Ok, so I have been on a cut during about 3 months now from a bulk last year when I weighted 180 lbs. Now, when I weighted myself, I weight 110 lbs, and I am 5'9 tall. I know.. it sounds really bad. I don't know though if the scale works that well (I do not have a scale at home, so it was not my scale). But still, I have heard that you should be in a caloric deficit during cut and try to eat as much protein as possible. That is what I did. Now I know that I have to bulk and begin pretty much from the beginning, but still I can not increase my caloric intake so much each day because then it will get stored as fat. I exercise about 5 times a week, mostly strength training (depending on what week it is), 60-90 min each session. I do not calculate calories but during the cut I have always been hungry and can not eat till I'm full. I tend to avoid cheat meals so often I can and try to stay the as low as I can on calories. During my bulk I almost ate everything I saw and trained about 3 times a week (not junk food) and I then increased in about 10 kg in 4-5 months. I have really trouble knowing what to do and need serious help from experienced lifters. I have been lifting for about 4 years and I still have some strength left from my bulk. I want to grow bigger but don't gain any unnecessary fat and at the same time increase in strength. I right now follow a Push/Pull/Leg strength routine, doing it as often as I'm available. Can you guys PLEASE give my suggestion (anything is appreciated) on what the hell I should do in this scenario. My parents do not allow me to calculate my calories and they have been really afraid now after my cut as I have got really skinny compared to what I was before (more body fat). Should I just eat till I explode again, like I did during my bulk? Or what should I do?
Thanks in advance.
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10-19-2017, 11:08 AM #1
In URGENT help! (Not a beginner!)
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10-19-2017, 11:11 AM #2
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What do you currently squat/bench/deadlift?
Which PPL ? or just a custom one? Training on a pro written program can have a load of advantages
As for diet, you've just been treating it a bit to extremely.
Aim to gain 1kg a month. and do this for at least a year, probably a few years given your weight.5 day full body crew
FMH Crew, Sandbagging Mike Tuscherer Wannabee
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10-19-2017, 11:19 AM #3
Maxes right now are: squat is about 155-175 lbs 3x8. Bench is about 155 lbs 4x5 and Deadlift is about 265 lbs 4x5. Not tried my one rep max since I bulked. I follow a PPL from reddit which I believe is decent, but if you can suggest me other "pro" written programs it would be SO appreciated. I don't know how to eat if I want to gain 1kg a month though. This is my main problem. :/
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10-19-2017, 11:46 AM #4
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You said you don't know how to eat? Read the NUTRITION sticky...please. TO gain muscle you MUST eat at a surplus. First you must figure out your TDEE. Go to my sig below and check out Scoobyworkshop...tools...accurate calorie counter to get an idea. Get your daily Macros. Protein builds muscle. Protein builds muscle. Protein builds muscle. (HINT). Chillax, reset and get educated. Just eat already...
FIERCE 5
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/phul-workout (Thanks Kimm4)
http://nutritiondata.self.com/
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167871451
https://legionathletics.com/body-recomposition/
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10-19-2017, 11:50 AM #5
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10-19-2017, 03:15 PM #6
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^^^ Well...there is your problem. Go buy a food scale and learn how to weigh your food. It's a PITA but just do it. Download an app on your phone...lose it app or myfitnesspal, etc. and log it in. You can even scan foods on but I prefer to manually do a search and find the correct one if possible. This will at least give you a CLUE how to start this journey correctly. Spend some time reading those stickies. I did and now I have have a hint of a clue on a good day. Eat chicken breasts, brown rice, fish, all the veggies in the world (stay green). Sweet or reg potatoes. All the basic boring food to get your Nutrition down. (read that sticky). Wealth of information. Get this down , take current pics and some after 6 months and see how you progress. You will be amazed if you stick with it. Goood luck!
FIERCE 5
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/phul-workout (Thanks Kimm4)
http://nutritiondata.self.com/
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167871451
https://legionathletics.com/body-recomposition/
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10-19-2017, 09:49 PM #7
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10-20-2017, 03:45 AM #8
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10-20-2017, 06:53 AM #9
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10-20-2017, 06:57 AM #10
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10-20-2017, 07:04 AM #11
Simply eat more. I never counted my calories, just ate more and it worked just fine. Just start eating a bit more each meal and monitor your weight on the scale. If gaining too fast eat a bit less and vice versa, it takes a while to get used to but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy.
Working for 10 years even doesn't necessarily make you an intermediate. What do you squat bench and dead lift?Texas Method Log *https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173755621*
Program spreadsheet **https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14MPWVNPbfmfkuoTMDaGih3pbM2-KQHZuSjcJPuwVE9c/edit?usp=sharing**
FMH Crew Little Beast
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10-20-2017, 08:19 AM #12
These are my main lifts right now (I haven't done 1 rep maxes since my bulk):
Squat: 3x8 176 lbs / 80 kg
Bench 4x5 155 lbs / 70 kg
Deadlift: 4x5 265 lbs / 120 kg
And this is what my program from reddit looks like:
Pull - A
Sumo Deadlift - 2-4 sets of 2-8 reps
DB Row - 3-4 sets of 6-12 reps
Lat Pulldown - 4 sets alternating between wide/reverse/overhand/neutral grip (changes week to week)
DB Pullover - 3 sets 8-12 reps
Machine Low row - 3 sets 8-15 reps (optional)
Face Pulls - 4 sets 10-20 reps
Curls - 2 or 3 variations 6-9 total sets 6-20 reps
Push - A
Bench Press - 2-4 sets 2-10 reps
Seated/Standing DB Press - 3-4 sets 6-12 reps
Incline Machine Press - 3 sets 8-15 reps
Lateral/Front Raise Superset - 4 sets 10-20 reps (front raise optional and sometimes swapped for plate raise)
Triceps Pushdown/Seated Dip Machine - 3 sets 8-12 reps
Overhead Triceps Extension - 2 sets 10ish reps
Cable Flyes - 3 sets 12-20 reps
Legs - A
Back Squat - 3 sets 3-8 reps
Front Squat - 2 sets 8-12 reps (optional)
Romanian DB Deadlift - 4 sets 8-15 reps
Leg Curls - 3 sets 8-15 reps
Leg Extension - 3 sets 15-20 reps
Leg Press - 3-4 topsets 10-25 reps alternating between wide/close/shoulder width stances
Goblet Squat - 4 sets 5-8 reps (usually paused)
Pull - B
Pull Ups - set a rep goal and hit it in as few sets as possible
Shrugs - 4 sets 8-12 reps
T-Bar Row - 3 sets 6-10 reps
Barbell Row - 3 sets 6-10 reps
Lat Pulldown/Seated Row - 3 sets 8-12 reps
DB Pullover - 3 sets 8-12 reps
Face Pulls - 4 sets 10-20 reps
Curls - 2 or 3 variations 6-9 total sets 6-20 reps (same as above but I try to do something I didn't do earlier in the week)
Push - B
Overhead Press - 3-4 sets 4-8 reps
Push Press - 1-2 sets 4-8 reps (optional I just throw it in every now and then for fun)
Incline DB Press - 3 sets 6-12 reps
Chest Press Machine - 3 sets 8-15 reps
Lateral Raise - 4 sets 10-20 reps
Triceps Pushdown/Seated Dip Machine - 3 sets 8-12 reps
Overhead Triceps Extension - 2 sets 10ish reps
Cable Flyes - 3 sets 12-20 reps
Legs - B
Front Squat - 3-4 sets 5-8 reps
Romanian DB Deadlift - 4 sets 8-15 reps
Leg Curls - 3 sets 8-15 reps
Leg Extension - 3 sets 15-20 reps
Leg Press - 3-4 topsets 10-25 reps alternating between wide/close/shoulder width stances
Goblet Squat - 4 sets 5-8 reps (usually paused)
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10-20-2017, 08:32 AM #13
Something is not adding up. You are extremely underweight. And based on those stats you are a solid advanced lifter. Either those lifts are from when you were 180 or you have some god tier strength genetics because I doubt anyone is packing much muscle at 5'9 and 110lb.
Plus you lost 70lb in 3 months???
Either your scale is broken or .....Texas Method Log *https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173755621*
Program spreadsheet **https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14MPWVNPbfmfkuoTMDaGih3pbM2-KQHZuSjcJPuwVE9c/edit?usp=sharing**
FMH Crew Little Beast
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10-20-2017, 08:43 AM #14
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10-20-2017, 08:47 AM #15
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Got any pics you can send over if you're allowed??
FIERCE 5
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/phul-workout (Thanks Kimm4)
http://nutritiondata.self.com/
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167871451
https://legionathletics.com/body-recomposition/
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10-20-2017, 08:55 AM #16
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10-20-2017, 11:09 AM #17
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