I was this story on dateline. He told her he was 27 and a student at the local CC and they bet when he was a bouncer at a bar she was at. He also lied about his name so she had no way to check if he was a sex offender. She didn't know any of this stuff until they had already broken up. She contacted the University police like 20 times and the SLC police 5 times.
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06-28-2019, 06:40 AM #122
No they shouldnt.
Police have no duty to protect anyone
Did she get a restraining order?
What crime did he commit to involve the police? Harassment isnt a crime
Cops can only get emergency protective orders in domestic violence situations, all other restraining orders the individual is required to get.
You are responsible for your own well being
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06-28-2019, 06:41 AM #123
[quote]Rowland called a woman from a dating site to come pick him up. They went to a restaurant, drove by the capitol, went to her apartment so he could shower and then she dropped him off at a coffee shop, according to the timeline.
After she did, she recognized photos of Rowland in news reports and called the police.[quote]
Damn, he was already onto the next
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06-28-2019, 06:44 AM #124
Complaining to the police means literally zip if no crime has been committed
I guaranteed you it went like this
I need to complain about my ex BF
Cop "do you have a restraining order?
No
Cop "did he commit any crimes?
He is harassing me
Cop "how?"
Just calling me and stuff
Cop "we cant do anything until he commits a crime or you get a restraining order against him"
Girl then does nothing but continue to complain.
It sucks but cops cant just violate someones rights because someone else complains. An actual crime needs to occur or a restraining order must be in place
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06-28-2019, 06:46 AM #125
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06-28-2019, 06:52 AM #126
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06-28-2019, 06:52 AM #127
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06-28-2019, 06:57 AM #128
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06-28-2019, 07:01 AM #129
Did he commit a crime? Did he break any laws? Did she get a restraining order against him?
Cops cant just investigate without a crime having occurred
Supreme court ruled police have no duty to protect anyone
I guarantee you she was told at least 10 times to get a restraining order which she never bothered to do. Had she done it then the cops could have done something. But since she decided she just wanted to complain instead of doing anything that could really have helped her.... She was murdered
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06-28-2019, 07:04 AM #130
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06-28-2019, 07:10 AM #131
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06-28-2019, 07:12 AM #132
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06-28-2019, 07:13 AM #133
No no i literally know that. See being a cop for years i know exactly how this went as cops hear it daily from people. Harassment isnt a crime. People are always told go to court and get a restraining order but people dont want to do that because it takes several hours at court and costs money so they just continue to complain.
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06-28-2019, 07:16 AM #134
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06-28-2019, 07:22 AM #135
This is what I'm thinking ... the article just vaguely says that she contacted police many times, and that the guy "harassed her" (Harassed her how? Text messages? phone calls? Emails? Was there a threat?). It doesn't say what she told police, what she was complaining about, what specific behavior the guy was engaged in. If it wasn't criminal activity, then police cannot and should not get involved. Too many people get caught in the criminal justice system unnecessarily as it is.
Whenever these tragedies occur, people are quick to portray the police as incompetent or negligent because they want to blame somebody.
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06-28-2019, 07:25 AM #136
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06-28-2019, 07:27 AM #137
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06-28-2019, 07:28 AM #139
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/p...o-protect.html
You should really educate yourself before posting. Again, what threat did he make? The article simply says she complained he was harassing her. Harassment isnt a crime. Until he broke the law police cant run around and arrest someone or investigate just because she complained about him. Again, i can guarantee she was told to get a restraining order which she couldnt be bothered to do
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06-28-2019, 07:30 AM #140
He's actually, legally accurate, I went and did some research and the Court ruling literally states that Police and Government officials have no duty to protect someone. I believe the only people they are "required" to protect, is someone in custody.
I guess "To Protect and Serve" is a thing of the past.6'1 - 240lbs
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06-28-2019, 07:30 AM #141
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/p...o-protect.html
You posting one agencies motto or code of ethics means fukk all compared to the supreme court. Also again. What should the cops have done when no crime was committed? This isnt a tom cruise movie where police can see the future chief
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06-28-2019, 07:31 AM #142
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06-28-2019, 07:35 AM #143
BTW the lying about one's age happens. I know this one dude that is a super health guy. Looks great for his age, 48, but has told me he tells women he's 35 lol.
EDIT: dhawkeye1980 is spot on regarding police involvement.Last edited by sword_; 06-28-2019 at 07:41 AM.
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06-28-2019, 07:39 AM #144
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06-28-2019, 07:43 AM #145
I have another friend that is 48/49 and actually looks his age, but in a more mature silver fox fashion, and he typically dates younger women in their mid 30s, but having known him for nearly 10 years I've seen him date women well into their early 20s also *shrug* and he never lied about his age.
A hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
Because you had secret evidence, and documents /
On how they raped the continents, and it's the prominent /
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06-28-2019, 07:44 AM #146
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06-28-2019, 07:51 AM #148
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06-28-2019, 07:52 AM #149
I looked it up. Harassment can be a crime in some many states, I think its a misdemeanor in Utah, but the catch is that it has to be recorded or written. Basically just saying " Hey I'm being harassed" holds no weight, which I can somewhat understand because people file false claims all the time.
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06-28-2019, 08:03 AM #150
So what happened to Melvin Rowland? Did he kill himself or is he in prison?
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Because you had secret evidence, and documents /
On how they raped the continents, and it's the prominent /
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