When i was 18, yes. Today?... i'd probably die.
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06-12-2018, 05:29 PM #34
Easily. Maybe if they reduced the sleep to 1 hour I might feel challenged.
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06-12-2018, 05:35 PM #35
I'm 99% sure I could if I didn't die in the process. Srs. I have an extremely high pain tolerance & get tunnel vision obsessing over goals because I've been horribly traumatized & pushed to my physical & mental limits my whole life. I'm also 24 years old & am naturally very athletic. I actually wanted to join when I was a young teenager. That being said, I would never join because I'm pretty certain somebody who already has PTSD joining the Navy SEALS is like somebody who already has Parkinson's starting a boxing career. I have mad respect for the SEALS though.
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06-12-2018, 09:55 PM #37
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It is all mental true, but there is a chit ton of luck involved....
You could be a mentally disciplined master, but if you get sick or hurt you are basically done. This cuts out a good chunk of people that would have made it had the dice landed a different way.
I asked because OP asked "through hell week" which is much different than 3 weeks of buds and then Hell week.Finance Degree - USAF INTEL - IIFYM - Injured Crew - KTM XCW300 - Single Track Trail Rider - NRA Supporter - Shunned from MFC - Libertarian - Pragmatist
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06-12-2018, 10:11 PM #40
Lol @ some people here who aren't military and think they have a chance. In what world do you think purely meeting a run time even qualifies you? You boys ever pack marched (rucking I think the yanks call it)? Ever done sleep dep and food dep only to have to fking keep doing physical and strenuous ****? These dudes take months to prep up after already (usually) having a good base understanding of regular military ****.
^ It's also true you begin seeing and hearing ****. Staring into pitch black for 7-8 hours straight after already not sleeping makes you see some wild ****, and you're there guarding your team while they rest. It's fked all kinds of ways, but builds you none the less.
Seal training would in my honest opinion come down to 2 things, the ability to prepare well enough, which probably doesn't happen at any normal unit/regiment due to never having a proper routine and you've got to really want it, it seems romantic and cool af to be these guys but when you do some basic **** you might end up fking hating it and think 'my god this is boring and ****. why would I do this.'ayylmao
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06-12-2018, 11:15 PM #46
Pretty sure I could before I got out. Nothing about EFMB or old standard Ranger school before repass fuked it in 2012 for his political gain was hard for me in the least. I'm fairly sure the vast majority of my old unit would have zero trouble with hell week. There is far more to being a seal than being physically tough, I am sure.
I made it through SFAS (special forces assessment and selection) and was denied purely because of my age and was told I should try again after age 25. I never did. Had a friend recently denied for the EXACT same reason, except he was 19. He will be going back and is currently national guard.
You would be REALLY surprised how many people in the regular marines, army, navy, etc would be able to stand up to the physical trials of hell week. The real issue is in proving you can act on your feet and under pressure, be a team player, and have heart without attitude.
Fort Bragg and Fort Carson are full of hard ass soldiers who could stand up to the physical trials of SFAS/BUDS barring stupidity.**Pasham is gonna make it crew**
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06-13-2018, 12:12 AM #50
It isn't BUD/S or before BUDS that necessarily makes them a different breed. To be relevant in many SOF units your initial training is only a small part of the equation. For instance, the 2 year Q course for 18D (special forces medical sergeant) is the bare minimum for standards. When you hit your ODA there are a dozen classes and courses to attend. You hit the ground running. All SF soldiers are ASOT II and SFAUC qualified minimum.
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06-13-2018, 12:15 AM #51
I would break first day. I do not have that kind of loyalty to my country. I simply don't care enough about other people to put up with that chit. Mad respect to those who can. I ain't putting my life on the line for Chad's kids. Also, the physical reqs are quite intense as well especially on limited sleep and food. I can't function at the gym if I didn't eat and rest well day before. Can't imagine doing that iron man chit on like 800 cals of field rations and 2 hrs of sleep. Takes a special kind of person to do that stuff.
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06-13-2018, 12:54 AM #52
Pretty sure i could survive hell week. When it comes to physical tests and the mental anguish associated... I simply don't know how to quit. I'll crawl to the finish line if i have to. Whether or not they'd let me pass (admin drop) seal training in its entirety ... that I have no clue.
I have no doubt Hell Week is brutal chit. But... I've put myself through some really tough chit that is probably comparable if not worse."There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle." -Gym Jones
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06-13-2018, 01:17 AM #53
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06-13-2018, 01:44 AM #55
Having mountain biked from Canada to Mexico and hiked from Georgia to Maine... I can tell you that I've put myself through some physical/mental suffering that 99% of the population wouldn't even entertain. I'm way harder on myself than anyone has ever been to me. I do the chit I've done because I believe I'm weak.
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06-13-2018, 01:52 AM #56
Good thread.
To make it through hell week, you need to be able to reliably go to a "certain place" in your mind to exist when all the pain, fatigue, near death (controlled drowning, hypothermia, exposure, over exertion) and starvation kick in.... on top of being completely broken down mentally as a person to the most fundamental level by being shouted and abused the entire time.
That mental "place" and the ability to access it on command it is only realized by 1% of the population...if you can't access it, you WILL break during hell week, which is good. Because the chit tier 1 operators do, would break you even worse than hell week.
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