of things. Lack of charisma. Inadequate dick game. Neediness on your part. General slootiness on their part. Or there just being some other guy she prefers over you. For whatever reason, they're attracted enough to fuk you but don't like you enough to stick around.

To be fair, there was a point in my life when I had similar problems, though my success rate for getting laid at the time was also much lower as well.

For all you gigachads to know - my experience as a 5/10, not aesthetic man online dating.

I started online dating in 2014 and so far I have only had convos with about 30 women. I have met 5 of them, only finding about 2 attractive enough to date. The two I dated, we had a very passionate relationship for about 1 yr each. They were both quality women, not sloots, marriage material, overall good. One was a 7-8 and the other was a 6/10. This was my record for my past 7 years, I had a 3rd gf after these 2 that was not online.

It's really hard, that's for sure, but it does work with some luck. Knowing that I can't compete with gigachads, I can only go for women that were willing to converse with me, who were less interested in looks, then I would build rapport and eventually meet up, have a date, and seal the deal. We would talk for 1-2 weeks online, sending paragraphs back and forth. This method is getting tougher and tougher when the population of women online is getting more and more skewed towards fast-paced, endless options, immediate gratification, low attention-span culture.

I don't know if any of us are even "chads," let alone gigachads, but it's interesting to hear what it's like for an actually average looking guy.

[TallSaint]

Im definitely frustrated with online dating. Had many dates like 3-5 where the go absolutely well, sometimes end with sex, only for the girl to completely ghost.

I don’t get it, the interactions go well, the dates go well.

I get tons of matches so I’m obviously attractive physically enough.


I’d understand if the dates were awful and a girl decides to end it, but when things go well I just don’t understand it’s ****ing killing my confidence and makes me feel like utter chit.

Just got back on Bumble and Hinge today myself.

I'm so ready to experience the same lol.

[Dirtymanjames]

with 8\10 score rate wtf are you b*tching about lol. Subtle bragging is so subtle

Ninshark
Actually if i wasnt pursuing sex asap but building raport and going for ltr prolly i could have score maybe 25\50. I think this is only way for non chad to lock on 7-8\10 girl, to be in the right place and time when she is tired of f*ckboys and sugar daddies.

Too bad i am Chad in my mind therefore acting like one.

Because I don’t just want casual sex, I actually want to form a meaningful long term relationship. I’d rather be 1/10 if it meant turning that one into a meaningful LTR.

But I do think my dick game needs work, I do okay but I could be better, I also do think I get a bit more needy at the 5ish date mark.

I have had one relationship and it was like 3 months, some girl I met through work, so maybe I’m cool as **** the first few dates then my neediness comes out? Idk.

I also think living at home hinders me a bit too.

It’s not because I don’t have the means to move, I’m hustling saving to buy and I will probably need another 6-12 months before I can get the place I want so logistically speaking things kinda suck.

[Luc1fer]

Because I don’t just want casual sex, I actually want to form a meaningful long term relationship. I’d rather be 1/10 if it meant turning that one into a meaningful LTR.

But I do think my dick game needs work, I do okay but I could be better, I also do think I get a bit more needy at the 5ish date mark.

I have had one relationship and it was like 3 months, some girl I met through work, so maybe I’m cool as **** the first few dates then my neediness comes out? Idk.

I also think living at home hinders me a bit too.

It’s not because I don’t have the means to move, I’m hustling saving to buy and I will probably need another 6-12 months before I can get the place I want so logistically speaking things kinda suck.

Without knowing you, the most likely case is that women find you suitable for short term flings but not LTR/marriage. Are you the type of guy she’d be proud to introduce to her parents?

Thinking it’s a looks or dik game problem is dumb, but I expect no less from this forum. imbored is possibly the worst person to take advice from.

[Ninshark]

Too bad i am Chad in my mind therefore acting like one.

I don't blame you, just do whatever works for you. It would be foolish not to at least use some of your privilege, but know that if you ever want something more than what you usually get, you can't do it or get it by the same means as you're used to.

I don't know if any of us are even "chads," let alone gigachads, but it's interesting to hear what it's like for an actually average looking guy.

Ok, I just used gigachad because it's a funny word that seems to be trending in this thread. I just meant an aesthetic miscer with descent body, at least 5'10" and 6-7/10 face. I have none of those so sucks for me.

[Dirtymanjames]

Without knowing you, the most likely case is that women find you suitable for short term flings but not LTR/marriage. Are you the type of guy she’d be proud to introduce to her parents?

Thinking it’s a looks or dik game problem is dumb, but I expect no less from this forum. imbored is possibly the worst person to take advice from.

Yes, I would say so.

Good job, responsible, wise with my money, can speak well and am easy to get along with, good group of solid friends, good relationship with my own family. Etc

[MediocreGains]

Because I don’t just want casual sex, I actually want to form a meaningful long term relationship. I’d rather be 1/10 if it meant turning that one into a meaningful LTR.

But I do think my dick game needs work, I do okay but I could be better, I also do think I get a bit more needy at the 5ish date mark.

I have had one relationship and it was like 3 months, some girl I met through work, so maybe I’m cool as **** the first few dates then my neediness comes out? Idk.

I also think living at home hinders me a bit too.

It’s not because I don’t have the means to move, I’m hustling saving to buy and I will probably need another 6-12 months before I can get the place I want so logistically speaking things kinda suck.

Few things are a bigger turnoff to females than neediness.

Without knowing you, the most likely case is that women find you suitable for short term flings but not LTR/marriage. Are you the type of guy she’d be proud to introduce to her parents?

Thinking it’s a looks or dik game problem is dumb, but I expect no less from this forum. imbored is possibly the worst person to take advice from.

Depending on the context, I don't think it's completely dumb. If he doesn't have much appeal other than his looks, no reason for a girl to stick around if the sex isn't any good, so it probably exasperates the issue. But you're right in that the situation wouldn't be dependent on his dick game if women saw him as LTR material in the first place.

There have been a few times when a girl wasn't interested in seeing me again because of poor performance (because I was way too drunk and had whiskey dick). But it's hardly a deal breaker if the girl actually likes you and wasn't just looking to have fun.

[Luc1fer]

Depending on the context, I don't think it's completely dumb. If he doesn't have much appeal other than his looks, no reason for a girl to stick around if the sex isn't any good, so it probably exasperates the issue. But you're right in that the situation wouldn't be dependent on his dick game if women saw him as LTR material in the first place.

There have been a few times when a girl wasn't interested in seeing me again because of poor performance (because I was way too drunk and had whiskey dick). But it's hardly a deal breaker if the girl actually likes you and wasn't just looking to have fun.

If that's the issue, then the women aren't likely LTR potential in the first place.

Dirtymanjames, if everything you're claiming is true, then you're attracting and/or selecting the wrong type of women.

[Dirtymanjames]

Few things are a bigger turnoff to females than neediness.



Depending on the context, I don't think it's completely dumb. If he doesn't have much appeal other than his looks, no reason for a girl to stick around if the sex isn't any good, so it probably exasperates the issue. But you're right in that the situation wouldn't be dependent on his dick game if women saw him as LTR material in the first place.

There have been a few times when a girl wasn't interested in seeing me again because of poor performance (because I was way too drunk and had whiskey dick). But it's hardly a deal breaker if the girl actually likes you and wasn't just looking to have fun.

Agree on the neediness. I’m not actually sure in what way I’m needy though. I don’t really text a ton, for the most part just to setup dates, I banter pretty well, and it’s not like a profess my love... so I’m not sure where I’m phucking up.

I’ve definitely had bad sex a few times, but I’ve ****ed girls who have had multiple partners and want to bang again, so I’m definitely not bad either.

I will say I’m usually better the more comfortable and more rapport I’ve built with someone.

I think partially the problem is my last like 5 years of dating has been purely online dating. When I dated girls through work it was easy and I never had to worry about them cutting contact (obviously) but it was me who was ending things with them.

Maybe I just haven’t had time to build enough comfort and rapport?

[Dirtymanjames]

If that's the issue, then the women aren't likely LTR potential in the first place.

Dirtymanjames, if everything you're claiming is true, then you're attracting and/or selecting the wrong type of women.

Swear it is.

I will be honest, my last two girls I went out with either, Had only fans or was currently on onlyfans. They were quite hot though, so I guess I saw past it.

The first one I ended it because I would not accept them dating me while they had an only fans. She was super into me and i believe would have had a LTR with me.

Second one had an only fans...didn’t anymore. ****ed tons of guys too, but she was insanely hot. Straight up 10/10, so yeah bad choices. I knew she wasn’t going to be anything longer term.


You’re probably right, it’s partially my fault.

The girl I’ve been on a few dates it’s probably more wife material.

Doesn’t drink much, never done drugs. Good job. Similiar hobbies, athletic.

She’s pretty sweet and hasn’t given off any vibes like the last couple did.

So now that I reflect... maybe I’m just choosing poorly and because I want a LTR, I’m not weeding them out when I should?