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    Originally Posted by baize82 View Post
    from what I gather, the Rogue doesn't have as much whip, and the nicer coated Rogue bar is $355 plus $15 shipping...I'd rather pay a little more for the bar that everyone uses personally
    I think the tensile strength is like 3-4000 different. Does that make much of a difference on flex? No sarcasm actually wondering.
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    Maybe people weren't used to them, since probably 95% of people don't have one at their gym. Atleast I got an answer on Jake johns poor performance, he said he cut 40 pounds the week of the meet. He was gunna put up a nasty total too
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    Originally Posted by baize82 View Post
    from what I gather, the Rogue doesn't have as much whip, and the nicer coated Rogue bar is $355 plus $15 shipping...I'd rather pay a little more for the bar that everyone uses personally
    The gym I lift at has a red cerakote Rogue deadlift bar. I can confirm it has less whip to it than a Texas Deadlift Bar.
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    Originally Posted by JohnnyRingo350 View Post
    I think the tensile strength is like 3-4000 different. Does that make much of a difference on flex? No sarcasm actually wondering.
    If you ask Kabuki yes the tensile strength makes the bar stiffer. If you ask the rest of the metallurgists around the world no it does not. Bar diameter(thinner), length(longer) and how far out the plates are placed will increase whip.
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    Originally Posted by JohnnyRingo350 View Post
    I think the tensile strength is like 3-4000 different. Does that make much of a difference on flex? No sarcasm actually wondering.
    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    The gym I lift at has a red cerakote Rogue deadlift bar. I can confirm it has less whip to it than a Texas Deadlift Bar.
    just talked to Sarah Lewis...she had to pull on a Rogue DL bar recently instead of a Texas and said it was like pulling on a stiff bar and that she hated it lol

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    Originally Posted by JohnnyRingo350 View Post
    Idk about you guys but if I'm paying someone to coach me (and all of these so called experts charge a lot) and I get a IG story saying I was at a meet I'll get you program etc to you when I get back I'd be pissed.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    If you ask Kabuki yes the tensile strength makes the bar stiffer. If you ask the rest of the metallurgists around the world no it does not. Bar diameter(thinner), length(longer) and how far out the plates are placed will increase whip.
    Actually, Chris Duffin does a whole video talking about how tensile strength doesn't determine flex and that diameter, length, and things of that nature determine flex.

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    Originally Posted by baize82 View Post
    just talked to Sarah Lewis...she had to pull on a Rogue DL bar recently instead of a Texas and said it was like pulling on a stiff bar and that she hated it lol

    sample size of 1 and all that...but 500+ conventional hook grip puller fwiw
    I wouldn't say it's like pulling on a stiff bar as it still has more whip than a stiff bar. If you're use to pulling on a Texas Deadlift bar you'll definiteyl feel the difference though.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    If you ask Kabuki yes the tensile strength makes the bar stiffer. If you ask the rest of the metallurgists around the world no it does not. Bar diameter(thinner), length(longer) and how far out the plates are placed will increase whip.
    Originally Posted by baize82 View Post
    just talked to Sarah Lewis...she had to pull on a Rogue DL bar recently instead of a Texas and said it was like pulling on a stiff bar and that she hated it lol

    sample size of 1 and all that...but 500+ conventional hook grip puller fwiw
    Well the Texas And Ohio are the same length and diameter in a comparison I looked at. So it would come down to material or something? I pulled on an okie a long time ago and it felt stiffer but I was also weaker so idk.

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    Actually, Chris Duffin does a whole video talking about how tensile strength doesn't determine flex and that diameter, length, and things of that nature determine flex.

    The health,life, and available equipment definitely punched that in the face. I haven't even benched with my feet down in over a year do to not having anything resembling a comp bench. Also haven't back squatted in over a year. You still my front runner for when the run for natty elite starts. You just gotta let me do traps every workout......srs.......very srs
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    Originally Posted by JohnnyRingo350 View Post
    Well the Texas And Ohio are the same length and diameter in a comparison I looked at. So it would come down to material or something? I pulled on an okie a long time ago and it felt stiffer but I was also weaker so idk.
    I very much doubt they are exactly the same dimensions. The Texas has much thicker collars placing the plates put farther.
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    Originally Posted by arian11 View Post
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    Actually, Chris Duffin does a whole video talking about how tensile strength doesn't determine flex and that diameter, length, and things of that nature determine flex.

    Yes, in the video he mentions oscillation.. that's whip... Also having heard back from people taking to him about the squat bar he says his squat bar feel stiffer then the much thicker mastodon or just as stiff because of the "superior" tensile strength....
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    The health,life, and available equipment definitely punched that in the face. I haven't even benched with my feet down in over a year do to not having anything resembling a comp bench. Also haven't back squatted in over a year. You still my front runner for when the run for natty elite starts. You just gotta let me do traps every workout......srs.......very srs
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    So den who you getting mad about?

    Oh lol I super wasn't talking about myself. Did you not look at just about every "coaches" IG around wed-now. Everyone saying been at the open y'all will get you programs etc soon. I don't remember who it was but one even said something to the effect of "I know a lot of you guys are on meet week or competing this weekend. DM me and I'll try to hit y'all back."
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    holding back on joke
    No no let it rip!

    I’ll go to games in person cause I like the sport. But the Yotes have been straight up trash for a long while.
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    Originally Posted by JRMoore82 View Post
    No no let it rip!

    I’ll go to games in person cause I like the sport. But the Yotes have been straight up trash for a long while.
    I'm in no position to make too many jokes as a leafs fan lol.

    I'm most excited about the western teams left right now. Winnipeg and Vegas both have great things going for sure. Caps have been playing well too. Don't really care about the caps but was happy to see them get past the penguins for once.

    Still a bit sour about the officiating during the BOS/TOR series, but Toronto fukked themselves over hard the first two games. Another few years they might be good to get to the end I think. Average players age is like 15 ffs.
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    Originally Posted by NorthStrong View Post
    I'm in no position to make too many jokes as a leafs fan lol.

    I'm most excited about the western teams left right now. Winnipeg and Vegas both have great things going for sure. Caps have been playing well too. Don't really care about the caps but was happy to see them get past the penguins for once.

    Still a bit sour about the officiating during the BOS/TOR series, but Toronto fukked themselves over hard the first two games. Another few years they might be good to get to the end I think. Average players age is like 15 ffs.
    I lived in Vegas for a majority of my life. Left 5 years ago. Got on board all the Phoenix teams cause never had a “home team” so I grew up cowboys/stars/rangers/Lakers (lived in ft worth; Lakers just cause I loved magic) so I was a little pissed when Vegas finally got a pro team. More salt when they kept thwamping the Yotes.
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    Oh lol I super wasn't talking about myself. Did you not look at just about every "coaches" IG around wed-now. Everyone saying been at the open y'all will get you programs etc soon. I don't remember who it was but one even said something to the effect of "I know a lot of you guys are on meet week or competing this weekend. DM me and I'll try to hit y'all back."
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    Nope, didn't see any of that cuz I'm a gayboy who only follows USAPL/IPF lifters.
    Well that sounds just terrible.

    But in the interest of the IPF what's the total up to of big names lost? Haack, walford, McKenzie, Cornelius, etc
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    What happen Kim? She's still IPF last I knew.
    Arian will know way more then me, but I think she first had a problem with usapl being **** so she claimed she was going to compete at ipf worlds under the Bahamas or some island as she has duel citizen ship. Then the ipf said they weren't letting the islands compete so she said **** everybody and is doing drug tested uspa now.
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    I lived in Vegas for a majority of my life. Left 5 years ago. Got on board all the Phoenix teams cause never had a “home team” so I grew up cowboys/stars/rangers/Lakers (lived in ft worth; Lakers just cause I loved magic) so I was a little pissed when Vegas finally got a pro team. More salt when they kept thwamping the Yotes.
    It's not too late to become a Vegas fan lol. Lookin real good right now.
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