lower back

[dale4321]

any brahs here that dont deadlift and only do hyperextensions for lower back training have THICC lower backs?

[Garage Rat]

Probably not.
Back raises can develop the lumbars/erectors to an extent but you probably can't put enough resistance on weight wise to get meaningful muscle development.

[PowerIsNowledge]

Agreed. Out of curiosity, do you deadlift?

[Ghawk21]

You know deadlifts aren't just for your lower back right? The Glutes and hammies are prime movers, its a complete posterior chain exercise. Hyper extensions don't come close to mimicking the benefits of a DL.

[PowerIsNowledge]

You know deadlifts aren't just for your lower back right? The Glutes and hammies are prime movers, its a complete posterior chain exercise. Hyper extensions don't come close to mimicking the benefits of a DL.

Agreed, deadlifts are arguably the best overall exorcise for your body, but the it's mainly for the hamstrings. Unless your legs are close together, in which case you'd be hitting a bit more quads.

[dale4321]

Agreed. Out of curiosity, do you deadlift?

yess

[dale4321]

Probably not.
Back raises can develop the lumbars/erectors to an extent but you probably can't put enough resistance on weight wise to get meaningful muscle development.

Basically I dont want to go heavy on the deadlifts anymore, would doing deadlifts at the end of my workout work just as good? I guess and I will do hyperextensions before I deadlift

[dale4321]

You know deadlifts aren't just for your lower back right? The Glutes and hammies are prime movers, its a complete posterior chain exercise. Hyper extensions don't come close to mimicking the benefits of a DL.

Yes I know and I would still train my hamsand glutes

[Ghawk21]

Basically I dont want to go heavy on the deadlifts anymore, would doing deadlifts at the end of my workout work just as good? I guess and I will do hyperextensions before I deadlift

So you want to save the hardest and most taxing exercise for the end of your work annnnd you're going to pre exhaust your lower back first?

[dale4321]

So you want to save the hardest and most taxing exercise for the end of your work annnnd you're going to pre exhaust your lower back first?

yeah not lifting super heavy on deadlifts anymore as I want a nice healthy spine for the rest of my life. Done a lot of research call me A ******* ALL U WANT D the risks increase the more repeated and large stresses placed on those discs, which can mean greater chance of injury and degeneration with time.
As they say in their conclusion "A high number of the world’s premier athletes demonstrated moderate to severe spine disease on MRI during the 2016 Summer Olympics, including moderate/severe degenerative disc changes with varying degrees of disc bulges and herniations.". To conclude very heavy lifting over time will somewhat compress the discs in our spine, would like to see some studies saying otherwise

[Ghawk21]

yeah not lifting super heavy on deadlifts anymore as I want a nice healthy spine for the rest of my life. Done a lot of research call me A ******* ALL U WANT D the risks increase the more repeated and large stresses placed on those discs, which can mean greater chance of injury and degeneration with time.
As they say in their conclusion "A high number of the world’s premier athletes demonstrated moderate to severe spine disease on MRI during the 2016 Summer Olympics, including moderate/severe degenerative disc changes with varying degrees of disc bulges and herniations.". To conclude very heavy lifting over time will somewhat compress the discs in our spine, would like to see some studies saying otherwise

Not calling you a ******* at all nor am i saying you need to do heavy deadlifts. I think you should have a deadlift movement in your routine and I think it should be done first, or at least early, though. Pre exhausting your back prior is just asking for an injury which is ironic considering that's what you're trying to avoid.

[Farley1324]

Guess OP didn't like the answers he got last time

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